You heard me.

One of the more interesting ideologies is the destruction of capitalism, the mighty dollar, and the ruling elite through today's available technology, and using it to automate our necessities so that all can thrive, and we can work together for scientific advancements for humanity as opposed to for a profit, meaning more human centered, selfless services, and less of a cruel push by corporations to destroy our world with crushing greed and abuse of natural resources. A post scarcity economy is exactly what we need.

The lower class don't deserve to starve to death because they can't afford food. The elderly don't need to die in debt and leave it for their children. Wouldn't you say that the world would be a better place without money?

Money is unnecessary, evil, and technically, it isn't real. Up until the beginning of the 19th century, money, or legal tender, had a noted value in gold. Around came the Second World War, and suddenly the vast quantities of gold in the world were seized, and money lost it's value. Now, inflation continues to rise because of the increase in fractional reserves, the creation of debt that governments hold with banks, and the increasing gap between the rich and the poor, the system we live in is either going to begin to locally kill the impoverished or cease to exist.

We see it happening in Africa, and the way automation is being used for the benefit of the rich and not the world may soon have this havoc spread.

With advancements in technology that are projected for the next 15 years, we will see places like banks, restaurants, and even taxis lose their front line service in favor of computers. We see this through ATMs replacing bank tellers, McDonald's losing counter service in favor of kiosks, and self driving cars designed by companies such as Uber, Google, and Apple.

So with all of this moving forward, what about the millions of people that are going to lose their jobs and livelihoods? Where's the money going to go that was saved by not paying workers?

These people will be left with nothing and the rich will have everything to gain. Talk about a gap between rich and poor then. Our children will never even stand a chance.

However, with these advancements in technology, it could go a different way. The working class could revolt against the elite, and we could use their greed enamored tech for our gain instead of theirs.

Imagine a world where you wouldn't have to work to provide for yourself. If all you needed was given to you, and all you wanted was to be earned. Where luxuries were worked for with important work, and anybody could do it, but the days of menial tasks were left to machines that we take care of.

With all of the pollution and torture we cause our Earth because of our incessant need for wealth, how the gas and oil companies make active attempts to shut down innovative environmental ideals such as the Maglev train, solar/wind/water powered energy sources, or the electric car. Our Earth would become healthier, our transportation would be faster, and our carbon footprint would get closer to zero.

And this could all happen if the world gave up on our system of greed and lust for power, caused by our reckless use of a monetary points system. Lives would be saved, the environment can be changed back to before the elite's attempt at destroying it, and our lives would be improved by an incalculable amount.

If you hold any interest in what I just said, check out the Zeitgeist film trilogy, or read up on The Venus Project.

Why aren't you on board the automation train? Do you think there are any issues with this ideology?

I'm all for it. Are you?

*nods in agreement whilst clapping*

(I sat here for 5 minutes typing various replies and sentences and then just reverted to that, this seems more like a speech than anything with a ton of rhetorical questions... if you want an actual in depth response let me know)

Sonicmcmuffin : I'd like actual discussion but I'll be happy with the clapping.

Rhetoricals are my way of explaining myself. I just said a lot of ridiculous stuff that desperately needed a lot of explanation and information that I honestly half assed but I got the jist in.

Also, let me know if I'm way too far down the socialist/communist rabbit hole. I'm employed with a socialist financial institution.

I mean, I guess, but communism never works. so even if it was fully automated and in space it would still suck.

so no, I'm not all for it. I think we should deport the space communism back to earth.

The problem with this is that it's not entirely "the elite" that is at fault. Greed and lust for power is something that is in human nature. It's not a small amount of people ruling a population that ultimately wants coexistence, peace and mutual prosperity, but a small percentage of regular people that succeed. If you take anyone and put them in charge, they're going to screw up and go power mad, even if they have the purist intentions. It's actually a very small amount of people that are the well meaning ideologues, and even they would be subject to man's corrupt nature. Totalitarians are right in thinking that power has to be whole and absolute to exist, and that's why power has to be destroyed. What do you have left when there's no authority? Anarchy, which isn't inherently bad. The problem with Anarchy is the fact that you now have (using the US as an example) roughly 350 million people either doing whatever they want at the expense of others and not facing any consequences or trying to establish a new authority, setting themselves at the top.

How exactly would this Communist utopia be sustained? Who's going to hold it together? Is this meant as a small scale cultural experiment or with globalization in mind? Globalism can't work under any circumstances. There are too many different ways of thinking, too many cultures that work well for their own people, but are not at all compatible with other cultures and ideologies. The only way to have any amount of unity is to have it on a community level or to oppress or erase other cultures, and the latter just isn't ethical.

The problem isn't the 1% or any given political system or philosophy or religion, but just human nature. That's why I believe it's better for like minded individuals to just keep to their own, have their own culture and system, leave everyone else alone and be left alone. We're better off divided.

I do not think you are too far down the rabbit hole yet.. Simply because you are self aware of your opinions and are not declaring them as factual yet.
I shall try to do this simply.. By doing the non simple which is to answer the rhetorical lol....

Wouldn't you say that the world would be a better place without money?
Well firstly, I think that if money was not used it would simply be something else... Food, goods, technology, people... Mainly commerce of trade that have already happened in the existence of humanity. Animals even trade things though usually it is part of that species mating patterns... not a lot unlike humans really  lol.  I think without money people would just be exploited more and maybe even in a more barbaric way...  We won't truly know until it actually ever happens though.

what about the millions of people that are going to lose their jobs and livelihoods?
Well firstly  it would be impossible at this current moment in time to have a workplace devoid of human workers... even if it is something like A security guard or you know the endless amount of computer engineers/ mechanic that would be needed to maintain all those computers. What I would hope is that if the jobs did rapidly disappear in one sector they would increase in another sector.  Also you never know they might at one point just enforce everyone to do community work instead of a paid job Where everyone has to do their bit to help the community and to help maintain it as well.

Where's the money going to go by not paying workers?
Probably to the people who created the hardware and software needed for the machines to function properly. Assuming that they actually make a profit after the Research and Development costs... They would also invest some of the profit made into future improvements of the product.. Also towards new ideas... the rest after taxes and the such... would go to shareholders... and then its up to them where it goes.. Do they invest in other companies or do they waste it on luxuries.

Why aren't you on board the automation train?
Simply put it makes no difference to me as an individual. I already live on less than a working wage. So my situation will only get worse and honestly, as long as I can keep myself fed and have Internet I don't care... Which is still a lot better than some people in the world today... so yeah... I have no problem with people trying to make things more automated.. As long as it's viable and worthwhile... and the market is actually competitive as well. You don't want a sole company as your only provider of a specific thing... I mean America already has stuff like it like Internet providers and the such. Which leads to inflated prices because everyone in this day and age wants/needs the Internet and you can charge insane prices because you're the only one to go to. 

Do you think there are any issues with this ideology?
I don't think there's anything wrong with a lot of ideologies honestly. I think the core principle of this is "What if you know people.... were like good to each other and cared about what happens to others" and the sad truth behind it is that people only truly band together through misery or terror.. Humans are generally selfish creatures and as animals to begin with, we tend to solely focus on our own and  maybe our family's welfare.. 

I actually do think it is a plausible ideology though... but for it to happen I would expect there to be a long period of misery, before it actually started to take common place among society... and the issue would be is that when the misery period ends... what will happen after that... A stable community not restrained by money... or people arguing that their value is worth more than someone Else's in getting them out of misery.