What RGR Plugin Features Do You Want?
The plugin developer is willing to work on the plugin for a little while longer but his time with the plugin is running out so if we're going to get any more updates, it needs to be soon and needs to be funded ASAP. To help me prioritize what should be added, please vote in the above poll (multi-voting is enabled) and also feel free to respond with any feedback.



Donate to Help Fund New Updates!
Getting updates added to the RGR Plugin is not cheap for me. I've invested around $25,000+ into the RGR Plugin over the course of about 4 years. The site is struggling pretty bad financially at the moment so if you'd like to help us get new features added then please consider donating! Every little bit helps, whether it be $10 or $100, donate whatever you can whenever you can. Not only will your donations help us get new features but you'll also receive lots of site benefits as well (such as access to more games, access to more systems, faster download speeds, etc).

If you're interested in donating toward the RGR Plugin, go here:
https://www.vizzed.com/boards/donations.php

If you can't afford to donate money, you can donate games as seen here:
https://www.vizzed.com/boards/thread.php?id=58552

Or if you can't donate anything, you can help out in other ways as seen here:
https://www.vizzed.com/boards/thread.php?id=78350



Breakdown of all the possible new features if we get enough donations

More Systems to support Video Recording
Most of the game systems on vizzed allow you to press a single button and record your gameplay but not every system support it. N64, Sega CD and a few others don't currently support it.

Ability to have 2 plugin instances at the same time
This would allow you to have 2 instances of the RGR Plugin open at the same time. Now it would require a fast computer to have 2 instances open at the same time but this would basically allow you and another user to see eachother's games. You'd be playing in your game in your instance and you'd be able to see their game in their instance. This would be great for if you want to play through a single player game with someone else, show someone how to do something or race each other to see who can beat the game the fastest in real time.

Add DOS Games
This would allow us to add those old PC games known as DOS games. So basically most PC games released between 1981 and 1995 (and some between 1995-2000) would be capable of being added to the site.

Upgraded Plugin Architecture for External System Loading
This Plugin architecture upgrade would allow the plugin to load systems on demand. This would allow the plugin to be only 1 MB and basically each time you play a system for the first time, that systems files would download when you go to play that game. The huge benefit to this would be that it'd allow us to update systems without having to need another plugin upgrade since it'd simply re-download the system when it gets updated.

More Systems
What additional systems would you like to see added?

Google Chrome Support
Google Chrome is slowly moving away from NPAPI plugins (and doesn't support it with the default settings) which is the type of plugin the RGR Plugin is. While it is possible to make the RGR Plugin work in Google Chrome as seen here, the upcoming September update to Google Chrome will eliminate NPAPI plugins completely. The solution is to have the plugin upgraded to PPAPI but that is a difficult upgrade to do which would be time consuming and would ultimately cost me a lot of money. In order to make this possible, I'd need at least $500 worth of donations.



There have been a lot of updates added to the plugin over the past 4+ months and that's all thanks to those who helped out by donating to the site! Thank you

I'm in for upgrading the plugin architecture. I think it's the best update it could have, seeing how many versions of the plugin have been launched since Tom said he would be working on it last January, this new architecture will make things a lot easier.

As a Google Chrome user, I'm also in for supporting this browser. Sometimes I've used Firefox too, but the design is too zoomed in compared to Chrome. I can still go with Firefox to play RGR games and Chrome only to post, but if there's the slightest chance I can keep using Chrome for both I'll vouch for it.

EX Palen : Yeah the new plugin architecture not only would make it so that users would no longer need to upgrade their plugin but it'd also decrease the time it'd take to add new features and systems to the plugin. It'd also greatly decrease the chances of new problems being introduced (which tends to happen with each new release).

The Google Chrome support is a big deal, especially since 46% of the site's viewers use Google Chrome and only 13% use Firefox. Out of all the things I listed, the Google Chrome support is the highest priority and is one that I'd really like to get the funding for because I fear we're losing a lot of traffic due to our lack of Google Chrome support.

   Google Chrome support is the first thing I'd like to see happen. Like you mentioned, with how many people use Chrome to access Vizzed, it's very important that Chome works with the RGR plugin. But another thing that came up in what I believe was a Mother 3 thread was the ability to turn off Frame skipping. I can't be sure which systems have this feature turned on, but to me it seems that at least VBA games run at a lower framerate than Mednafen. Games like Pokémon may not really need this, but something that requires rythme could use those extra frames. Plus, emulators running the game slower than they should just because of the emulator settings in my opinion, just shouldn't happen.

patar4097 : You might actually be able to make that adjustment yourself.

On your computer, go to this directory:
C:ProgramDataVizzedVizzedRgrPluginUser-#VBA
(be sure to replace # with your vizzed user id number)

From there, open up the vba-over.ini file (be sure you don't have the plugin open).

Directly underneath the [preferences] line, place this line in:
frameSkip=0

Let me know if that helped.

Here I am again, saying that DOS games would be a good addition to the RGR.

Davideo7 : For some reason, every time I open up the VBA emulator to see if it works, it will not. So, I go back to see if I put the FrameSkip=0 line, but it's now gone, even though I've saved it, and gone back to the .ini to see if it was just not saving. It seems that it's getting erased every time I open the plugin. Thinking again, I guess for me it isn't that big of a deal, because Mednafen is just a lot better for me, but still odd.

patar4097 : Ok try this instead:

Open up the vba.ini file and find the line that says frameSkip=2 (it's line 16 for me) and change that 2 to 0.

Did that work?

Davideo7 : Yup, I tried that out, and it's working fine now. Thanks! I went into that file as well, just didn't look very well, I guess, because I didn't see the frameskip line at first.

Was wondering if it would be possible or practical to work windows 95-98 games into the emulator? They arent DOS games. Example would be Star Trek Armada

Davideo7 : Perhaps a Volume Button to turn the games sound down without having to turn down the computer volume I streamed Pokémon Emerald today and no one could hear my voice no matter how low I put it so a Volume controller would be nice so people can hear my voice when I stream.

I'd like to see the 3DO be added if that's at all possible. There's a bunch of weird games available for it (the 90s were a weird time - CD-ROMs go mainstream and suddenly every game company's a filmmaker). But if you're considering adding DOS games I'd like you to do that first.

I want DosBox added and maybe older pc games availible for download like Elderscrolls marrowind 

I want that Vizzed add DOS games and more system games.

I'd like to see N64 games support video recording more than anything else at this point. I guess I'd also like to see N64 DD games be added to the RGR if that's at all possible.

I kinda want a rewind function.

I was thinking that it would be cool to have Gamecube games. Would that be too recent for the Retro Game Room? Just thought it was worth mentioning.

Here are the additions that I really feel like are needed.

Updated Support for N64 emulation AS WELL AS Netplay. Tons of users want to play these games via netplay, but are basically unable to do so. Updating the emulators used for N64 would really help this issue.

As a quick side note, GBA netplay would be a huge hit as well.

The second would be Google Chrome support. Being as it's one of the most popular web browsers used, I think this is very important. I personally don't want to have to use a separate browser just to play games on Vizzed.

Google Chrome support because I was pretty pissed at Google disabling NPAPI. I mean, seriously. Java runs on NPAPI.


Also, Gamecube and DS pl0x Nah JK. I know that's not gonna happen and I know why. But Vectrex would be kinda cool.
And if you can find a way to add e-Reader (GBA) ROMs, that would be cool.
Plus those 2 instances and More recording things sound cool, I can finally stop using Bandicam for recording N64 games.

I think it would be cool if you could add PSP, N64DD and 3DO games to the RGR.

Jordanv78 : As Jordan said, please add GBA Netplay support. I've always wanted to pokemon battle people on vizzed. This feature would be a dream come true.

Davideo7 : How about Playstation 2 i mean the playstattion 2 IS close to Dreamcast so maybe after a couple of months or so you can consider it?

I think your priority should be upgrading the plugin structure because of Google Chrome stuff XP. Since I use FireFox it's not that big of a problem for me, but still, lots of users use Chrome.

After that, DOS please XP. I just really want DOS to be added, since I just really want to play random old PC games. I'm weird .

Then after that, more Netplay support would be great.

Davideo7 : How about making N64 games compatable with Mednafen?

Yes!! DOS games would be awesome. I spent most of my childhood playing Jazz Jackrabbit. Now I really wish I could donate...

patar4097 : I could adjust a setting to make it so that it does that by default but then I'm not sure if that would have a negative effect for some users. Users with slower computers would probably need to have the frame skip on I'd imagine.

Darthdaishi : I'm not sure if there is even an open source emulator out there for windows 95/98 games that I could implement with the RGR Plugin. I think the only solution for PC games would be MS-DOS games.

18mlivingston : You actually can currently adjust your volume using your computer's 'Volume Mixer'. If you don't know how to do that, go ahead and google it.

BiggerJ : The currently plugin might already be compatible with 3DO games and if it is, I do want to get them added in the near future.

gamerforlifeforever2 : I'm not sure if there are any good open source N64DD emulators out there.

MarioMasta : We already have a rewind function for mednafen games. You can read more about it here: https://www.vizzed.com/boards/thread.php?id=88264

Link284 : Too many legal and technical issues with GameCube.

Jordanv78 : I think N64 on a Kaillera server is the only netplay option available available out there for multiplayer N64 games. I think it's more of an issue with the actual server software rather than the emulator.

According to Tom, GBA netplay isn't possible, or at least not for a budget I'd ever be able to afford unfortunately.

Google Chrome support is my highest priority at the moment. Hopefully it'll be added in a month or at very least, before September which is when NPAPI plugin support will be removed completely. Around 2/3 of the site users that use a computer use Google Chrome so it's pretty important that we get this added. I just hope Tom doesn't have any issues adding the support and I also hope it doesn't cost $1000s because I'm like dirt poor now days and I already owe him like $1000+ lol.

RetroGameNinja : Yeah it was a very stupid move by Google. Vectrex is a possibility with the current plugin version.

NintendoTails : Refer to my above responses for N64DD and 3DO support. As for PSP, too many legal and technical issues.

VizzedGuy111 : Way to many legal and technical issues with PS2. One of the reasons why PS1 games aren't available to the public is for legal reasons.

ZeroTails : Yeap, Google Chrome is the highest priority. Refer to what I said to Jordanv78.

vizzy900 : N64 mednafen support isn't up to me, that's up to the developer of mednafen.

Please do the Chrome update. I do think it would hurt the site to not do it, But besides that, I don't really care for Firefox.  I'm using it now because I figured I might have to get used to it. But this site is the only reason I use it, for everything else I still use Chrome. So now I constantly have 2 browsers open it seems.   And I'd play Vectrex games too, haven't seen one of those in 30 years probably. I don't know how many other people even know what it is though. lol That guy that has that one site always plays them. Classic Game Room I think?

Davideo7 : Oh, well it doesn't really matter too much I suppose, there's only a few N64DD games anyway. The only reason I was asking about that one was because of F-Zero X Expansion Kit. It has a track editor feature where you can create your own tracks.

I would like to add a note to the Google Chrome Support thingy.

Lately, when surfing around the board, I've received a warning that Silverlight (was it Silverlight?) will soon be unsupported as well. Has someone addressed/noticed this before? And also, would Chrome be useful at all if Silverlight really is unsupported in the near future?

I have a question that could possibly lead to a suggestion for update: As of now, are Dreamcast/PS games supposed to work with more than one controller? I tried to play a Dreamcast game, I believe, with the 360 controller but it only seemed to be working via my USB 2.0 port, but it works just fine on the 3.0 ports via Steam. Is this some glitch with the emulator or something else? If it deals with the emulator, I'd recommend upgrading to support more than one controller for the same instance of the plugin. 

As for the Chrome update, it does use a ton of RAM, but I like Chrome. Considering moving to FireFox for this site, though. Won't take too long to get used to again, though I do recall FireFox having numerous glitches with Adobe Flash Player, which is why I switched in the first place. But not everyone would be willing to switch browsers so the Chrome support will be a big deal. May not be in the time frame, but might be able to donate again next semester. Thanks for the continuous work on this! 

Davideo7 : I voted fore more consoles. Some ideas I had was to include Gamecube games (since now we have the Dreamcast), N64DD games, and (while it sort of isn't a console) add the ability to have that mobile phone thing "plugged" into the GBC emulator to allow certain things like the Celebi event in Pokémon Crystal. 

Eesh. Reading how much upgrading to PPAPI may cost tears at me, since I'm unable to chip anything in. I'm still thinking  that should be your go to. After that I'd say upgraded plugin support. As much as I'd like to see new systems and video recording for more systems, I see these two as a mite more important overall. The second would especially be nice because it would save you and tom plenty of time, I think.

Davideo7 : I doubt you will lose traffic. I am trying to get my friends to join the site
since this is the only trusted site I can find with a good emulator and so many things to do. I have been on this site since I was 10 but I didn't have an account back then. I'm sure you will get more people some time in the future. If you want I can try to get people on Deviant Art  to join Vizzed too.

1.) I would love to see the Nintendo 64 Become more successful on Net play and single player, I notice many users who first join they attempt the Net play for N64 at first then realizes it does not work for everyone.

2,) If possible allow a larger screen for the games or full screen modes if possible.


 

I know this isn't strictly the place for this sort of thing but it was suggested that someone tell you about this ongoing bug.

Edit: It wouldn't let me add a link so here's the URL: https://www.vizzed.com/boards/thread.php?id=87390

Edit2: Also, the 7-11-15 double Viz donation deal doesn't seem to be working - https://www.vizzed.com/boards/thread.php?id=88584

What about adding an advanced menu for all systems like super Nintendo's with changeable save states, speed adjustability.
That chrome support is always good, and what about being able to actually download a game and being able to start and play it offline.

How come now on the voting system both MS DOS and Upgraded Plugin Architecture for External System Loading  are now disabled are they getting added soon.

It is always wise to have a well balanced table before one start making the card pyramid...

i think we could add pc games to the list from the dos era to the early 2000's era

Davideo7 : I've been using my DeSmuME DS emulator for I'd say, maybe about half a year, and I like it. I hope that it can be put on to Vizzed sometime. Oh, by the way, what is "NPAPI"?

Hi David,

I was thinking that it would be cool to have Amiga, Amstrad, Atari 8-bit, DOS, ScummVM and Spectrum games.

Bondorello

One thing I would really like to see coming out of this new update is support for PlayStation 2 games. I believe it would do a decent job of further expanding the library of retro games available to play. Considering that you are already testing consoles as recent as the Dreamcast, there's no better time than now to introduce this new feature with the quick passage of time.

I'd like C64 to work again before anything else is added....

Edit:
Add CCS64 as an emulator for C64 instead of using MESS.

Brain-Splattered : We already have N64 games. 3DO is also being added (currently 1 is available)

I voted for the Dos game addition, because I think that would be an amazing idea, old school Sierra games (Quest for Glory) and other such masterpieces, oh the idea just makes me happy. The other thing I voted is the Google Chrome support, that would be really cool I use Chrome as my main thing, but if it's too hard I am fine with firefox. And finally the architecture that just sounds amazing! I almost forgot I also voted for other systems as well, I would love to see Amiga, Jaguar CD, as well as C64 those three systems would be awesome! It's pretty much in order of how I view these as importance as well.

Ferdinand : I agree that it would hurt the site to not get Google Chrome support added back into the RGR Plugin which is why I've told Tom that it is very high priority. He expects to have an RGR Plugin release with Google Chrome support available around July 31st.


gamerforlifeforever2 : I think MESS within the RGR Plugin might actually support just 1 N64DD so I could eventually look into having that game added lol. It'd only be 1 game but maybe it'd be enough to give everyone the idea of what the N64DD was all about.


EX Palen : Vizzed doesn't require Silverlight thankfully but I'm surprised that Chrome is dropping support for that because a lot of sites use it including Amazon Instant Video and I think even Netflix.


danielbelitch : That might be a glitch with the emulator. Dreamcast at the moment should support 2-4 players but PlayStation I don't think currently does. I've sent Tom an email asking him about local multiplayer support for mednafen.


skyboy3004 : Thanks


trixz2007 : Yeah N64 netplay has been tricky ever since we got netplay added to the site. I wish there was ways to get our N64 Kaillera server to run better.

Full screen support is currently available in the plugin for Mednafen, MESS and MAME. Press ALT+Enter to go into full screen and ALT+Enter to get out of full screen.


BiggerJ : As you probably know by now, the Double Donation glitch was fixed. As for the Game Boy and Game Boy Color issue, which emulator are you playing the games with? Are you playing them with the RGR Plugin or with the Java emulators?


Halolimnic : I could look into that.


TaySwift13 : NPAPI stands for "Netscape Plugin Application Programming Interface".


Bondorello : Amiga, Amstrad, Atari 8-bit and Spectrum games are most likely already compatible with the RGR Plugin, right now it's just a matter of finding the time to add them and finding enough staff to help test them.


happygoluckymoi : Too many legal and technical issues with PS2 games.


Vanelan : I recently fixed the C64 games.

I would like the following systems to be added to the Vizzed Retro Game Room plugin system lineup:
 Sony PlayStation
 Sony PlayStation 2
 Nintendo GameCube
 Nintendo DS
 Nintendo Wii
 Apple iOS (iPhone 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, iPad 1, iPad 2, iPad Air, iPad Mini, iPad Mini with Retina display, iPod 1, 2, 3, 4, iPod Nano)
 Microsoft Xbox
 Microsoft Xbox 360 (if possible)
 Sega Dreamcast games (without having to buy the Beta Test Ticket)
 Microsoft MS-DOS

I am sorry but im am going through a little bit of a money drought so I will not be able to donate but im hoping what comes next for the Vizzed RGR plugin will help this site evolve.

Thank you, davideo7, for letting me relive all of my childhood memories with these amazing consoles you have been able to emulate.
Your friend,
Mason/MajoraSkyward67

I think full screen options and volume controls per the game window would be swell

Would Amiga be at all possible and the Atari ST both brilliant systems.

The VRU for Hey You Pikachu to be used by using the computer's microphone

MajoraSkyward67 : Sadly as said before, most of those Systems aren't retro enough and could be a risk to have on vizzed...

Davideo7 : Oh? I'll have to try it again sometime.
I still would like another emulator for it though. There are a lot of system specific issues that make using c64 a bit difficult for the average user... unless those were fixed too. (Ie: swapping controller ports)

Davideo7 : I was using the RGR Plugin. I can't test the bug any more because I bought the V-Machine CD.

MajoraSkyward67 :
1. We have this one.
2. Possible, but alot of people wouldn't be able to run this one and legal reasons.
3. Read "2"
4. Legal reasons
5. Read "2"
6. Why even? Also legal reasons.
7. Read "2"
8. Nope. Not possible.
9. Probably soon.
10. David said that this is probably going to happen.

dragonslayer444 : Probably. David said Amiga might be possible, and ST is probably possible.

Davideo7 : Oh, ok.

Davideo7 : Able to use Opera, this is the only browser that runs (and is able to use Unity) That I can use on My computer

fireork12 : Many users have been able to get Opera to work with the plugin.

Davideo7 : It's been mentioned before, but if you are going to Add DOS, it would be cool to Add Amiga as well. Lots of great games on that Platform. Super Popular with European gamers.

I am thinking as well it would be good to see the other micro computers added on here as well, Amstrad, Spectrum and the Sam Coupe.

Davideo7 :

I will be more than Happy to test out for you Amiga, Amastrad and Spectrum if you are looking to add those in the near future.

Obviously Google Chrome support. I hate downloading a whole nother browser just for a plugin to work.

I think DOS games would also be awesome. I installed DOSbox awhile ago to play some games but I just can't figure out how to work it. Because I'm super lazy and don't want to fix it myself, it would be awesome if we had DOS games on this website.

Davideo7 : Your welcome

I'd like to be able to have a search option for the layout store. That way, I could just type in the layout I'm looking for and hopefully have it pop up instead of having to scroll through 60+ pages of layouts hoping I find what I like. That'd be pretty sweet.

I know you said google chrome is the highest priority but i'd still like to vote for chrome. It would also be cool if the plugin supported netplay for all of the game boy systems.

TheFadedWarrior :

If you want to try DOS games yourself download a frontend for DOS BOX call D-FEND Reloaded it will help you out big time.

dragonslayer444 : Thanks! I'll have to try it out.

bloodyb : Agreed. When are we going to get GBA netplay like VBA-Link? I would absolutely love some multiplayer Nightmare in Dreamland.

Davideo7 : Thanks. Also thought you should know Dreamcast doesn't seem to be working for me at all at the moment, but perhaps I gave up too easily. Led me to believe that Chrome was already rejecting the plugin but GBA seems to be working fine. But this brings up a couple more questions: Should browsers change the plugin data at all? That is, if I start a new file in a GBA game now and then have to switch to using FireFox later, will my save states still be available or only in Chrome? Also, will the update to fix Chrome compatibility have any changes on plugin data? Figured I'd ask now before getting any farther in my replay of Fire Emblem. Thanks! 

TheFadedWarrior :

It has been said before that GBA netplay will not be possible something to do with the plugin and it will be too exspensive as well.

dragonslayer444 : I didn't see that about the gba netplay. If i did i wouldn't have brought it up, sorry. 

Hi. I voted for other systems. To specify, DS emulation and, if not too troubling, Gamecube emulation. The Dreamcast is (maybe) in the same league as the Gamecube, so it might be able to work with the same specifications needed for Dreamcast emulation.

Sorry for bumping this thread, but even though you said Vizzed doesn't use Silverlight, I just had a warning from Chrome saying that it indeed uses Silverlight, and believe it or not, it will soon be unsupported.

If you say Vizzed doesn't use it, then I don't know why Chrome warns me of this. Also, this warning appears very seldomly, I think it's only the second or third time in the whole month that the warning pops up, unlike when playing a game that it always pops out a warning about the RGR plugin being unsupported soon.

Davideo7 : Since Window's 10 was recently released perhaps support of the plugin for Microsoft Edge could be something?

I think this goes here what about possibly getting it to work with edge microsoft's new browser that comes with windows 10

Just got reminded of the optional audio/video chat that seemingly is in beta when creating a netplay session.

Any chances this might become complete in the near future, even if it's still optional?

Davideo7 : Why not Add Roblox to the vizzed website ,Minecraft got added to the vizzed website ,so why not Roblox?

I'd like to have the ability to open two games at once, because sometimes I have friends who want to do a netplay while I am in the middle of a game, and I don't like to wait or make other people wait.

I voted for more systems and dosbox:

The system:
D.S. From what I understand (which is most likely wrong) is that D.S. Games are small so we won't need to much space on the servers to support them!
 
Why dosbox: Because there good games!

Really want this plugin chrome supported. And I mean really! also when are gonna have a plugin that you can use your mouse for arcade shooters? I mean won't it be more easier than your keyboard? I'm giving a good example and idea here! And I mean it! So anyone agreeing with me?

i would love to see gameshark feature implemented with systems that uses it like ps1 and gba

I voted for more systems and 2 plugin instances at once. As for the systems I was thinking possibly DS games. I know they are still available in stores but a lot are being faded out. And it won't be long until the new systems will no longer support DS compatibility. I know emulators exist for DS games so it's possible to do. Plus there are some great hack versions of games that would be amazing to have easier access to. As I know some people have problems downloading these game but through Vizzed it would be available without prior download.

I voted for others.I want GBA net play if you can please help.I need it to complete some games.I also voted for 2 plug in instances.Thank you for trying.

I am still hoping for DOS games somewhere down the road. My budget is really, really tight right now, but it looks like things will get better in another couple of months - and when that happens I am DEFINITELY donating. I love this site so much.

DOS games work for me!

Also, other consoles like DS, Gamecube (for an item which costs Viz) or 3DO would definitely work out!