Killing is a very harsh thing in life. I wish people didn't have that killer mentality, but it happens.

For me, I wouldn't do it regardless. If I knock them unconscious, that's fine. Killing the person is a different matter.

Mynamescox44 :

Holy crap. You're scary.

If we all have to die eventually, shouldn't we enjoy as much time as we have? Also, are you admitting that you will kill if you get payed...?

*Finger hovers over emergency button on phone*

(Joking, but really. I would like to know more in details. You can PM me if you don't want to share it in public. Or if you don't want to share it at all, that's fine too).

He breaks into my home,what is to stop him from killing me to get away with his crime? He is a criminal,he does not deserve my pity or forgiveness.

Oldschool777 :

That's why I said if he wasn't going to hurt you or a loved one. If he's trying to kill you, yes, protect yourself by any means necessary. But if he's only there to rob you, not hurt anyone, I suggest the police, or beat him up, but don't kill him.

Besides, killing him in that situation would make you a criminal as well.

Mynamescox44 : I seriously hope you're not serious about that.


Only in extreme circumstances, and circumstances that I don't think I'll be in. And, then if I did actually kill someone it would haunt me for the rest of my life even if I killed a criminal.

All these people, especially the young ones, are sitting here saying, "Yes, I can do this," and I have to laugh at most of you. Maybe not laugh. I roll my eyes.

I was trained by the U.S. government in the most efficient ways of killing other human beings. I've learned the methods, the strategies, the anatomy and physiology of the human body to generate death as quickly as possible.

It's a hard, ugly thing to do. I have worked with folks who, even after expressing an interest, a desire, and having the tools and know-how, still couldn't do it because of a lifetime of putting value on not killing other people.

I'd be interested, really interested, to watch every one of you people pick up a knife and stab someone in the throat. I bet a huge percentage, over 90% of those who said, "Yes, to defend loved ones, etc" couldn't do it. You would fight people off, or drive them away, but pursuit and murder? I doubt it is in most people of here.

Of course, there are the few folks who don't understand empathy. I'm confident social disorders make it easier. But killing is the ugliest, worst thing in the world. I don't anyone can honestly answer unless they've done it.

I think I probably could. It's in our blood. Randomly stabbing a person to death just to see if you can might not be possible but put them in a warlike situation and history has shown that people will find the resolve. I also think some ways of killing people are easier than others. Stabbing them to death is probably harder than detonating a bomb from down the street.

I am defending my home,he was breaking in. Like I said,who is to say he would not kill me to keep me quiet or to eliminate a witness,huh?

Ghostbear,I do agree with you that it would be tough to do,even with years of training. But most people do possess that killer instinct when their life or a loved one's life is in danger. When that situation arises,we can block out our rational side and go on pure adrenaline to end a life. You have to remember,in a fight,in life or death,most of us will choose life and we will do what it takes to stay alive,even taking a life.

Vincent,there have always been easier methods of killing people. War and science are linked. The closer the range is,the less likely to cause death is,makes it harder.

I honestly don't think I am capable of killing someone. First of all, I get very guilty for far less serious things, like taking jokes a little bit too far, showing up 2 minutes late to an event, etc etc. There's no way I would be able to take someone's life and live with myself, even if I was defending myself or a loved one. In my eyes, I'd rather die myself than to live with the guilt of take someone's life. Even if I didn't guilty really easily, I'm too much of a wuss to actually kill someone. I don't think I'd be strong enough to overpower someone and kill them ,unless I was using a gun or something. I'm also pretty analytical in my important actions, if that's the right word. I think of all the possible consequences because I'm paranoid as heck, and I'd eventually come to the conclusion that I shouldn't kill. 

Ghostbear1111 : Oh my gosh, we have agreed on 2 things. Is this a problem, lol?

I'll have to say, it is depending on the situation that I am facing and if the person can be taken down by non-lethal methods, that will be the first thing for me to do. If it is to the point where... taking life, is the only choice then I will not hesitate to take the person down. I would not care if it is to defend my family, friends, or a completely stranger, I will do everything in my power to stop the person.

Everybody deserves to live, which is why I mentioned that if the person can be stopped without taking life then that is the way I will go for.

Ghostbear1111 :

I mean, it's not like we WANT to do it. xP

I fully believe it's acceptable to kill for self defense or during times of war, which I guess is the same thing. However, if I was in a situation that would require such actions, there'd probably be some amount of psychological trauma from other aspects.

Well, as someone who has suffered minor PTSD, yeah. Pretty sure I could kill if it came down to it. But only if entirely necessary for the protection of myself or my family.

Having suffered from PTSD for a few years I began to realize after my traumatic experience that I was less in control of myself than I had been before and have worked very hard to cut down on any violent behaviors or attitude I had before; It's at the point where I am generally a very relaxed and easy going but calm and composed individual. Unless someone actually manages to hit the wrong buttons set me off I suppose.

Oldschool777 : Well, the criminal is a person. A human being. With dreams, ambitions, fears, and emotions. They're not hell bent on being evil. They're not simple NPC's in your video game.

They are a human being.

Most people who break in don't do it because they're evil. Hell, I'd wager more than 95% of robbers don't do it because they want to, but I don't know the statistics.

They do it because of necessity. They don't want to, they just have to.

Killing someone over something like that is not only an extreme exaggeration, but I'm pretty sure it's a crime, since your life wasn't in danger per say, it was a simple break in.

I feel like a big part of me would be reluctant to it. Scared even. But, to be honest, I think I could and would. There are many reasons why I'd do it but, all would be in willingness to protect my life or that of my loved ones. In this crazy world, there's just no way around it and chances of being faced with that decision seem to become more and more common. 

People,use your heads for a minute. I know I am going to catch hell for this but think about it. It is 2 AM,you hear a rattling and then your front door is forced in. The guy is armed and tells you to hand over your cash while he cleans you out. He will more than likely be armed and making sure you cannot call the police. What is to stop him from putting a bullet in your head to keep you quiet? Do you honestly think the police will reach you in time to stop him? The answer is NO. He will put a bullet in your head because you chose to be unarmed. The police do not stop a crime,they merely gather information after the crime happens.

Oldschool777 : That is quite honestly the stupidest, most uneducated and ignorant thing I've heard all day.

I'm done talking to you.

(Inb4 everyone praising oldschool for "Sticking with his opinions" my god Vizzed is full of idiots)

Oldschool777 :

Which is why we were using an example. If he wasn't armed with anything, and you were not in danger, and you kill him on purpose, that is a crime.

Also, sometimes the police do stop a crime. It's a matter of getting there quickly enough.

Maguc,maybe you are upset because I beat you at your own game. Tell me how your opinion saves you when someone breaks into your home,steals your stuff and then to ensure no loose ends,puts a bullet in your head.

Lunar,I highly doubt a person would be unarmed if he came to rob someone. I am already in danger if someone breaks into my home. I would have zero issue killing someone that breaks into my home. Maybe,if you live next door to the police station or a Dunkin Donuts.

Look,everyone is entitled to their own opinions. I just choose not to play a victim. But if some of you honestly believe the police will protect you,then by all means,live by that philosophy. I just believe that an armed citizen is an empowered citizen.

Oldschool777 : Yeah man I'll totally do that since it happens on a daily basis. Getting broken in and shot in the face as I type this comment.

Also how did you "beat me at my own game"? I've literally been countering you're arguments and all you've done is ignore it and repeat what you've said already. That's not a discussion. Actually try to respond what we're saying to you, please?

"An armed citizen is an empowered citizen"
Well, no. A person having a weapon doesn't make them empowered. They can (and most likely) will make a dumb decision with it. Most people who own a gun don't know how to use them. Do you realize how hard it is to use a weapon? You can't expect a random person to just pick up a gun and have a trained sniper's aim.

Plus, using you as an example, people exaggerate. "Guy broke in my home? Welp, gotta kill him." yeah no, that's a crime. You're hurting a person who hasn't harmed you. Self defense is different from killing someone who broke into your house. If that person has you locked up, tortured, and is beating you, that's different.
If all they've done is broken into your house, then that's not self defense, it's still a crime.

That's like saying I won a horse race because I bought a book on horses.