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Extreme Rules Predictions

Styles vs Reigns - this is another moment where I want to say AJ can win the title but being no DQ I see a lot of interference resulting in Reigns winning. And even if AJ wins it will be "tarnished" somehow because it took interference for AJ to beat Reigns. WWE will find a way to ruin it. Still, I am going to guess AJ will win this one.

Charlotte vs Natalya - honestly at this point I want Charlotte to lose. Not that I think Natalya is "better" or anything but Charlotte has had the title for long enough. There needs to be some change-up in the division. With Ric Flair at ringside this is either a chance to solidify Charlotte as the real deal or a chance to give Natalya the title. I'm hoping for a Natalya win.

IC Title 4-way (Owens, Cesaro, Miz, Zayn) - can my guess be anyone but Miz? I would take any of the other 3 guys winning over Miz. Obviously a Cesaro or Zayn win would be good but Owens would be good as a champ as well.

Ambrose vs Jericho (Asylum Match) - so, a cage match with weapons.... I'm going to guess that Ambrose will win this but I could see Jericho getting the win in order to keep the rivalry going for another PPV.

New Day vs Vaudevillains - I expect the Vaudevillains to win this one so that when Enzo returns from injury they can feud with the Vaudevillains. If Vaudevillains win there might be a short feud as part of the rematch clause stuff they always do and then I except Enzo back to go for the titles. If he isn't back then maybe the Dudleys or Uso's might get a shot in the meantime. Still, I think Vaudevillains will win.

Kalisto vs Rusev - this is a tough one to call. Kalisto is being made out to be the giant killer so I could see him winning but I almost think Rusev could use a dominant title. He's been watered down a LOT since losing to John Cena a year ago.

Ziggler vs Corbin - this one could go either way. I'll guess that Corbin will win this match (since he lost at the last PPV).
Extreme Rules Predictions

Styles vs Reigns - this is another moment where I want to say AJ can win the title but being no DQ I see a lot of interference resulting in Reigns winning. And even if AJ wins it will be "tarnished" somehow because it took interference for AJ to beat Reigns. WWE will find a way to ruin it. Still, I am going to guess AJ will win this one.

Charlotte vs Natalya - honestly at this point I want Charlotte to lose. Not that I think Natalya is "better" or anything but Charlotte has had the title for long enough. There needs to be some change-up in the division. With Ric Flair at ringside this is either a chance to solidify Charlotte as the real deal or a chance to give Natalya the title. I'm hoping for a Natalya win.

IC Title 4-way (Owens, Cesaro, Miz, Zayn) - can my guess be anyone but Miz? I would take any of the other 3 guys winning over Miz. Obviously a Cesaro or Zayn win would be good but Owens would be good as a champ as well.

Ambrose vs Jericho (Asylum Match) - so, a cage match with weapons.... I'm going to guess that Ambrose will win this but I could see Jericho getting the win in order to keep the rivalry going for another PPV.

New Day vs Vaudevillains - I expect the Vaudevillains to win this one so that when Enzo returns from injury they can feud with the Vaudevillains. If Vaudevillains win there might be a short feud as part of the rematch clause stuff they always do and then I except Enzo back to go for the titles. If he isn't back then maybe the Dudleys or Uso's might get a shot in the meantime. Still, I think Vaudevillains will win.

Kalisto vs Rusev - this is a tough one to call. Kalisto is being made out to be the giant killer so I could see him winning but I almost think Rusev could use a dominant title. He's been watered down a LOT since losing to John Cena a year ago.

Ziggler vs Corbin - this one could go either way. I'll guess that Corbin will win this match (since he lost at the last PPV).
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Uso’s vs Anderson and Gallows – pretty good match so far. Hard hitting match. I love that the Uso’s are getting booed and Anderson and Gallows are getting cheered. PPV crowds are so much better than average crowds. Anderson and Gallows win! Not sure if this is good or bad. Hopefully it isn’t giving people half of what they want so they can allow Reigns to win later. I don’t think I made a prediction for this match.

Rusev vs Kalisto – I don’t really care about this match. I do like that Kalisto is using kicks and speed to attack. Didn’t take long for Rusev to gain an advantage in the match though. Going to be a lot of ground and pound offence now. Ouch! That spine first off the apron was rough. And that Acolyte (I think that is what it is called) was insane! Glad Rusev won that one. 1-0 on my predictions so far.

New Day vs Vaudevillains – I think I said that the Vaudevillains would win this one. I’m not sure if the Vaudevillains are big enough heels to win the titles from the New Day though. Whoa! Big E through the middle rope! Kingston just cheated! New Day won! I’m actually a big surprised by that one. I wasn’t expecting them to win. Still a good showing but maybe with Cass hurt they are making this last a bit longer. Big E looks hurt. Still, I’m 1-1 on predictions now.

Fatal 4-way for IC Title – I think my only prediction on this one was for a new champ. As long as Miz doesn’t win then I’m happy. Of course, Marise gets in the way of the finish. Cesaro had it won. Zayn saved it from Cesaro winning! I really wish he hadn’t done that. Cesaro as champ would have been great. HOLY CRAP! I have no idea what that was but it looked AMAZING! Flip into a power bomb then roll through into a power bomb against Cesaro. That was incredible! That should have ended the match. That was by far the spot of the night. NO! Do not let Miz win! Oh good. Cesaro kicked out. This match has been awesome so far. NO! Miz won the match. Seriously? Anyone but Miz would have been good. 1-2 on the night now for me 

Ambrose vs Jericho – I didn’t really have much to say about this match but the spot into the thumb tacks was rough. Jericho’s elbow looked rough. Ambrose winning the match was not a surprise though. And 2-2 now! Seriously, Jericho is covered in thumb tacks. That is nasty!

Natalya vs Charlotte – I’m not sure how but I see someone running in to help Charlotte. She will have something up her sleeve in order to win this match. I’m still hopeful that Natalya will win but I can easily see Charlotte winning somehow. Called it! Although Ric Flair? Dana Brook…. instead of Ric Flair…. I’m really confused. I did call it though. There it is! Someone else came to the ring to help Charlotte. 2-3 on predictions for the night.

Reigns vs Styles – this match will likely go as expected for a lot of it. Lots of fighting with weapons and in the crowd and what not. Here comes the time through the table. Styles Clash on the table would be awesome. Not surprised they didn’t do it though. That move is dangerous enough on its own let alone through a table. Whoa! Back drop through a table! That was pretty awesome. “You still suck” chant coming from the crowd. I love it! So, the big spot at the table has been done and now it is time for someone to interfere. Wow, that was a pretty cool move by Reigns. Razor’s Edge to start and then into a sit out power bomb. That was pretty awesome. However, a single punch is going to do it! Styles flipped Reigns when he tried to do the super man punch. That was pretty crazy looking. Wow! Reigns caught AJ trying to do a hurricanrana and started swinging him into the apron and wall and then thrown into the table. That was pretty awesome as well. I’m a bit surprised that no one has interfered yet either. Reigns through the barricade! Whoa! Superman punch while on the top rope! Styles has taken a beating tonight. Anderson and Gallows showed up to attack Reigns! This moment does make sense. Boo! Styles should have won right there. Uso’s are coming! If Reigns wins here I’m going to be pissed. Oh good! Styles kicked out! Anderson, Gallows and Uso’s all seem to be out of the match now. Styles Clash!!!!!!!!! That’s wrong. You shouldn’t kick out from that move. And here comes the win for Reigns. Yes! AJ kicked him! Styles Clash on the chair! NO! Uso’s! Are you kidding me?!?!?!?!? Use the chair and pound the crap out of him! YES! Of course! Reigns spears at the very end even after everything that happened….. such a joke ending. I’m not surprised at all but this ending pisses me off. 2 right 4 wrong for the night 

SETH ROLLINS!!!!!!!!!!! That’s why! There had to be a reason why AJ lost the match. Bringing back Rollins tonight was a good reason for that. Too bad it couldn’t be Rollins vs Styles though. That match would actually be good.
Uso’s vs Anderson and Gallows – pretty good match so far. Hard hitting match. I love that the Uso’s are getting booed and Anderson and Gallows are getting cheered. PPV crowds are so much better than average crowds. Anderson and Gallows win! Not sure if this is good or bad. Hopefully it isn’t giving people half of what they want so they can allow Reigns to win later. I don’t think I made a prediction for this match.

Rusev vs Kalisto – I don’t really care about this match. I do like that Kalisto is using kicks and speed to attack. Didn’t take long for Rusev to gain an advantage in the match though. Going to be a lot of ground and pound offence now. Ouch! That spine first off the apron was rough. And that Acolyte (I think that is what it is called) was insane! Glad Rusev won that one. 1-0 on my predictions so far.

New Day vs Vaudevillains – I think I said that the Vaudevillains would win this one. I’m not sure if the Vaudevillains are big enough heels to win the titles from the New Day though. Whoa! Big E through the middle rope! Kingston just cheated! New Day won! I’m actually a big surprised by that one. I wasn’t expecting them to win. Still a good showing but maybe with Cass hurt they are making this last a bit longer. Big E looks hurt. Still, I’m 1-1 on predictions now.

Fatal 4-way for IC Title – I think my only prediction on this one was for a new champ. As long as Miz doesn’t win then I’m happy. Of course, Marise gets in the way of the finish. Cesaro had it won. Zayn saved it from Cesaro winning! I really wish he hadn’t done that. Cesaro as champ would have been great. HOLY CRAP! I have no idea what that was but it looked AMAZING! Flip into a power bomb then roll through into a power bomb against Cesaro. That was incredible! That should have ended the match. That was by far the spot of the night. NO! Do not let Miz win! Oh good. Cesaro kicked out. This match has been awesome so far. NO! Miz won the match. Seriously? Anyone but Miz would have been good. 1-2 on the night now for me 

Ambrose vs Jericho – I didn’t really have much to say about this match but the spot into the thumb tacks was rough. Jericho’s elbow looked rough. Ambrose winning the match was not a surprise though. And 2-2 now! Seriously, Jericho is covered in thumb tacks. That is nasty!

Natalya vs Charlotte – I’m not sure how but I see someone running in to help Charlotte. She will have something up her sleeve in order to win this match. I’m still hopeful that Natalya will win but I can easily see Charlotte winning somehow. Called it! Although Ric Flair? Dana Brook…. instead of Ric Flair…. I’m really confused. I did call it though. There it is! Someone else came to the ring to help Charlotte. 2-3 on predictions for the night.

Reigns vs Styles – this match will likely go as expected for a lot of it. Lots of fighting with weapons and in the crowd and what not. Here comes the time through the table. Styles Clash on the table would be awesome. Not surprised they didn’t do it though. That move is dangerous enough on its own let alone through a table. Whoa! Back drop through a table! That was pretty awesome. “You still suck” chant coming from the crowd. I love it! So, the big spot at the table has been done and now it is time for someone to interfere. Wow, that was a pretty cool move by Reigns. Razor’s Edge to start and then into a sit out power bomb. That was pretty awesome. However, a single punch is going to do it! Styles flipped Reigns when he tried to do the super man punch. That was pretty crazy looking. Wow! Reigns caught AJ trying to do a hurricanrana and started swinging him into the apron and wall and then thrown into the table. That was pretty awesome as well. I’m a bit surprised that no one has interfered yet either. Reigns through the barricade! Whoa! Superman punch while on the top rope! Styles has taken a beating tonight. Anderson and Gallows showed up to attack Reigns! This moment does make sense. Boo! Styles should have won right there. Uso’s are coming! If Reigns wins here I’m going to be pissed. Oh good! Styles kicked out! Anderson, Gallows and Uso’s all seem to be out of the match now. Styles Clash!!!!!!!!! That’s wrong. You shouldn’t kick out from that move. And here comes the win for Reigns. Yes! AJ kicked him! Styles Clash on the chair! NO! Uso’s! Are you kidding me?!?!?!?!? Use the chair and pound the crap out of him! YES! Of course! Reigns spears at the very end even after everything that happened….. such a joke ending. I’m not surprised at all but this ending pisses me off. 2 right 4 wrong for the night 

SETH ROLLINS!!!!!!!!!!! That’s why! There had to be a reason why AJ lost the match. Bringing back Rollins tonight was a good reason for that. Too bad it couldn’t be Rollins vs Styles though. That match would actually be good.
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Seth Rollins starting the show! He got a MASSIVE pop when he came out. I’m so glad Rollins is back. He talked a bit too much but he was gold in the ring. He got a “welcome back” chant to start out. He looks so happy to be back in the ring. He showed the picture of him giving Reigns the pedigree and the crowd started chanting “Thank you Rollins”. Now he’s calling them out on cheering him now but booing him before. Well, I guess Seth Rollins is a heel already. They must really think Roman Reigns is the face. Delusional. This feels like a missed opportunity. Rollins as a face taking out Reigns makes more sense. Vince must really want Reigns as the face. Now Shane is coming out. I wonder how this is going to play out. Shane is giving Rollins a title match at Money in the Bank. I’m actually a bit surprised that it is happening this quickly.

Zayn vs Sheamus – Well I know who I want to see win this match but I expect Sheamus will win. Zayn still belongs in the IC title scene and not in the heavyweight title scene. He’s too good of a worker right now to go for the heavyweight title. Wow! Zayn is in the MITB ladder match. He’ll be awesome in that match for sure!

Another New Day promo. And the Social Outcasts just came out to attack New Day. That’s interesting. I really hope they do not get a title shot but getting a match against New Day should help them a bit.

New Day vs Social Outcasts – this match wasn’t much of a surprise. New Day won against the Social Outcasts. And now the cake to the face for Heath Slater. Poor Heath. He’s so much better than this.

Miz vs Cesaro – not much to say about this match. It was solid and Cesaro won which wasn’t a surprise. With Miz holding the IC title there was no way he would be in the MITB match. Makes more sense to have him have his own match.

Crews vs Jericho – Jericho still has the bandages from the thumb tacks from the night before. That was nasty. This one I’m not sure about though. I can see Jericho being in the ladder match and I could see Crews being in it too. Well, looks like Jericho is going to be in the match. Hopefully they find something good for Crews to do in the PPV.

Cass is coming out now. Alone yet again. Hard to be in a tag team without your tag partner. Enzo is back! Glad that the injury didn’t keep him out any longer. Not the Dudley’s.

Cass vs Bubba – well, Enzo might be “back” but he’s not in the ring. He may not be 100% yet. Still, not surprised that Cass won the match. Dudley’s are unlikely to do much else but job out to the younger guys.

Oh good, a Charlotte promo. I’m so great even though I cheat every single time to win. At least she does make a good heel. She is easy to hate. Is Charlotte turning on Ric? That’s how it sounds. Oh, maybe not. Oh wait, maybe she is! Charlotte just told Ric to get out of the ring. She is turning on him now. It’s clear now. It’s about time honestly. Just wonder if he’ll mentor someone else or if he’ll just be gone. That was actually a pretty good promo. The frantic nature of the way Charlotte said things made it seem more real.

Ambrose vs Ziggler – poor Ziggler. He used to be so over and now he is so bland now. I remember his cash-in with the MITB and it was so huge. I don’t know what went wrong since then =/. I fully expect Ambrose will win this though. Putting him into the heavyweight title scene with Rollins back makes sense. The double cross body always looks so painful. Ambrose is going to MITB. Ziggler and Ambrose put together another great match. I really wish those guys could feud. That would be good.

Styles is coming out to do a promo. Looks like he doesn’t want “The Club” helping him out anymore. I’m fine with that honestly. They didn’t seem to help him out all that much. I think that could have been handled better though. They could have done it differently and made more of it.

Styles vs Owens – now THIS is a match I want to see. Hopefully it is allowed to just happen and no one gets in the way. “Headlock Master!” HAHA. Owens is awesome. Wow, Owens just hit a dropkick. That was pretty intense. I really love Owens in matches. He is funny but can also wrestle pretty well. I’ve pretty much just watched this match without saying too much about it. Kevin Owens is going to MITB over AJ. I’m not sure if I’m surprised by this or not. I wonder what AJ is going to do going forward if he’s not in the MITB match.
Raw May 23rd

Seth Rollins starting the show! He got a MASSIVE pop when he came out. I’m so glad Rollins is back. He talked a bit too much but he was gold in the ring. He got a “welcome back” chant to start out. He looks so happy to be back in the ring. He showed the picture of him giving Reigns the pedigree and the crowd started chanting “Thank you Rollins”. Now he’s calling them out on cheering him now but booing him before. Well, I guess Seth Rollins is a heel already. They must really think Roman Reigns is the face. Delusional. This feels like a missed opportunity. Rollins as a face taking out Reigns makes more sense. Vince must really want Reigns as the face. Now Shane is coming out. I wonder how this is going to play out. Shane is giving Rollins a title match at Money in the Bank. I’m actually a bit surprised that it is happening this quickly.

Zayn vs Sheamus – Well I know who I want to see win this match but I expect Sheamus will win. Zayn still belongs in the IC title scene and not in the heavyweight title scene. He’s too good of a worker right now to go for the heavyweight title. Wow! Zayn is in the MITB ladder match. He’ll be awesome in that match for sure!

Another New Day promo. And the Social Outcasts just came out to attack New Day. That’s interesting. I really hope they do not get a title shot but getting a match against New Day should help them a bit.

New Day vs Social Outcasts – this match wasn’t much of a surprise. New Day won against the Social Outcasts. And now the cake to the face for Heath Slater. Poor Heath. He’s so much better than this.

Miz vs Cesaro – not much to say about this match. It was solid and Cesaro won which wasn’t a surprise. With Miz holding the IC title there was no way he would be in the MITB match. Makes more sense to have him have his own match.

Crews vs Jericho – Jericho still has the bandages from the thumb tacks from the night before. That was nasty. This one I’m not sure about though. I can see Jericho being in the ladder match and I could see Crews being in it too. Well, looks like Jericho is going to be in the match. Hopefully they find something good for Crews to do in the PPV.

Cass is coming out now. Alone yet again. Hard to be in a tag team without your tag partner. Enzo is back! Glad that the injury didn’t keep him out any longer. Not the Dudley’s.

Cass vs Bubba – well, Enzo might be “back” but he’s not in the ring. He may not be 100% yet. Still, not surprised that Cass won the match. Dudley’s are unlikely to do much else but job out to the younger guys.

Oh good, a Charlotte promo. I’m so great even though I cheat every single time to win. At least she does make a good heel. She is easy to hate. Is Charlotte turning on Ric? That’s how it sounds. Oh, maybe not. Oh wait, maybe she is! Charlotte just told Ric to get out of the ring. She is turning on him now. It’s clear now. It’s about time honestly. Just wonder if he’ll mentor someone else or if he’ll just be gone. That was actually a pretty good promo. The frantic nature of the way Charlotte said things made it seem more real.

Ambrose vs Ziggler – poor Ziggler. He used to be so over and now he is so bland now. I remember his cash-in with the MITB and it was so huge. I don’t know what went wrong since then =/. I fully expect Ambrose will win this though. Putting him into the heavyweight title scene with Rollins back makes sense. The double cross body always looks so painful. Ambrose is going to MITB. Ziggler and Ambrose put together another great match. I really wish those guys could feud. That would be good.

Styles is coming out to do a promo. Looks like he doesn’t want “The Club” helping him out anymore. I’m fine with that honestly. They didn’t seem to help him out all that much. I think that could have been handled better though. They could have done it differently and made more of it.

Styles vs Owens – now THIS is a match I want to see. Hopefully it is allowed to just happen and no one gets in the way. “Headlock Master!” HAHA. Owens is awesome. Wow, Owens just hit a dropkick. That was pretty intense. I really love Owens in matches. He is funny but can also wrestle pretty well. I’ve pretty much just watched this match without saying too much about it. Kevin Owens is going to MITB over AJ. I’m not sure if I’m surprised by this or not. I wonder what AJ is going to do going forward if he’s not in the MITB match.
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So, I've heard this from multiple sources now and it looks like the Brand Split is back.

What does this mean for WWE? 5 hours of live TV in 2 days? I really hope Raw gets dumped down to 2 hours so there is a more reasonable show to watch each night. Doesn't make a lot of sense if Raw is 3 hours and Smackdown is 2 hours to somehow claim the rosters will be equal.

Also, what do you do about championships? Do all the champions float between shows or do you double up on some championship belts like before? Which championships stay on which show and what not.... lots to talk about but I'm not sure if this is a good or bad thing. We'll have to wait and find out.
So, I've heard this from multiple sources now and it looks like the Brand Split is back.

What does this mean for WWE? 5 hours of live TV in 2 days? I really hope Raw gets dumped down to 2 hours so there is a more reasonable show to watch each night. Doesn't make a lot of sense if Raw is 3 hours and Smackdown is 2 hours to somehow claim the rosters will be equal.

Also, what do you do about championships? Do all the champions float between shows or do you double up on some championship belts like before? Which championships stay on which show and what not.... lots to talk about but I'm not sure if this is a good or bad thing. We'll have to wait and find out.
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Just read today they are going to be doing a Draft and brand split again. According to Wrestle Zone and other News Sites. The plan is for a Raw and Smack Down draft. Each brand will have its own World Title so yes there will be two Titles again. Also one brand will have the IC belt the other one the USA Belt. From what I read the Tag Titles can be defended on either show. The McMahon's think this would be a good way to call up NXT talent.  

I think this is a good idea. The roster has become too big and lot of wrestlers are being pushed back. Having two brands would give other wrestlers to compete. Lets face it Raw has become the Reigns, AJ Styles, Jericho, and Ambrose Show. No offense to them but the other wrestlers deserve TV time. When WWE first did the brand split it worked out great. Raw had The Rock, Shawn Michaels, and Triple H. Smackdown allowed Randy Orton, and Edge blossom into super stars. Smack Down also became Taker's show and allowed him to continue his amazing run while developing younger stars. 

If it is done right I think the brand split could work well esp for the mid cards and younger talent. Also adding another world Title will allow more wrestlers to compete for the prize of their divisions. This probably won't happen but WWE could also use this to re-introduce the Television Championship for NXT wrestlers who need a quick push. 
Just read today they are going to be doing a Draft and brand split again. According to Wrestle Zone and other News Sites. The plan is for a Raw and Smack Down draft. Each brand will have its own World Title so yes there will be two Titles again. Also one brand will have the IC belt the other one the USA Belt. From what I read the Tag Titles can be defended on either show. The McMahon's think this would be a good way to call up NXT talent.  

I think this is a good idea. The roster has become too big and lot of wrestlers are being pushed back. Having two brands would give other wrestlers to compete. Lets face it Raw has become the Reigns, AJ Styles, Jericho, and Ambrose Show. No offense to them but the other wrestlers deserve TV time. When WWE first did the brand split it worked out great. Raw had The Rock, Shawn Michaels, and Triple H. Smackdown allowed Randy Orton, and Edge blossom into super stars. Smack Down also became Taker's show and allowed him to continue his amazing run while developing younger stars. 

If it is done right I think the brand split could work well esp for the mid cards and younger talent. Also adding another world Title will allow more wrestlers to compete for the prize of their divisions. This probably won't happen but WWE could also use this to re-introduce the Television Championship for NXT wrestlers who need a quick push. 
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tornadocam : great to hear there are going to be 2 heavyweight belts. That should help a lot.

I think the Women's division should remain with only 1 belt. There simply aren't enough women in the division right now to justify more belts. Still, this should give them time on both shows to have more matches and get more exposure.

I figured the IC title and US title would be show specific. They did that last time I believe.

I do hope that each show gets a fair group of wrestlers. I never watched Smackdown during the brand split because it always felt like the 2nd rate guys went there and the "top" guys were on Raw. I know there were some great matches that happened on Smackdown but it always felt like it was an afterthought to Raw.
tornadocam : great to hear there are going to be 2 heavyweight belts. That should help a lot.

I think the Women's division should remain with only 1 belt. There simply aren't enough women in the division right now to justify more belts. Still, this should give them time on both shows to have more matches and get more exposure.

I figured the IC title and US title would be show specific. They did that last time I believe.

I do hope that each show gets a fair group of wrestlers. I never watched Smackdown during the brand split because it always felt like the 2nd rate guys went there and the "top" guys were on Raw. I know there were some great matches that happened on Smackdown but it always felt like it was an afterthought to Raw.
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You know, both me and my brother talked about the whole brand split, and we both think it would help the WWE a whole lot, like improve their ratings and what not.

This is basically what we were thinking though, they will probably start doing this after SummerSlam in August with the Draft taking place sometime between SummerSlam and Night of Champions and start out basically a feud between both shows between SummerSlam and Survivor Series and it will basically be similar to Survivor Series 2005 where it was Team Raw vs. Team Smack Down.

Here's the thing that my brother told me that he didn't get about the Championship belts (which he does make a good point about), back in 2002 (After WrestleMania 18), the WWE retired the World Heavyweight Championship and only focus on the WWE Championship, that was until 5 months later in September (couple weeks before Unforgiven 2002) when they decided to bring back the WHC again, and go on with the brand split 9 months later. This is quite successful though which brings a lot of ratings to both shows. But why retire a title (twice) and bring it back months later.

Still, this would be quite interesting to see on how the brand splits work out, it did great during the Ruthless Aggression Era, it'll do great this time around, looking forward to it.

You know, both me and my brother talked about the whole brand split, and we both think it would help the WWE a whole lot, like improve their ratings and what not.

This is basically what we were thinking though, they will probably start doing this after SummerSlam in August with the Draft taking place sometime between SummerSlam and Night of Champions and start out basically a feud between both shows between SummerSlam and Survivor Series and it will basically be similar to Survivor Series 2005 where it was Team Raw vs. Team Smack Down.

Here's the thing that my brother told me that he didn't get about the Championship belts (which he does make a good point about), back in 2002 (After WrestleMania 18), the WWE retired the World Heavyweight Championship and only focus on the WWE Championship, that was until 5 months later in September (couple weeks before Unforgiven 2002) when they decided to bring back the WHC again, and go on with the brand split 9 months later. This is quite successful though which brings a lot of ratings to both shows. But why retire a title (twice) and bring it back months later.

Still, this would be quite interesting to see on how the brand splits work out, it did great during the Ruthless Aggression Era, it'll do great this time around, looking forward to it.

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   I mean... It's cool that some of you guy's are excited with WWE splitting the brand. Some of you might be thinking," Wow good thing's might happen with this split...." But as for me, I'm not getting my hopes up. I have a few problems with this brand split, I question it like for example:

  How can we be so sure that this is going to help the ratings? Push the other talent ? And how can we be sure that it will be great this time around? WWE has become so pussified nowadays, boring interviews, dull story lines, incredibly predictable outcomes when it comes to match's and worst of all, pushing the guys that people DON'T want to see pushed. Yes, It worked in the Ruthless Aggression Era but the way it is now, If they don't change those issues than I don't see people coming back or staying that very long.
  
  Now let's talk about Vince McMahon's and his two boy toys. You know who I'm talking about..... Captain Charisma and F#@k-Boy Buckthead. If they decide to put one of them on Raw and the other on Smack down and continue to push and shove them down every one's throats, than how on earth is that going to help the other talent when you have these two jamokes winning most of there matches? That is not helping the other talent what so ever.

  I don't like to be negative or a downer and ruin peoples enjoyments, but I just have no high expectations with this company anymore, sorry. Especially after what happen tonight with AJ, where he's most likely going to be feuding with F@#kboy  lol ..... wow! Come on Vince, first Jericho at Wrestle mania, Reigns 2x and now Cena? Went complete Face palm after that.
 

 




   I mean... It's cool that some of you guy's are excited with WWE splitting the brand. Some of you might be thinking," Wow good thing's might happen with this split...." But as for me, I'm not getting my hopes up. I have a few problems with this brand split, I question it like for example:

  How can we be so sure that this is going to help the ratings? Push the other talent ? And how can we be sure that it will be great this time around? WWE has become so pussified nowadays, boring interviews, dull story lines, incredibly predictable outcomes when it comes to match's and worst of all, pushing the guys that people DON'T want to see pushed. Yes, It worked in the Ruthless Aggression Era but the way it is now, If they don't change those issues than I don't see people coming back or staying that very long.
  
  Now let's talk about Vince McMahon's and his two boy toys. You know who I'm talking about..... Captain Charisma and F#@k-Boy Buckthead. If they decide to put one of them on Raw and the other on Smack down and continue to push and shove them down every one's throats, than how on earth is that going to help the other talent when you have these two jamokes winning most of there matches? That is not helping the other talent what so ever.

  I don't like to be negative or a downer and ruin peoples enjoyments, but I just have no high expectations with this company anymore, sorry. Especially after what happen tonight with AJ, where he's most likely going to be feuding with F@#kboy  lol ..... wow! Come on Vince, first Jericho at Wrestle mania, Reigns 2x and now Cena? Went complete Face palm after that.
 

 




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pebric : there is no guarantee it will help ratings. However, how can it not be a chance for more talent to get time? Instead of the same guys spending time on both shows you have to balance the time more evenly among separate rosters. New guys will have to get more time or the shows will be terrible.

I agree that things need to improve. The brand split is a desperate move to curry favor among older fans who might remember the old brand split somewhat fondly. If they are going to do this it needs to be done like a real brand split. The draft needs to mean something. It can't just be "random" because we all know what that means. The general managers have to actually make picks and there needs to be analysis or something. Make it seem like a real draft and give it legitimacy. That would make it more interesting.

You complain a lot about John Cena but if he hadn't been around for the last 10 years WWE would likely be struggling financially even more than they are now. I'm actually glad he hasn't been in the heavyweight title scene for a long time and likely won't be. If they have another heavyweight title he might go for it but with Reigns holding the only one right now I don't see that happening. Also, I agree that Reigns is getting a push he shouldn't have but I think that happened because Rollins got hurt. If Reigns had been pushed at the right time (not over Daniel Bryan but after he retired) then I doubt people would care but it seemed like WWE wanted to push Reigns over Bryan even though Bryan was the clear fan favorite. Hopefully with Rollins back he can take the title and then feud with Ambrose instead like it should have been.

Still, if the timing had been better I don't think people would be as upset about Reigns. He just got pushed at the wrong time.

I'm actually excited about Styles vs Cena with the Bullet Club back together. I hope they beat him up every week! Honestly Styles vs Cena should appeal to all the fans who like Styles or hate Cena. Hopefully beating up Cena will push Styles to actually be worthy of a title run of some sort.

I'm skeptical about the brand split being a success as well but I feel like it is at least a change of pace that could lead to new things coming. It pretty much has to give people more time on TV since the rosters are split and you have to fill 5 hours of TV and can't have guys on both shows all the time anymore.

Still, whether or not it will succeed we will have to wait and see. I'm always hopeful because right now there isn't much else wrestling wise that compares to WWE. Other companies are trying to do various things but they all pale in comparison.
pebric : there is no guarantee it will help ratings. However, how can it not be a chance for more talent to get time? Instead of the same guys spending time on both shows you have to balance the time more evenly among separate rosters. New guys will have to get more time or the shows will be terrible.

I agree that things need to improve. The brand split is a desperate move to curry favor among older fans who might remember the old brand split somewhat fondly. If they are going to do this it needs to be done like a real brand split. The draft needs to mean something. It can't just be "random" because we all know what that means. The general managers have to actually make picks and there needs to be analysis or something. Make it seem like a real draft and give it legitimacy. That would make it more interesting.

You complain a lot about John Cena but if he hadn't been around for the last 10 years WWE would likely be struggling financially even more than they are now. I'm actually glad he hasn't been in the heavyweight title scene for a long time and likely won't be. If they have another heavyweight title he might go for it but with Reigns holding the only one right now I don't see that happening. Also, I agree that Reigns is getting a push he shouldn't have but I think that happened because Rollins got hurt. If Reigns had been pushed at the right time (not over Daniel Bryan but after he retired) then I doubt people would care but it seemed like WWE wanted to push Reigns over Bryan even though Bryan was the clear fan favorite. Hopefully with Rollins back he can take the title and then feud with Ambrose instead like it should have been.

Still, if the timing had been better I don't think people would be as upset about Reigns. He just got pushed at the wrong time.

I'm actually excited about Styles vs Cena with the Bullet Club back together. I hope they beat him up every week! Honestly Styles vs Cena should appeal to all the fans who like Styles or hate Cena. Hopefully beating up Cena will push Styles to actually be worthy of a title run of some sort.

I'm skeptical about the brand split being a success as well but I feel like it is at least a change of pace that could lead to new things coming. It pretty much has to give people more time on TV since the rosters are split and you have to fill 5 hours of TV and can't have guys on both shows all the time anymore.

Still, whether or not it will succeed we will have to wait and see. I'm always hopeful because right now there isn't much else wrestling wise that compares to WWE. Other companies are trying to do various things but they all pale in comparison.
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So, MITB 2016....

The first 4 matches were basically throw away matches. New Day retains.... so stupid.

AJ vs Cena - loved this match and Styles won. Awesome.

MITB Match - Ambrose wins. I'm happy about this one.

Rusev vs Titus - not surprised Rusev won. Went longer than it should have but I'm glad Rusev kept the title. And he looked pretty strong.

Rollins vs Reigns - Rollins won! I was happy about this. Then Ambrose cashed in and won from Rollins.

So, every member of the shield held the title in 1 night. Ambrose is now the champion. Not really sure where it leaves all the members of this group.
So, MITB 2016....

The first 4 matches were basically throw away matches. New Day retains.... so stupid.

AJ vs Cena - loved this match and Styles won. Awesome.

MITB Match - Ambrose wins. I'm happy about this one.

Rusev vs Titus - not surprised Rusev won. Went longer than it should have but I'm glad Rusev kept the title. And he looked pretty strong.

Rollins vs Reigns - Rollins won! I was happy about this. Then Ambrose cashed in and won from Rollins.

So, every member of the shield held the title in 1 night. Ambrose is now the champion. Not really sure where it leaves all the members of this group.
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On Raw last week, Ambrose says "what if I won the MITB and cashed in to become champ?"
That's exactly what happened. WWE gave away some of the results to MITB.
When Ambrose won, I had a feeling he was going to cash in later that night.

My Thoughts on Money In The Bank 2016:
Pre-Show: The Pre-show was nothing but filler matches. Nothing interesting.

Match Card:
Fatal 4-Way Tag match for Tag titles: Good match, but I felt like the New Day retaining wasn't that great. I felt as if Enzo and Cass would win.
Lasted 11:43.

Women's tag team match: I felt as if this match was pointless. A Women's title match would have been better.
This match was only to build the relationship between Charlotte and Brooke. Lasted about 7 minutes.

AJ Styles vs John Cena: This match was awesome. It lasted over 24 minutes, and was almost flawless. The end of the match was a bit dusty, and it really didn't help AJ look strong.

The MITB match: One of the best MITB matches of all-time. It was one of the few MITB matches were I honestley didn't know who was going to win. I had the feeling that Ambrose was going to win, and he did. Very happy about that match. Lasted 21:38.

Rusev vs Titus O'Neil: Good match, and Rusev retains. Not surprised by that. Lasted around 8 minutes.

Seth Rollins vs Roman Reigns: Really awesome match. Seth Rollins wins, only to be interrupted by Dean cashing in, and winning.
It's great that Dean is the champion, they gave it to someone who wasn't really in the titles picture, aside from being in the MITB match.
Match lasted about 26 minutes, with the cash-in being about 10 seconds.
This COULD start a triple threat feud, and lead to a triple threat match for the title at Battleground.

OVERALL: Very good show. Three matches that lasted 20+ minutes, and Dean as champion. 8 out of 10 stars.
On Raw last week, Ambrose says "what if I won the MITB and cashed in to become champ?"
That's exactly what happened. WWE gave away some of the results to MITB.
When Ambrose won, I had a feeling he was going to cash in later that night.

My Thoughts on Money In The Bank 2016:
Pre-Show: The Pre-show was nothing but filler matches. Nothing interesting.

Match Card:
Fatal 4-Way Tag match for Tag titles: Good match, but I felt like the New Day retaining wasn't that great. I felt as if Enzo and Cass would win.
Lasted 11:43.

Women's tag team match: I felt as if this match was pointless. A Women's title match would have been better.
This match was only to build the relationship between Charlotte and Brooke. Lasted about 7 minutes.

AJ Styles vs John Cena: This match was awesome. It lasted over 24 minutes, and was almost flawless. The end of the match was a bit dusty, and it really didn't help AJ look strong.

The MITB match: One of the best MITB matches of all-time. It was one of the few MITB matches were I honestley didn't know who was going to win. I had the feeling that Ambrose was going to win, and he did. Very happy about that match. Lasted 21:38.

Rusev vs Titus O'Neil: Good match, and Rusev retains. Not surprised by that. Lasted around 8 minutes.

Seth Rollins vs Roman Reigns: Really awesome match. Seth Rollins wins, only to be interrupted by Dean cashing in, and winning.
It's great that Dean is the champion, they gave it to someone who wasn't really in the titles picture, aside from being in the MITB match.
Match lasted about 26 minutes, with the cash-in being about 10 seconds.
This COULD start a triple threat feud, and lead to a triple threat match for the title at Battleground.

OVERALL: Very good show. Three matches that lasted 20+ minutes, and Dean as champion. 8 out of 10 stars.
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BestGamer24 : I don't think the finish was supposed to make AJ look strong but to continue on the rivalry. AJ won so he can act cocky but in the end he knows he didn't win clean so will likely face Cena again some time to prove he can win. The match was good enough that I want to see them 1 on 1 again.

I loved the same thing about the MITB match. There were 4 legitimate winners (I didn't think Zayn or Jericho were real contenders). Still, awesome match and I think they got the winner right this time.

I thought the title match was a nice slow build. Went a teeny bit long (too many false finishes) but I went from not caring to almost jumping out of my chair when Rollins hit the pedigree when Reigns tried the spear. That move was awesome. That should have ended the match. Still, the match was great and Ambrose cashing in was predictable but also awesome because most people I've talked to think Ambrose should have been the champ instead of Reigns basically this whole time.

BestGamer24 : I don't think the finish was supposed to make AJ look strong but to continue on the rivalry. AJ won so he can act cocky but in the end he knows he didn't win clean so will likely face Cena again some time to prove he can win. The match was good enough that I want to see them 1 on 1 again.

I loved the same thing about the MITB match. There were 4 legitimate winners (I didn't think Zayn or Jericho were real contenders). Still, awesome match and I think they got the winner right this time.

I thought the title match was a nice slow build. Went a teeny bit long (too many false finishes) but I went from not caring to almost jumping out of my chair when Rollins hit the pedigree when Reigns tried the spear. That move was awesome. That should have ended the match. Still, the match was great and Ambrose cashing in was predictable but also awesome because most people I've talked to think Ambrose should have been the champ instead of Reigns basically this whole time.

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Raw June 20th

So.... opening segment was about as predictable as it could be. Rollins vs Reigns for the #1 contender spot as the main event for the night. Just curious to see who ends up winning. If Reigns wins he has to turn heel.

Zayn vs Owens - while I'm not complaining that these 2 guys are fighting tonight I do hope that they don't over do this rivalry. Using it as much as they have will make it old. Still, they are pretty much a lock for a good match every time. Zayn won the match with a roll-up which actually looked like it might hold someone down. Unlike a lot of the pins that happen. And Owens just attacked Zayn going up the ramp. This rivalry is never going to end

Oh no.... John Laurinitis. I hated this guy. Shane McMahon is out now trying to get rid of him. It seems like they are bringning out every former general manager to tease who is going to be General Manager. This is just sad.

Enzo and Big Cass are coming out now though which is good. Enzo and Shane doing the shoe thing was pretty fun.

Enzo and Cass vs VaudeVillains - I'm not sure how many times we have to see this before we get a contender that will take the titles from New Day. New Day doesn't need the titles anymore but some of the newer teams could benefit a lot from it. Enzo and Cass with the win. We'll see if they are in the title picture soon.

AJ Styles coming out to talk about the match with Cena. Styles is saying the match was tainted. He is right, but he still won and I think while it is a tainted victory it is still a win. Oh no.... a "public apology" for interfering in the match. Didn't we do this like a month ago with Jericho? Maybe it was 2 or 3 months ago. Still, not long enough to do this all over again. I like the line about giving John Cena an excuse. Styles beating Cena clean doesn't happen in Vince McMahon's world. And Cena is coming out so Gallows and Anderson can apologize to him too. So, the result of all of that is that Cena is facing Anderson.

Cena vs Anderson - is this actually going to be a match or is Cena just going to beat up Anderson the whole time. I don't think Anderson has made 1 offensive move the entire match. At least AJ and Gallows have shown up and are beating up on Cena now. Oh look, he isn't getting up from the Styles Clash. I'm looking forward to their next match.

Zack Ryder vs Corbin - uh oh, Ryder got a jobber entrance. This isn't going to last long. And it didn't. 5 minutes or so.

Ooooh - Wyatt family promo. They need to stay healthy because they are a great group and would love to see them back.

Paige vs Charlotte - Women's Title match. I don't see Paige winning but who knows. Maybe there will be a small title reign for someone else before Sasha Banks returns. Nope. Charlotte still wins with outside interference from Dana. And now some more beat down of Paige. WHOA. I wasn't expecting Sasha Banks to return already. I think they've wanted this match for a while.

Wyatts are back! New Day?!? I wonder if the Wyatts are going to get the tag titles. That'll be interesting. Any combination of the Wyatts would make a good team.

Rusev vs Titus - so, basically a brawl and Rusev ran off. Seems like they are keeping this rivalry going.

Rollins vs Reigns - to be fair this match was good last night so I can't complan they are doing it again. Reigns is not my favorite guy but in the ring with someone like Rollins you can look good no matter who you are. That's why in spite of hating his character I liked Rollins as the champ because he's SO good in the ring. So, double count-out. Why am I not surprised? Here comes Shane McMahon though. Triple Threat match at Battleground for the title. I saw it coming. No surprise at all. Michael Cole you moron. Dean Ambrose doesn't do the pedigree.... he does dirty deeds. Learn how to do your job! Fool.

Still, that should be a good match. Just as long as Reigns doesn't win I don't really care. I'm okay with Ambrose and Rollins passing the title back and forth between them for a while.
Raw June 20th

So.... opening segment was about as predictable as it could be. Rollins vs Reigns for the #1 contender spot as the main event for the night. Just curious to see who ends up winning. If Reigns wins he has to turn heel.

Zayn vs Owens - while I'm not complaining that these 2 guys are fighting tonight I do hope that they don't over do this rivalry. Using it as much as they have will make it old. Still, they are pretty much a lock for a good match every time. Zayn won the match with a roll-up which actually looked like it might hold someone down. Unlike a lot of the pins that happen. And Owens just attacked Zayn going up the ramp. This rivalry is never going to end

Oh no.... John Laurinitis. I hated this guy. Shane McMahon is out now trying to get rid of him. It seems like they are bringning out every former general manager to tease who is going to be General Manager. This is just sad.

Enzo and Big Cass are coming out now though which is good. Enzo and Shane doing the shoe thing was pretty fun.

Enzo and Cass vs VaudeVillains - I'm not sure how many times we have to see this before we get a contender that will take the titles from New Day. New Day doesn't need the titles anymore but some of the newer teams could benefit a lot from it. Enzo and Cass with the win. We'll see if they are in the title picture soon.

AJ Styles coming out to talk about the match with Cena. Styles is saying the match was tainted. He is right, but he still won and I think while it is a tainted victory it is still a win. Oh no.... a "public apology" for interfering in the match. Didn't we do this like a month ago with Jericho? Maybe it was 2 or 3 months ago. Still, not long enough to do this all over again. I like the line about giving John Cena an excuse. Styles beating Cena clean doesn't happen in Vince McMahon's world. And Cena is coming out so Gallows and Anderson can apologize to him too. So, the result of all of that is that Cena is facing Anderson.

Cena vs Anderson - is this actually going to be a match or is Cena just going to beat up Anderson the whole time. I don't think Anderson has made 1 offensive move the entire match. At least AJ and Gallows have shown up and are beating up on Cena now. Oh look, he isn't getting up from the Styles Clash. I'm looking forward to their next match.

Zack Ryder vs Corbin - uh oh, Ryder got a jobber entrance. This isn't going to last long. And it didn't. 5 minutes or so.

Ooooh - Wyatt family promo. They need to stay healthy because they are a great group and would love to see them back.

Paige vs Charlotte - Women's Title match. I don't see Paige winning but who knows. Maybe there will be a small title reign for someone else before Sasha Banks returns. Nope. Charlotte still wins with outside interference from Dana. And now some more beat down of Paige. WHOA. I wasn't expecting Sasha Banks to return already. I think they've wanted this match for a while.

Wyatts are back! New Day?!? I wonder if the Wyatts are going to get the tag titles. That'll be interesting. Any combination of the Wyatts would make a good team.

Rusev vs Titus - so, basically a brawl and Rusev ran off. Seems like they are keeping this rivalry going.

Rollins vs Reigns - to be fair this match was good last night so I can't complan they are doing it again. Reigns is not my favorite guy but in the ring with someone like Rollins you can look good no matter who you are. That's why in spite of hating his character I liked Rollins as the champ because he's SO good in the ring. So, double count-out. Why am I not surprised? Here comes Shane McMahon though. Triple Threat match at Battleground for the title. I saw it coming. No surprise at all. Michael Cole you moron. Dean Ambrose doesn't do the pedigree.... he does dirty deeds. Learn how to do your job! Fool.

Still, that should be a good match. Just as long as Reigns doesn't win I don't really care. I'm okay with Ambrose and Rollins passing the title back and forth between them for a while.
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If they want to make Barron Corbin appear as a threat, then they need to make him go after a Mid-card title.
Seriously,  He could be a good rival against Rusev if done properly.

Or He could even be a great  I.C champ.




As far as AJ Styles goes, I hope they aren't about to let Cena bury the club.  After what I saw with Karl Anderson,    It looks like Cena was about to grab his Shovel and use it.


The Shield Triple Threat needs to have  Ambrose go over, 
I'm sorry but if they pull a Fastlane 2016/ Survivor series 2015 on this match I don't think I'd be only one upset if they go with that finish.


And Ugh..
I Saw Corporate Kane a few weeks ago,    Don't have him go back to that gimmick...



Wyatts vs  New day is a very intriguing feud.
Hopefully they make the Wyatts get some wins.     The biggest issue with the Wyatt family is that they lost too many big matches.


I wish they had Mauro on Raw instead of Smackdown, he's a way better commentator then Cole.

If they want to make Barron Corbin appear as a threat, then they need to make him go after a Mid-card title.
Seriously,  He could be a good rival against Rusev if done properly.

Or He could even be a great  I.C champ.




As far as AJ Styles goes, I hope they aren't about to let Cena bury the club.  After what I saw with Karl Anderson,    It looks like Cena was about to grab his Shovel and use it.


The Shield Triple Threat needs to have  Ambrose go over, 
I'm sorry but if they pull a Fastlane 2016/ Survivor series 2015 on this match I don't think I'd be only one upset if they go with that finish.


And Ugh..
I Saw Corporate Kane a few weeks ago,    Don't have him go back to that gimmick...



Wyatts vs  New day is a very intriguing feud.
Hopefully they make the Wyatts get some wins.     The biggest issue with the Wyatt family is that they lost too many big matches.


I wish they had Mauro on Raw instead of Smackdown, he's a way better commentator then Cole.
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yeah, Corbin vs Ziggler went on way too long and didn't end up with him looking all that great. They had some good matches but it went longer than anyone wanted.

I think they are going to have it go 3 matches honestly. Cena will win the next one then there will be a rubber match which will hopefully see Styles go over but more than likely Cena. However, to call this Cena burying Styles is not true. For it to be a burial you have to make the other guy look terrible and Cena has not done that. Styles looked WAY better than Cena.

Yeah, Corporate Kane has returned as has John Laurinitis and Teddy Long. I expect to see a handful more former GM's over the next few weeks hoping to get that position back. I think the whole thing is a bit of a joke to keep the identities of the future Raw and Smackdown GM's a secret. They can bring lots of people in to possibly talk about them having that spot but still possibly keep it a secret.

Yeah, I can't stand how many times the Wyatt's have lost when they should be nearly unbeatable. If they do get the titles I hope they use the same format that the New Day uses and they pick whoever they want to defend the titles. You could have quite a few combinations to use if they did that.

Haha, anyone would be better than Cole. I don't know anyone that actually likes Cole. I think the main reason why he has the spot is he has been loyal. He put up with a LOT of crap from guys like the Rock over the years and now is reaping the benefits.
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yeah, Corbin vs Ziggler went on way too long and didn't end up with him looking all that great. They had some good matches but it went longer than anyone wanted.

I think they are going to have it go 3 matches honestly. Cena will win the next one then there will be a rubber match which will hopefully see Styles go over but more than likely Cena. However, to call this Cena burying Styles is not true. For it to be a burial you have to make the other guy look terrible and Cena has not done that. Styles looked WAY better than Cena.

Yeah, Corporate Kane has returned as has John Laurinitis and Teddy Long. I expect to see a handful more former GM's over the next few weeks hoping to get that position back. I think the whole thing is a bit of a joke to keep the identities of the future Raw and Smackdown GM's a secret. They can bring lots of people in to possibly talk about them having that spot but still possibly keep it a secret.

Yeah, I can't stand how many times the Wyatt's have lost when they should be nearly unbeatable. If they do get the titles I hope they use the same format that the New Day uses and they pick whoever they want to defend the titles. You could have quite a few combinations to use if they did that.

Haha, anyone would be better than Cole. I don't know anyone that actually likes Cole. I think the main reason why he has the spot is he has been loyal. He put up with a LOT of crap from guys like the Rock over the years and now is reaping the benefits.
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The main thing that ruined the Ziggler vs Corbin feud was the fact that  Corbin ended up losing to him.
I mean Corbin losing to someone like Samoa Joe back in NXT made sense because Joe was more skilled and was more fit to be the next NXT champion.

But Ziggler had nothing going for him.   He's pretty much been irrelevant as far as I'm concerned.    

He's basically out of place like The Miz was before he got the IC title.


No title shots,   It seems like WWE Creative doesn't know what to do with Ziggler.    

Vince: Hey guys I Got a great Idea, Put a random feud for Dolph Ziggler so we don't make him a champion.

WWE creative: How about the new Barron Corbin who won the Battle royal at mania?

Vince: Yeah that's good, we need him to be irrelevant because I'm too busy pushing Roman Reigns atm.
Lol.

Yeah the Wyatt's IMO should've been put over as the next set of Dark but Dominant superstars. Pretty much the guys who will take Kane and The Undertaker's place.
At least they aren't in Zack Ryder's position. 

The main thing that ruined the Ziggler vs Corbin feud was the fact that  Corbin ended up losing to him.
I mean Corbin losing to someone like Samoa Joe back in NXT made sense because Joe was more skilled and was more fit to be the next NXT champion.

But Ziggler had nothing going for him.   He's pretty much been irrelevant as far as I'm concerned.    

He's basically out of place like The Miz was before he got the IC title.


No title shots,   It seems like WWE Creative doesn't know what to do with Ziggler.    

Vince: Hey guys I Got a great Idea, Put a random feud for Dolph Ziggler so we don't make him a champion.

WWE creative: How about the new Barron Corbin who won the Battle royal at mania?

Vince: Yeah that's good, we need him to be irrelevant because I'm too busy pushing Roman Reigns atm.
Lol.

Yeah the Wyatt's IMO should've been put over as the next set of Dark but Dominant superstars. Pretty much the guys who will take Kane and The Undertaker's place.
At least they aren't in Zack Ryder's position. 

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SuperCrash64 : well, you can still have good feuds without titles. Just look at Cena and Styles. Their match at MITB was match of the night and it wasn't for anything.

However, I do think with the brand split that they are going to need more titles. You can't have 2 separate fosters competing for 1 mid-card title and 1 shared heavyweight title.
SuperCrash64 : well, you can still have good feuds without titles. Just look at Cena and Styles. Their match at MITB was match of the night and it wasn't for anything.

However, I do think with the brand split that they are going to need more titles. You can't have 2 separate fosters competing for 1 mid-card title and 1 shared heavyweight title.
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http://www.wwe.com/article/roman-reigns-suspended

Whoa! I wonder what this means for the triple threat match for Battleground.... it's more than 30 days away. Interesting.
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Whoa! I wonder what this means for the triple threat match for Battleground.... it's more than 30 days away. Interesting.
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So after Reading Roman's suspension this is bad for WWE's part.

I've come up with some possiblities that could occur thanks to this:

1) More Hate for roman.          Die hard Shield fans have been wanting to see a triple threat match for ages, but thanks to this suspension The Triple Threat match could be reduced to a singles match.    Thus equaling less viewers and more hate on Roman because this would be a main reason to change the Main-Event at Battleground.

2) They could keep the triple threat, but the buildup towards the match is gonna be bad.    With the triple threat buildup people are expecting to see Promos from all 3 former members of the shield, but thanks to Reigns being gone for 30 days due to wellness violation the match buildup is gonna have to be covered by Rollins and Ambrose.

3) No Evaluation for Roman if the match continues.     Roman is one of those guys that can wrestle good, but cannot cut a good promo to save his career.    This Triple threat match could be good potential for Reigns to pick up a thing or two towards his promo skills but not anymore.


This is bad for Reigns and Vince. Especially with how  Vince was booking him to be the next  Face of the WWE


So after Reading Roman's suspension this is bad for WWE's part.

I've come up with some possiblities that could occur thanks to this:

1) More Hate for roman.          Die hard Shield fans have been wanting to see a triple threat match for ages, but thanks to this suspension The Triple Threat match could be reduced to a singles match.    Thus equaling less viewers and more hate on Roman because this would be a main reason to change the Main-Event at Battleground.

2) They could keep the triple threat, but the buildup towards the match is gonna be bad.    With the triple threat buildup people are expecting to see Promos from all 3 former members of the shield, but thanks to Reigns being gone for 30 days due to wellness violation the match buildup is gonna have to be covered by Rollins and Ambrose.

3) No Evaluation for Roman if the match continues.     Roman is one of those guys that can wrestle good, but cannot cut a good promo to save his career.    This Triple threat match could be good potential for Reigns to pick up a thing or two towards his promo skills but not anymore.


This is bad for Reigns and Vince. Especially with how  Vince was booking him to be the next  Face of the WWE

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I missed reviewing Raw last night. Oh well, at least I can start Thursday.
My triple threat match at Battleground was correct, but you could have easily predicted that.

Roman's Suspension:
Well, that came out of nowhere. 30 days for a violation of the wellness policy.
I think that the triple threat match can still happen with good build up, even though Roman is suspended.
Seth could say that Roman getting suspended was good, because he doesn't have to see him for one whole month.
WWE Creative is really going to have to create some storyline that hypes up the triple threat.

I missed reviewing Raw last night. Oh well, at least I can start Thursday.
My triple threat match at Battleground was correct, but you could have easily predicted that.

Roman's Suspension:
Well, that came out of nowhere. 30 days for a violation of the wellness policy.
I think that the triple threat match can still happen with good build up, even though Roman is suspended.
Seth could say that Roman getting suspended was good, because he doesn't have to see him for one whole month.
WWE Creative is really going to have to create some storyline that hypes up the triple threat.

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