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Unarmed black teen shot dead

 
Should shooter be jailed? Simple question, i think simple answer too, but what do you think?
He should be arrested
 
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I'd say guilty. For one thing, a neighborhood watchman isn't supposed to be armed in the first place, nor should they shoot. They are to alert the neighbors as well as the police. That is all. A racial thing or not, that shouldn't have happened, and is a shame that a person would do that. Especially seeing as the young teen wasn't armed with anything. Just a bag of skittles.

It may have very well have been for a good deed. Unfortunately, the person has not been fully aware of the consequences that follow having a gun in the first place. Honestly, that why I'd say you need to read the rules on these things. If he's aware of the "stand your ground" rule, he should know this.
I'd say guilty. For one thing, a neighborhood watchman isn't supposed to be armed in the first place, nor should they shoot. They are to alert the neighbors as well as the police. That is all. A racial thing or not, that shouldn't have happened, and is a shame that a person would do that. Especially seeing as the young teen wasn't armed with anything. Just a bag of skittles.

It may have very well have been for a good deed. Unfortunately, the person has not been fully aware of the consequences that follow having a gun in the first place. Honestly, that why I'd say you need to read the rules on these things. If he's aware of the "stand your ground" rule, he should know this.
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Sorry, thenumberone. I meant Nancy Grace. The old woman on HLN.
Anyway... I have not been following this story as much as I would have liked too cause I have been doing a lot of work, and having to go into work a lot lately. But, from what I know... yes, I think the guy should be arrested. He had no reasoning for shooting the kid to death.


Sorry, thenumberone. I meant Nancy Grace. The old woman on HLN.
Anyway... I have not been following this story as much as I would have liked too cause I have been doing a lot of work, and having to go into work a lot lately. But, from what I know... yes, I think the guy should be arrested. He had no reasoning for shooting the kid to death.


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Honestly, I have no idea. But it's time for the public to shut the hell up and stop condemning people as guilty without even knowing any of the circumstances. Our justice system is far from perfect, but it does alright. People should leave it well enough alone until they actually have some facts.
Honestly, I have no idea. But it's time for the public to shut the hell up and stop condemning people as guilty without even knowing any of the circumstances. Our justice system is far from perfect, but it does alright. People should leave it well enough alone until they actually have some facts.
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soxfan849 : its common policy to arrest people until said facts are established
soxfan849 : its common policy to arrest people until said facts are established
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It is never common policy to arrest anyone before the facts are established. An arrest cannot be made without probable cause. In order for there to be probable cause, there needs to be evidence that a crime was committed, and evidence that the suspect committed that crime. Apparently they don't have probable cause. My guess would be that it's due to the witnesses who have backed his self-defense story.
It is never common policy to arrest anyone before the facts are established. An arrest cannot be made without probable cause. In order for there to be probable cause, there needs to be evidence that a crime was committed, and evidence that the suspect committed that crime. Apparently they don't have probable cause. My guess would be that it's due to the witnesses who have backed his self-defense story.
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soxfan849 : in a murder trial there is a full investigation during which time the suspect is detained.
this never happened
soxfan849 : in a murder trial there is a full investigation during which time the suspect is detained.
this never happened
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I'm assuming that what the police have said is true until more facts surrounding the case are released. According to police there were witnesses whose story matched up with Zimmerman's self-defense story. Police do not arrest someone when there isn't evidence that a crime has been committed.

Ultimately he's probably going to get arrested, but the people who act as though they saw the whole thing and know what happened are being absurd. Our justice system is extremely flawed. I have a lot of complaints about it myself. But if the general public were in charge of things it would be far worse.

The case is going before a grand jury, which will decide whether or not he should be arrested. The FBI is investigating as well. He's not just gonna walk away from this.
I'm assuming that what the police have said is true until more facts surrounding the case are released. According to police there were witnesses whose story matched up with Zimmerman's self-defense story. Police do not arrest someone when there isn't evidence that a crime has been committed.

Ultimately he's probably going to get arrested, but the people who act as though they saw the whole thing and know what happened are being absurd. Our justice system is extremely flawed. I have a lot of complaints about it myself. But if the general public were in charge of things it would be far worse.

The case is going before a grand jury, which will decide whether or not he should be arrested. The FBI is investigating as well. He's not just gonna walk away from this.
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soxfan849 : in the uk, if a person is killed you are detained until the investigation is concluded, thats the way it should be, he wasnt and they never so much as checked his record, weather or not hes guilty is another matter, my concern is correct procedure has been ignored.
soxfan849 : in the uk, if a person is killed you are detained until the investigation is concluded, thats the way it should be, he wasnt and they never so much as checked his record, weather or not hes guilty is another matter, my concern is correct procedure has been ignored.
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A seventeen year old, carrying a soda and a bag of skittles.

Versus

A paranoid twenty-eight year old man armed with a gun.

It was self defense. Riiiiight.
A seventeen year old, carrying a soda and a bag of skittles.

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A paranoid twenty-eight year old man armed with a gun.

It was self defense. Riiiiight.
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It didn't occur in the UK. And I couldn't disagree more with you. Assuming that what they said is true and there was evidence at the time to suggest that it was self defense, then he should not have been arrested.

At this point he almost definitely will be, but not until this goes in front of a grand jury in April. Although they are saying that they may not even need to take it to a grand jury, but we'll see.

The legal system takes time, but it's so much better to take the time and get it right than it is to overreact and put an innocent man in prison before you figure everything out. Of course it still isn't perfect, but if the general public were responsible for deciding guilt we'd have the Salem witch trials all over again.
It didn't occur in the UK. And I couldn't disagree more with you. Assuming that what they said is true and there was evidence at the time to suggest that it was self defense, then he should not have been arrested.

At this point he almost definitely will be, but not until this goes in front of a grand jury in April. Although they are saying that they may not even need to take it to a grand jury, but we'll see.

The legal system takes time, but it's so much better to take the time and get it right than it is to overreact and put an innocent man in prison before you figure everything out. Of course it still isn't perfect, but if the general public were responsible for deciding guilt we'd have the Salem witch trials all over again.
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soxfan849 : There was the person he was on the phone to that gave evidence against him and in 911 calls you can hear the kid screaming, if that dosent count as evidence then id say that law is truely dead
soxfan849 : There was the person he was on the phone to that gave evidence against him and in 911 calls you can hear the kid screaming, if that dosent count as evidence then id say that law is truely dead
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Is this the story about Trayvon? I heard about it from my mom yesterday. It pretty much bothers me but there's not much you could do. The whole race thing still plays a strong role in a lot of these things. This is just one example.
Is this the story about Trayvon? I heard about it from my mom yesterday. It pretty much bothers me but there's not much you could do. The whole race thing still plays a strong role in a lot of these things. This is just one example.
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I've had mixed thoughts on this. In the very beginning I thought the same as everyone else that this George Zimmerman guy was guilty and Martin was innocent. But now since more is coming out, it sounds as though this kid really was a punk so it wouldn't necessarily surprise me if the allegations are true. So I am very mixed on this.
I've had mixed thoughts on this. In the very beginning I thought the same as everyone else that this George Zimmerman guy was guilty and Martin was innocent. But now since more is coming out, it sounds as though this kid really was a punk so it wouldn't necessarily surprise me if the allegations are true. So I am very mixed on this.
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I don't really know a whole lot about the case. I have read a little online, and that's it. So I'm no expert on the subject.

I do think that it's messed up that some people tried to blame the fact that the kid had a "hoodie" on and that contributed to him being shot. I think that's a ridiculous statement to make.
I don't really know a whole lot about the case. I have read a little online, and that's it. So I'm no expert on the subject.

I do think that it's messed up that some people tried to blame the fact that the kid had a "hoodie" on and that contributed to him being shot. I think that's a ridiculous statement to make.
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Just by the facts we already know, it can't be called self defence, that is, unless the man holding the pistol was seriously injured.
You do not need a gun to defend yourself from an unharmed kid. The measures he took were clearly racist, and how do we even know
the kid attacked him? This case should undergo an investigation and should have done so long before today.

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This was an Ace Investigator post ; for justice must be rendered.
Just by the facts we already know, it can't be called self defence, that is, unless the man holding the pistol was seriously injured.
You do not need a gun to defend yourself from an unharmed kid. The measures he took were clearly racist, and how do we even know
the kid attacked him? This case should undergo an investigation and should have done so long before today.

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This was an Ace Investigator post ; for justice must be rendered.
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This shows a real good reason on how racist the public can be. The guy was shot for looking suspicious, and shooting and killing him for no reason whatsoever? That's cold.
This shows a real good reason on how racist the public can be. The guy was shot for looking suspicious, and shooting and killing him for no reason whatsoever? That's cold.
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I feel this song is a great way to show how messed up our world is: Skittles And Arizona. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfHvNDnplT4&list=FLftQzSBDoMLbt6nD0_r1G_g&index=1&feature=plpp_video
I feel this song is a great way to show how messed up our world is: Skittles And Arizona. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfHvNDnplT4&list=FLftQzSBDoMLbt6nD0_r1G_g&index=1&feature=plpp_video
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Does the fact that Zimmerman took off and no one knows where he is mean he is guilty? In my mind it sure does.
Does the fact that Zimmerman took off and no one knows where he is mean he is guilty? In my mind it sure does.
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u think its stupid he hasn't been charged yet he needs to be locked away maybe even the death p and I always thought that the whole point of the neighborhood watch was to watch and call the cops not take matters into your own hands I live in an area called Milton-Freewater near the Washington border and like 8 months ago there was a shooting where one Hispanic shot another they had no evidence on the shooting and no proof he shot him not even any wittiness's cause it happened at like two in the mourning but they booked him regardless and come to find out they arrested the wrong man so for all u guys saying they cant arrest him without probable cause is not true so instead of saying the government cant do this r that y don't u make sure u actually know what u r talking about first I don't mean to sound rude but my uncle is a sheriff and he is furious at the way they r handling this if u look back at all the other cases like this u can see they r just letting Zimmerman be cause he shot the most dangerous kind of person an unarmed African-American wearing a hoody and as for the evidence what more evidence do u need than the bullet that killed the kid came from Zimmerman's gun 
u think its stupid he hasn't been charged yet he needs to be locked away maybe even the death p and I always thought that the whole point of the neighborhood watch was to watch and call the cops not take matters into your own hands I live in an area called Milton-Freewater near the Washington border and like 8 months ago there was a shooting where one Hispanic shot another they had no evidence on the shooting and no proof he shot him not even any wittiness's cause it happened at like two in the mourning but they booked him regardless and come to find out they arrested the wrong man so for all u guys saying they cant arrest him without probable cause is not true so instead of saying the government cant do this r that y don't u make sure u actually know what u r talking about first I don't mean to sound rude but my uncle is a sheriff and he is furious at the way they r handling this if u look back at all the other cases like this u can see they r just letting Zimmerman be cause he shot the most dangerous kind of person an unarmed African-American wearing a hoody and as for the evidence what more evidence do u need than the bullet that killed the kid came from Zimmerman's gun 
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smotpoker86 : he did? thats conclusive to me
smotpoker86 : he did? thats conclusive to me
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