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Catholicism is not biblical (We need to get this clear)

 

06-10-10 03:52 PM
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I hear this way too often. People need to understand that the teachings from the Catholic church are not biblical and are not deemed Christian. This is the reason that there is the Reformation, because many people saw that there is a problem with doctrine and corruption issues, they were forced to create a schism.

If you want to address any of the following issues, please discuss here. These are the doctrinal problems of the catholic church that are not biblical and can be deemed heretical:
-Infused Righteousness (works-based salvation)
-The existence of purgatory
-Mary as divine
-Praying to the saints
-Transubstantiation (Holy Communion as literally consuming Jesus' body and blood)
-Authority by the pope higher than scripture (Don't know if this is true nowadays)

*NOTE: This does not mean that all Catholics are not Christian, for there are those who faithfully believe in the true Gospel. However, those that you may call "good Catholics", meaning those who follow Catholic doctrine are not saved.
I hear this way too often. People need to understand that the teachings from the Catholic church are not biblical and are not deemed Christian. This is the reason that there is the Reformation, because many people saw that there is a problem with doctrine and corruption issues, they were forced to create a schism.

If you want to address any of the following issues, please discuss here. These are the doctrinal problems of the catholic church that are not biblical and can be deemed heretical:
-Infused Righteousness (works-based salvation)
-The existence of purgatory
-Mary as divine
-Praying to the saints
-Transubstantiation (Holy Communion as literally consuming Jesus' body and blood)
-Authority by the pope higher than scripture (Don't know if this is true nowadays)

*NOTE: This does not mean that all Catholics are not Christian, for there are those who faithfully believe in the true Gospel. However, those that you may call "good Catholics", meaning those who follow Catholic doctrine are not saved.
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I don't like the concept of all these labels.... but let me guess is the Pope apart of the "bad guy" group?

Also why are Catholics not saved? If you both believe in god then obviously you must both be saved? This is quite exciting though people following god and not getting saved for it someone is pulling some major ticks on the people and misleading them
I don't like the concept of all these labels.... but let me guess is the Pope apart of the "bad guy" group?

Also why are Catholics not saved? If you both believe in god then obviously you must both be saved? This is quite exciting though people following god and not getting saved for it someone is pulling some major ticks on the people and misleading them
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JigSaw : "I don't like the concept of all these labels.... but let me guess is the Pope apart of the "bad guy" group?"

Could you clarify this? I don't quite get what you are saying...

"Also why are Catholics not saved? If you both believe in god then obviously you must both be saved? This is quite exciting though people following god and not getting saved for it someone is pulling some major ticks on the people and misleading them"

People do not get saved because they believe in God. "You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder." (James 2:19) Even the demons believe in God, but their fate will still be bad. Why? Because they rebelled against God. Christians are saved not only because they believe in God, but that they repented, which is change in attitude from sin to God (which leads to repentance of sins in action) and have faith in God (trust in God).

Here's an analogy that might give you a better understanding.

There was an tightrope performer (don't remember the name) who was known for his performance on a tightrope to cross a certain waterfall with a wheelbarrow. People see him moving across and back and were amazed by how good he is. He asked the crowd "Do you believe that I can cross this waterfall with a person in this wheelbarrow?" Everyone said yes with confidence. He got on the rope, and then said "Good, who would want to sit in it?" and everyone went silent. There is a difference in believing in God and putting your trust in God.

And this is another reason why Catholics are not saved, because they believe in a works-based salvation, which means that they are putting their faith in how good they are. If they do more good than bad, they believe that they would go to heaven, or at least purgatory. Unlike what the Bible says, NO ONE can do enough good to earn them heaven. It's God's grace from what he did on the cross. That is enough. And from people turning from sin to God and trusting in Him, they would rely on God for their salvation, not themselves.
JigSaw : "I don't like the concept of all these labels.... but let me guess is the Pope apart of the "bad guy" group?"

Could you clarify this? I don't quite get what you are saying...

"Also why are Catholics not saved? If you both believe in god then obviously you must both be saved? This is quite exciting though people following god and not getting saved for it someone is pulling some major ticks on the people and misleading them"

People do not get saved because they believe in God. "You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder." (James 2:19) Even the demons believe in God, but their fate will still be bad. Why? Because they rebelled against God. Christians are saved not only because they believe in God, but that they repented, which is change in attitude from sin to God (which leads to repentance of sins in action) and have faith in God (trust in God).

Here's an analogy that might give you a better understanding.

There was an tightrope performer (don't remember the name) who was known for his performance on a tightrope to cross a certain waterfall with a wheelbarrow. People see him moving across and back and were amazed by how good he is. He asked the crowd "Do you believe that I can cross this waterfall with a person in this wheelbarrow?" Everyone said yes with confidence. He got on the rope, and then said "Good, who would want to sit in it?" and everyone went silent. There is a difference in believing in God and putting your trust in God.

And this is another reason why Catholics are not saved, because they believe in a works-based salvation, which means that they are putting their faith in how good they are. If they do more good than bad, they believe that they would go to heaven, or at least purgatory. Unlike what the Bible says, NO ONE can do enough good to earn them heaven. It's God's grace from what he did on the cross. That is enough. And from people turning from sin to God and trusting in Him, they would rely on God for their salvation, not themselves.
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What I'm saying is your putting labels on god through christianity, catholicism, and whatever other religions there are with a god in it. It should not matter, if it does then that makes religion look even worse then it already appears. Your basically saying your own kind will go to hell for doing it differently.

Isn't there a law "Thou Shall Not Judge?" Or only god can judge? If so then that means you are going against gods rules.

People who believe in god believe in devil, people who believe in devil believe in god but people who don't believe in either face no judgment cause you cannot judge someone who does not believe in either. If god does judge someone who does not believe in either then that is wrongful prosecution and it would be wrong.

So basically with your circus example your saying believe in god dont trust religion? That is what it should be but its the other way around.
What I'm saying is your putting labels on god through christianity, catholicism, and whatever other religions there are with a god in it. It should not matter, if it does then that makes religion look even worse then it already appears. Your basically saying your own kind will go to hell for doing it differently.

Isn't there a law "Thou Shall Not Judge?" Or only god can judge? If so then that means you are going against gods rules.

People who believe in god believe in devil, people who believe in devil believe in god but people who don't believe in either face no judgment cause you cannot judge someone who does not believe in either. If god does judge someone who does not believe in either then that is wrongful prosecution and it would be wrong.

So basically with your circus example your saying believe in god dont trust religion? That is what it should be but its the other way around.
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JigSaw : Yes, God is the judge. But that's the point. Because Catholics are trained to confess to a priest and rely on the clergy rather than on God, they are not asking God for their forgiveness. Instead, they pray to Mary, the saints, and other idols. God can not provide forgiveness to those who will not receive it.
JigSaw : Yes, God is the judge. But that's the point. Because Catholics are trained to confess to a priest and rely on the clergy rather than on God, they are not asking God for their forgiveness. Instead, they pray to Mary, the saints, and other idols. God can not provide forgiveness to those who will not receive it.
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Well the priests are simply pawns for god. Since god wont reply some people will feel a lot better spitting it out to a human instead because they actually care. Whats wrong with praying to Mary and saints? I suppose God wants all the attention? figures that is how it usually works. This is how the world works, ignore the people who made it possible and overate the main man in charge and give him all the credit.
Well the priests are simply pawns for god. Since god wont reply some people will feel a lot better spitting it out to a human instead because they actually care. Whats wrong with praying to Mary and saints? I suppose God wants all the attention? figures that is how it usually works. This is how the world works, ignore the people who made it possible and overate the main man in charge and give him all the credit.
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JigSaw : Exactly how did Mary "make it possible?" All she did was get pregnant. I fail to see how that makes her "holy" or in any way a "goddess." Prayer to her is not only unbiblical, it's illogical.

Here's the thing: when you pray to the wrong god or to the wrong divine being or whatever, it's like hanging over a pit with vines and snakes. If you grab onto a snake and die, that's your own fault. You made the mistake. The vine can't wrap around your hand and pull you up; you have to grab it. And the snake sure isn't going to help.

God does care for you, but if you pray to the saints how is he supposed to help you? You won't even talk to him. Heck, you won't even acknowledge that he's in the room with you right now. That's why the vail in the temple was torn in two when Jesus died; there's no separation between God and man that man doesn't decide to create.
JigSaw : Exactly how did Mary "make it possible?" All she did was get pregnant. I fail to see how that makes her "holy" or in any way a "goddess." Prayer to her is not only unbiblical, it's illogical.

Here's the thing: when you pray to the wrong god or to the wrong divine being or whatever, it's like hanging over a pit with vines and snakes. If you grab onto a snake and die, that's your own fault. You made the mistake. The vine can't wrap around your hand and pull you up; you have to grab it. And the snake sure isn't going to help.

God does care for you, but if you pray to the saints how is he supposed to help you? You won't even talk to him. Heck, you won't even acknowledge that he's in the room with you right now. That's why the vail in the temple was torn in two when Jesus died; there's no separation between God and man that man doesn't decide to create.
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That right there proves how christians view women as useless pieces of trash. Mary should have killed her baby to begin with. If you don't view the mother as anything important that that is a pretty big issue there. You should thank her for not committing suicide after learning she had a baby with a father that is unknown.

If Gods sperm in mary isn't holy then what is? That doesn't make Jesus holy either. God is setting a great example here, get women pregnant and leave them for good while at the same time calling them worthless. Good work god, you have set a great example on society because they seem to be following the lead!
That right there proves how christians view women as useless pieces of trash. Mary should have killed her baby to begin with. If you don't view the mother as anything important that that is a pretty big issue there. You should thank her for not committing suicide after learning she had a baby with a father that is unknown.

If Gods sperm in mary isn't holy then what is? That doesn't make Jesus holy either. God is setting a great example here, get women pregnant and leave them for good while at the same time calling them worthless. Good work god, you have set a great example on society because they seem to be following the lead!
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