you know what makes no sense to me?

the fact that different rules apply to the planes that hit the towers and the plane that hit the pentagon...

did anyone see wings sheer off when the planes hit the 2 towers? I didn't

I saw a building swallow a plane....

you wanna know why? because a plane going that fast is going to destroy what it hits....

especially if it didn't hit the ground (which it sure doesn't look like it did)

that's just my opinion on that.... take it or leave it

Well we can finally put this to a rest.
This morning i saw with my own eyes the pentagon's released video of the nose of the plane coming into the picture then the pentagon exploding. These were now released because the Zacarias Musaui(spelling?) and 9/11 cases are over. I also saw a picture of wreckage from the attack.
This can be closed now

Nose of a plane? Or a flying saucer?
Look again, for the first time, communist.

I seen the vid the pentagon released last night. I've seen it before, i feel like i've done something highly illegal to see it, but it was just in that pentagon.swf clip.

Flying saucer, thats a good one, maby it was a russian flying sourcer. We should just call it a UFO, cos thats what it is.

That's right. Until you actually see the cockpit of said 'plane', and the turbine engine of said 'plane' and the wings of said 'plane' and the running lights of said 'plane' and the tail of said 'plane' and the Southwest Airlines Logo of said 'plane', then you simply can't claim that it's a plane. "zomfg, it was pointy!". Your mom is pointy.

Flying. Yes. Object. Yes. Identified? No.

At least we can agree on one thing. It was either a Missle, or an F14. 757s just don't have pointy noses like that.

They wouldnt put a F14 into a building.. they would cost alot . Maby someone knew to much, and the US was waiting for 9/11 to happen (because people think they knew it was comming) just so they could take out a key figure in the pentagon.

Unidentifed Flying Object...
so it is a UFO then?

Until we know the serial number, or at least whether it's human-made technology or not, then yes, it is quite unidentified.

It would be funny if the news started calling it a UFO, just cos its unidentifiable.

Originally posted by Bookworm

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Just a little info... Christian's and Jehovah's Witness don't agree on things. You figure out why I mentioned it.

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Um, any 6 year old can figure that out. My mother has a King James Bible... from what I read of both, I don't see much difference.

Anywho, supposedly the plane skidded into the Pentagon, hence that huge line on the lawn. At least that is what they claimed. To do that, it would have had to hit the ground Geeogree. Also, look at the hole in the side of the Pentagon... that is not big enough for the wings of a 757 to go through, so where did they go? You can compare it to the planes at the Twin Towers all you want, but that hole is part of photographical evidence that cannot be denied. Where did the wings of the plane go?

Earlier tonight by coincidence I watched the same video that elara has linked. And I looked the whole thing up on wiki and read. THEN I searched through the many forums to find the right one, and was going to make a thread BUT Elara had beat me too it.

Herm. Comments?

First of all its hard to trust slanted propoganda. There is no fairness and alot of Spin in these videos. For example, people make these statements "It sounded like a missle" WEll have you ever heard a missle? Or people in the other video have statments that sound like they are taken entirely out of reference, ala peter moores movie.

Now as the closest thing I could find to the fair and balanced truth was wikipedia.

BUt here is my synopsis

There very well may have been an incredible conspiracy, but the american people are smart, if there was alot to hide and alot not adding up they would be in an uproar, we can't judge it by slanted media.

Now for most things in the video I can think of logical explanations, for the puffs of smoke that come out while the building is collasping etc. Or why the fbi took the films (it doesn't say it wasn't volintary, if they TOOK the films by force the video would definantly point that out) But as I am not the expert on anything, my explanations don't mean a thing I guess since I don't have a degree or anything.

Now... Could it be that people have been watching V for Vendetta too many times?

IDK, but I will read up more on the matter. On wiki I did read an interesting Bush quote

George Bush in a September 6th speech which declares that terrorism springs from "subcultures of conspiracy and misinformation," and that "terrorists recruit more effectively from populations whose information about the world is contaminated by falsehoods and corrupted by conspiracy theories. The distortions keep alive grievances and filter out facts that would challenge popular prejudices and self-serving propaganda."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/911_Conspiracy

I seen a doco just the other night. The 2nd plane into the towers 'saposidly' had some sort of, thing, attached to the bottom, and eye witnesses say that it didn't have any windows. This leads to the conclusion of it being a military aircraft... Why would the US government do that?

Back in the cold war, America was going to do 'terrorist' attacks on there own soils to draw hatred against the enemy. Could this be one of them? Who knows... , most probably not likely .

Also, before 2nd plane hit, there was a flash at the very front of the plane. It wasnt the plane hitting the building, because the reflection is on the building, so flash was on the plane, before it hit the building. Any explanation?

quite the evil empire would do that... its.... clever... in part... and absolutely self genocidal crazyness on another

THOSE BASTARDS! THEY BLEW IT UP! HOW COULD THEY!

*ahem*

I shall not participate in this any more... as i will only be endangering my own life...

Darn streight. But today is 5 years on, not time to look into conspiracy thereies and who did what when, but to remember the past.

Originally posted by BigBob85

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I seen a doco just the other night. The 2nd plane into the towers 'saposidly' had some sort of, thing, attached to the bottom, and eye witnesses say that it didn't have any windows. This leads to the conclusion of it being a military aircraft... Why would the US government do that?

Back in the cold war, America was going to do 'terrorist' attacks on there own soils to draw hatred against the enemy. Could this be one of them? Who knows... , most probably not likely .

Also, before 2nd plane hit, there was a flash at the very front of the plane. It wasnt the plane hitting the building, because the reflection is on the building, so flash was on the plane, before it hit the building. Any explanation?

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Where did you hear this about the cold War? It never happened so I suppose it would be hard to prove or back up.

And are you guys saying that somehow the people who got on the airplane that took off from the airport are missing? And it was another plane that hit?


From what I can see from the pentagons pictures it is very possible for a plane to have flew into it. Has anyone ever saw a plane fly into a building like that before? They say that alot more wreckage inside the rings of the pentagon.

Im not sure if it was the cold war, but it was some war.

Im not saying thats what happened, thats what the documentary said.

The pentagon has full concrete and steel reinforced walls, a plane should have been able to penetrated 3 rings or whatever it did. And as for wreckage, i think they mean wings, tail wing thing. All that would have snapped off and been wreckage outside the building.

The damage done to the building is less than a wingspan, so somehow, the wings didn't hit (or didn't it have wings?) the walls, and yet, they ended up inside the building...

all i can say, is that i love south park's take on the 9/11 conspiracy theories.

Hey Ziggy, a slight head's up, we're not mad or anything, but please check the dates on top of posts to see the last post, because "bumping" a thread can cause confusion. What I mean is, this topic ended in 2006, and your latest post is in 2008. Don't worry, you didn't know .