What I don't get is if games are suppose to start out kind of hard then get progressively get harder why was Zelda 2 like F$%^ YOU right out the Frigging  gate. I've never actually beaten this game because I have rage quit this game so much. Okay let's look back on the original Legend Of Zelda. For me that one wasn't difficult until dungeon number 5. But that was just me. Zelda 2 The adventure of Link got hard before I even entered the third F#$%^&* Dungeon. For Zelda 1 the game was pretty strait forward for the most part but Zelda 2 if you can manage to beat the second dungeon good luck cause there is no hint on where the hammer is hidden which really pisses me off. Let's do another comparison for example the final boss. In the original it was not that hard if you have the silver arrows, red armor, and the magical sword. But in Zelda 2 no matter what your levels are you will still have a hard time. (For: example even if your stats are Life-8 Magic-8 Attack-8 then the final boss is still hard as crap. So all I'm trying to say is Zelda 2 is way to hard and here in this thread you can express you opinion on it.

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First, please don't swear on the forums, this is a friendly site and we have a rule, "No swearing".

Second, the game was very hard indeed. I made it to the Great Palace, the final dungeon in the game, and I gave up because of how hard it is jumping over the lava pits before the palace. Lava pits are hell, they kill you instantly, and they sink you in. That is why I gave up the game about at least 4 months ago.

The truth is that Zelda II isn't hard - it's cheap. It throws unfair punches and random enemy patterns at you constantly. It simply isn't fun.

For me, the difficulty in Zelda II was fake. You have unexpected annoyances EVERYWHERE.

I honestly don't see the problem. The game is hard. Oh no.

Generally the answer is to get better. The game doesn't have glitches, and most of the time the place you need to go next is close enough by you can find it with a little exploration.

The game is definitely difficult, 1 hit falls are exactly what we need in the future! (And I'm almost serious!)

Leggy pretty much took what I was going to say

I'm not saying anything bad against your age generation, but the moment I read your post, I looked at your age and understood. What I have seen is that the kids in the current younger generation grew up on modern games that can't touch a lot of the retro games in difficulty. Modern games are mostly spoon feeding you with checkpoint after checkpoint, the ability to save at any given moment, or ridiculously easy maneuvering. A lot of the retro games like this one weren't made to hold your hand. It was made to challenge you. Problem is, a lot of people who are used to modern games just immediately say the game sucks because they can't beat it.

I will admit, that there is a big flaw in this game, and that is that it gives you almost no direction as to where you are supposed to go, find things, or do. I'll give you that. They failed in the development aspect. But that is all I find difficult about this, and it has nothing to do with the gameplay difficulty. I find this game pretty easy compared to about 30-40% of the retro games. 

Look at a game like Battletoads. They give you a fairly easy first level. But as soon as that first level is done, every level afterward is basically giving you a giant middle finger. It took me literally 5 years to get to the point to where I could complete that game 90% of the time on my NES console (meaning no save states).

Fantastic Adventures of Dizzy is another example. At first, you are strolling through this massive world thinking "this is pretty easy". But then you start to realize the more you are carrying around items that you are unsure of their purpose, the more you end up further screwing yourself in the whole game. Getting through that entire game with no walkthroughs back in my day was like taking a metal file to my teeth because of how much this game made me clench and grind my teeth together out of anger.

I would seriously rate this game a 6 in difficulty at the most compared to a lot of my favorite retro games.

rcarter2 : That is perfectly put. Games today are so much easier then the Retro games.  I prefer the more difficult games and not the ones that congratulate you for pressing the A button 8 times in a row. 

bombchu link :   LOL and amen to that!

Most things today are watered down for the upcoming generations.  Games, education, job expectations.....

It's ridiculous.  It's kind of sad when even gaming has to be watered down because kids these days don't have the patience or perseverence to try challenging things, or to improve their skills so that they can be successful.

I have to agree with rcarter2 on this one.  It's one of the reasons I like retro games so much... I like the challenge.  I hate, for example, using 'cheat codes' in games.  To me, what's the fun in playing a game if there's no challenge?  Then what do you have to feel successful about?  Me?  I like to beat a crazy hard game.... it gives me a bigger sense of satisfaction.

Singelli : Which is exactly why when you look at online leader boards for modern games, 8/10 times, the top people are in their mid to late 20's. They didn't grow up on overpraising games.

Singelli : I agree and disagree with the cheat code part, I like the codes like 2X damage and harder enemies. But I know what you mean, I don't play games that don't challenge me. I have to absolutely agree that most all things have been watered down in today's society! Things just are not the way they were.

Does anyone else find it funny that this thread was originally made to rant about how this game is so  stupidly hard that it is not worth playing, and the response this thread is getting is "I miss games like that ". No?..... Well, I find it funny.

rcarter2 : Yeah, I realized that just 2 posts ago. Well as they say, If life gives you lemons, make lemonade!

If a game is ever too hard or I want to try some strange unoffical game genie/ game shark codes, I would use the game genie. I mostly use game genie when it gets way too hard. Infinite lives has to be my favorite kind of gameshark code. Helps out with games like Zelda II for me to beat the great palace and get there, battletoads, and especially using the action replay for insanely difficult DS, Gamecube, and Wii games.

Stevie 764 : I use a game genie for just the opposite, I like to terrorize the Kokiri in Zelda ocarina of time by making Iron Knuckles spawn everwhere

rcarter2 : Would it be appropriate to change the name of the thread to WHY IN THE WORLD IS THIS GAME SO HARD!!!

bombchu link : Yeah, probably. 

I found the hammer, but I always die on the third dungeon or some other area before a dungeon.

Well, it's definitely not the hardest game in the NES library, but I can't even beat the first palace; and some other NES games generally described as hard I can beat. I would not say the game is cheaply made though, but it's just made to be hard. Please note that this game is made in Japan, and the Japanese are superhumans when it comes to hard games.

All I can think of now is this song, and now that I'm thinking of it, I'm reminds of this one as well. NSFW warning, what with cursing and such (especially the second one). I love the game, but it is definitely hard. Never actually beaten it...

It is difficult, and its not as good as the original. Its not bad though.