Elara : I couldn't tell you what's going on with him. This was a few years back when all that started to happen with him. I haven't heard from him since. If I had to guess. I believe they either move from their home or changed their numbers, because there were a few times I had made attempts to call him, but to no avail. So I don't know how he is doing now, but I only hope he's doing better now.

Natas : I may be able to give some perspective on why people cut. I have never cut myself, but I think the only reason I never started is because I really can't stand blood. I get all light headed and stuff when I see it; but that didn't stop me from hurting myself. Genetics, unfortunately, predisposed me to depression and some events in my life set it off. Now they aren't as dramatic or bad as some other experiences I've seen on here, but everyone has their own version of hell. Mine was made worse, or even caused by depression and I was stuck in hole I couldn't get out of. An eternal optimist became a pessimist overnight. My mind became fogged with emotional pain and I lost myself in the mist. All that was left was an empty shell just trying to make the pain stop. Most of the time I could manage it, but other times I was set off by the tiniest things. Depression does that, it turns the tiniest set back into the end of the world. When that happened, I would hurt myself. Digging my nails into my arm or biting(I never broke the skin)hitting myself as hard as I could until my face was red and numb. I told myself that I was punishing myself, that whatever had gone wrong was my fault and deserved pain. The other, more hidden reason was that I couldn't take the emotional pain, so I hurt myself to make an outlet for my emotions. It just didn't make sense to be hurting so bad on the inside when there was no wound on the outside. I had isolated myself, so I didn't talk to anyone about my problems and I was pretty good at pretending nothing was wrong. I dressed in preppier clothes and would fake a smile now and then. No one suspected anything, which made me worse. I actually got to the point where a part of me just wanted to die, to make the pain stop. What was left of me, the happy me who loved life, thankfully made an appearance and made me scared enough of my own thoughts that I made a friend and started talking it out. I slowly got better, without professional help, though I needed it and probably would have recovered faster. Now five years later, I'm the happiest I've ever been.
Sorry, that was a bit longer than I was planning on, but writing it out for the first time was strangely nice. I hope this helps you understand a little better.

rlmathias01 : Self inflicting pain just confuses me sometimes lol. Honestly, I've done worse. This is all in my opinion. I never hurt myself no, but I've manage to get rid of most of my emotions. When something funny happens. I'll laugh, but it stops in seconds and I'll give that bored expression. Whenever I was in a relationship. I had to fake love, because when the girl showed her affection to me. It's like I didn't care. (I'm straight by the way if you have to know with that comment. Lol) But, I did love her, but I couldn't show it. When people makes fun of me or whatever they do to hurt my feelings. I just don't care what they think of me. I am who I am. Basically. It's like I lack emotion due to the trama my father put me through. I don't bottle it inside though.

Okay for one there are people who have ALOT worse lives who want to stay alive and these emo people who want to die and live in houses and have food to eat..serously they need to get a REAL life and learn how hard it is being other people.

That's my opinion though

I think the type of emo that this thread is referring to is the "scene kid" type of emo. The kind that isn't real, but just a stereotype that some people they decide they want to be a part of. It's those people that define what people mean when they use the term emo. Other than that, there's not really even something like emo. Just other things, like people who are depressed and or people who are emotional scarred and such. There's nothing stupid about being depressed as it is a legitimate medical condition, but the only ones who should be mocked are the people who pretend to be 'emo' because their friends become 'emo'  and would change and become a different person as soon as they found something more "popular" to be.  This emo is something that people want to be. It's just a joke. People who are depressed and or scarred and just have no idea what to do and are almost literally without hope aren't emo. It's just a title that people like to have as kids when they want to fit in to a certain group like people who pretend to be hardcore gangsters that grew up on the streets when they grew up in a mansion with a loving family and everything they could ever need and a secure future because they want to seem cool and they want to fit in with the kids who really did have to grow up on the streets or the people who pretend to be like that.

I think the main thing that grabs my attention is how some posters on this site are very uneducated on "killing themselves or cutting for attention". Being a teacher, this is an area I have spent a lot of time studying as far as the behavior on a psychological perspective as well as real cases on this issue. I'm sure a lot of the people making the posts I am finding upsetting are simply young. But being annoyed with people who do such things for attention are also not to be taken lightly. Natas gave us a fairly in depth look into his personal life to show that people can be okay. But there was a thing that doesn't seem to be taken into consideration. You can live in a family who can be rich or at least not have to struggle so hard financially. They can live in that same home and not see their family members be beaten around a little or have near death experiences. But it seems that the perspective is that if you have that life, you have no reason to do that. But from what I can tell from Natas, there is still a lot of love in his family. It was even stated that they fight together to get through to the next day and it strengthened their bond. Never underestimate the power having people who love you truly is on a person. In a lot of cases, something such as not ever being paid attention to is more than enough to lead someone to such behavior. It is hard to imagine. I'm sure many think they wouldn't have such thoughts just because they are ignored at home. But look at it from this perspective. What if being ignored is something that kid from a more wealthy non physically abusive family got for as long as he/she can remember. When a child is growing up, they need love and attention. And if the people who they are supposed to get love and support from ignore them, what are they going to grow up thinking? Their parents don't care about them, so why would anyone else? When a kid grows up in that environment, the feeling that they don't really matter. That feeling is something that is a part of who they are now. When you don't feel like you matter, you don't see the point in anything. 
Let me clear up an assumption that a LOT of people on this thread seem to have. People do not cut themselves or commit suicide for no reason. Those people clearly have something in their lives that made them think that they are not important to anyone, so they don't feel important to themselves. And like Annette said, you can't talk bad about them doing such things just because you don't understand why they feel that way. You clearly do not live with them, so you can say nothing about their family life. Like I said, you do not have to be in a poor, abusive, hating family to have just as much legitimate feelings about suicide as someone who does live in such a family. 
There was also one comment that did offend me because I work with many kids at the mental health center here, and I know that this comment was clearly due to a lack of knowledge on this topic. The comment that many people who grow up in abusive, neglecting families who starve them and come out 'happy go lucky'. That is almost NEVER the case. Like I said, I work at the mental health center here. I have worked at MANY centers for children who were saved from families who did that to them. 99% of those kids are very messed up inside and will never be the same as before they were in that situation or will never really escape what that did to them. Saying they come out happy go lucky after that is the farthest from the truth as you can get. And there are a lot of kids I work with who appear that way to everyone else. But when you see them away from the public, you see that they aren't near as 'happy go lucky' as they appear to be. 
You can't take your life situation on how bad may be, and compare it to someone who feels suicidal. Like I said, it was clear that though the description of the life is bad, it is also clear that love is in the family, and that one aspect is often more than enough to make you feel that your life is worth living. If you go through the life described in the first post and there is no love felt, I don't think you would feel the same way about life.

Natas: I reread my post today, and I saw that it seemed like I attacked you. Just want you to know that it is not what I'm doing. I did pick out a couple things you said (mainly the happy go lucky thing) because I did strongly disagree with that part because I have been working with people from such backgrounds for so long. And when I talked about you having love in your life, I was not trying to discredit your life story. The story you gave after Elara was very sad and I commend you for seeming to have a pretty positive attitude with your life. It definitely sounds rough. I just pointed out how even though you were treated the way you were from your father, it was a great thing that you still had other people who love you and didn't make you feel worthless, and that very might well be what kept you on the right end. Again, sorry if it seemed like I attacked you. I forgot to say that I do agree with you when it comes to the people who say they cut themselves when they really don't. I have worked with a lot of kids who cut in my job, and those people who talk about how much they cut themselves and there are absolutely no scars on the places they specifically say they cut is infuriating. It is a mockery to those who are driven to that point and do need a slap in the face

Elara: It certainly is brave to put yourself out there like that just to shed light on some of the posters who clearly don't know anything about such things. Like I said, I have had to not only study this a lot, but I have worked with it for a few years. I am not going to pretend that I truly relate to people who are in that state because I have never been there. But I am someone who does understand the reasoning of why they do so. And I understand fairly well the thinking of someone who wants to commit suicide or cut to the point where I see why they would want to. It makes more than enough sense when you can honestly say you at least know what the feelings are even though you don't know how it feels. But it is great that there are people like you who can at least try to get people who are ignorant on this topic to pipe down.

First of all, not all "emo" people are suicidal. "Emo" is literally just an abbreviation for "emotional", and not all of them cut themselves , or are dying for attention. Yeah, I can see where you're going with the "people who want to kill themselves, just because there mom grounded them", those people are annoying and ARE dying for attention.
"Emo" also defines many other things, other than just wanting to hurt yourself. Such as, their music tastes, types of clothes, and hair. I do find that "emo" guys look kind of...well more in touch with their feminine side. I'm not trying to flame, but that's what their style looks like on guys...to me at least.
I also don't care much for all the piercings and tattoos, and stuff like that. Well I hate piercings and tattoos in general anyways.

Well, my main point is not all emo people are like suicidal and all that. Although every one automatically assumes "emo" means "suicidal".
My grandmas best friends son committed suicide, but he didn't fit the "emo" style, I guess you could call it. He was just depressed...

rcarter2 : No, you're fine. I wasn't offended or upset by what you said. I know you were shedding light on the subject. I've seen the error of my first post when I created this thread, but I was mainly targeting the "Posers" so to speak, but it didn't seem that way. Lol I had little knowledge of the real problems in peoples life, but thanks to Elara and other's posts. I have more knowledge of the subject. 

Elara : You were summoned by him. Lol 

Natas : That's good. I was hoping that I didn't sound like I was attacking. It actually wasn't even about your first post. It was more what other people were saying. I got so wrapped up in that that I didn't even say anything about what your purpose for this thread was for. Like I said, I completely agree with you on the posers. They are so disrespectful of everyone around them and just make it harder to take people who actually have that problem seriously. Sometimes it makes it hard to know what is a cry for attention and what is a cry for help.

amen natas your right emos think suicide is the way out well guess what you don't go to heaven if you commit suicide and hell is a lot worse then earth

rcarter2 : Thank you for your compliments and for what you do. It is nice to have other people out there they try to understand and get through to people.

... A pity that it doesn't seem to work all of the time.

Elara : I wasn't implying that they aren't serious. I was just recounting an incident that the girl that stalked me was doing and how she thought it was "cool". I also never laugh at someone who threatens suicide. All I am saying is sometimes they think something small that happens to them means their life is over and it's not. It's sad really.