So, as I have not hidden it in the past, WWE Has ticked me off in the past couple of months to the point where I have said " Screw it, I am done. " 
I did however, leave a few WWE related pages liked on Facebook when I went through and cleaned up my liked pages a few weeks ago. 

Well, I was genuinely surprised to see that Undertaker came to whatever the Pay - Per - View was last night, and he is going to challenge to Brock Lesnar for Revenge at SumerSlam. 

This is going to bring me back to WWE, at least temporarily, for a few reasons. 

1. The Revenge Aspect - There hasn't been a good revenge aspect in ages. Granted, there is the thing going on with Bray Wyatt attacking Roman Reighns and using his daughter as a medium or something... I don't know. I haven't paid attention because that was the only interesting thing going on when I left, and it wasn't enough to keep me around.
The promotional video that I just watched made it seem like this is clearly about The Dead Man getting revenge on Brock Lesnar for " tarnishing " his legacy at WrestleMania 30, and that is just awesome with these 2 characters, who can tell a phenomenal story.  This also leads me into my next point... 

2. The Undertaker is Healthy - This is great news. The Undertaker is healthy enough to compete in a match other than his yearly WrestleMania match. Now, as this is not a WrestleMania or a retirement ( as far as I know ) match, you would think that the Undertaker would lose to Lesnar since Lesnar beat Taker at WM 30; I don't think that will be the case. I think Taker will win, thus forcing Brock Lesnar's and Paul Heyman's hand in challenging The Immortal One to a WrestleMania rematch, making it essentially a best out of 3 series. But, there will be a stipulation: If Undertaker loses, he has to retire. Now, I don't claim to know a lot about the wrestlers, but I don't think Taker is done wrestling, especially if he is going to wrestle in the middle of the Wrestling year! That can only mean that The Dead Man is going to wrestle a few more years, thus, beating Lesnar at WrestleMania to get true revenge against Lesnar for his humiliating defeat at WrestleMania 30. 

3. Surprising the Fans - The fact that from what I can see nobody was expecting this is amazing. I mean, Undertaker coming back during the middle of the year? That hasn't happened since he went from wrestling every week to just his WrestleMania appearances. I really like the fact that I am genuinely surprised. 



With all of this, I will be renewing my WWE Network Subscription sometime in the near future, and I will be watching WWE RAW and SmackDown again starting with the Battleground Pay - Per - View. 

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legacyme3 :  

You guys responded to my thread when I bashed WWE for being stupid. What do you make of this? 

I was pleasantly shocked by the pay per view last night for a few reasons.

1. John Cena won. I know that shouldn't shock me but it did. I honestly thought Kevin Owens was getting the US title. I was actually surprised that Cena won that match. I really enjoyed the feud they had and I honestly hope Cena loses on Raw to someone so that the "US Open Challenge" wasn't just a bunch of BS to get to the next PPV.

2. Undertaker coming back - big shock. I like the storyline they've got going and it allows Brock to stick around without going for the title. That's actually really nice.

that's about all really. I'm still on the fence about WWE in general. I find myself skipping through a lot of their shows when I used to watch the entire thing. Hopefully the next NXT crop can shake things up a bit more in the coming months so that it feels fresh again.

geeogree : SPOILER ALERT!!! much? 

geeogree :

Cena won't lose until Summerslam. One thing was obvious to me last night was that he'd drop the title to Owens... at Summerslam. They had Cena win last night to set up a MEGA blowup match at the biggest even of the summer. Book it.

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I wasn't too shocked, honestly by anything that happened at Battleground. It was a pretty boring PPV for me, since I was actually EXPECTING Undertaker to come back (I also expected Sting to make an appearance).

For me, the thing that was MOST IMPORTANT about last night was the fact the Divas had a great match, and that the Divas revolution is here. For the longest time, the division has been a joke, and now, there is a sudden influx of talent. The WWE cannot mess this up, or it will set their division back again for about 5 years.

I don't watch RAW anymore, I only keep up with the PPVs, because it's gotten increasingly predictable (I basically knew the result of every match but the pre-show prior to the event, just by pure logicing out the natural progression of a WWE feud).

They don't mix things up enough. But they did well throwing a curveball on the divas.

I've been a wrestling fan forever, but the last few years haven't given me many reasons to actually follow what's going on. I try to catch the PPVs and I'll put on RAW  if nothing else is on but even then I'll play games and not even pay attention. This rivalry looks good though and I was surprised too when 'Taker showed up at the PPV. He totally saved it though. Hopefully the rest of the card for SummerSlam can deliver too. 

legacyme3 : WWE is nothing if predictable. I agree that Cena won't lose until SummerSlam. But a 4th Pap - Per 0 View in a row of Cena vs Owens? Even for WWE, that is a bit much. Usually they are only in 3's. What kind of twist is WWE throwing at us? 

Honestly, I don't think WWE will have Cena drop the US Belt to Owens. While Owens might be American, Rusev didn't like America, but he never directly insulted America other than to call us stupid. Owens has stomped on the flag. Now, I know the idea of being a heel is to take heat, but that kind of heat is bad beat, even for a heel. I don't think Cena will drop the US Belt to Owens. Now, while it was wise to have Owens drop the NXT title, but the US Title on Owens right after Cena took it from Rusev is a bad idea in my eyes. 

thing1 :

The kind of twist that sets everyone up for EXACTLY what they want.

Literally the only way the Cena/Owens feud could have gone better to this point is if Cesaro/Rusev interrupted in the match last night, and caused a no contest.

That would have conveniently set up Cena/Owens/Cesaro/Rusev at SS for the title. They still might do it, but it's easier to establish that as your match to build to, when it's already been set at the previous PPV. WWE basically is giving themselves one less week to work with.

And I think WWE has to drop the belt to Owens at SS. If they don't, who "is" Cena going to drop to? Sami Zayn won't be back for a while, Samoa Joe is just barely starting NXT, Finn Balor is just starting as NXT Champ, and it makes zero sense for Cena to drop the title to a Ziggler, or a Barret, as those are established names in the industry.

The person Cena drops the title to HAS to be someone who can benefit HUGELY from it. For Ziggler or Barret, it'd just be a footnote of their careers, and the US title wouldn't mean anything, because it means nothing to them. If Owens beats Cena though, that's a huge push for his career, which sets up not just Owens to be the next big heel in WWE nicely, but also sets up the US Title to continue its own push.

Some people might forget this, but this time last year, no one gave a damn about the US Title. People finally care about it. It's relevant. If you take away all the hard work... then it goes back to being irrelevant. I have more faith in WWE to not do something totally inane, especially since it involves their golden boy, John Cena.

As a side note... Cena won the title from Rusev at Wrestlemania. He's held it for four months now, and when he drops it at Summerslam, it will have been five. Holding a title for nearly half a year doesn't mean you gave it away "right after you win it from somebody else". One of the best titles in WWE history, the Hardcore Championship once changed hands 9 times in one night, then three more times about a week later. There were 235 champions in the less than 4 years the title existed. And yet, despite frequent change, it is a beloved title.

How long you hold a title is irrelevant. It's all about telling a story. Cena's US title story is that he beat Rusev, the unbeatable wrecking ball, and saved the US people from oppression. If he loses to Owens, that doesn't change what he did to Rusev. Owens story is that he's "saving the people from John Cena".

It would be a nice way of the story coming full circle. Also, while not implicitly proven, it makes it look like Owens is strong enough to beat the "unbeatable" Rusev, without actually having to have Owens face Rusev to prove it. It keeps Rusev looking strong, but makes Owens look stronger.

Why couldn't you just use the old thread for this? Same topic really.

Frodlex : thread count for the win! That's why!



legacyme3 : that's what I was actually expecting.... I figured Cesaro would jump in and screw over Owens when he was about to win to set-up a triple threat for Summerslam. To me Rusev isn't part of the US title picture anymore. I thought he was feuding with Ziggler over Lana.

And ever since Owens lost the NXT title I was waiting for him to beat Cena. Not sure how they'll get them to Summerslam though. Cena is up 2-1. What is the point in facing Owens for a 4th time?

geeogree :

Kevin Owens can do something jerkish, like at this point, I'd have him threaten John Cena's father, or a little kid (although that would NOT go over with the PG era, obviously), and force John Cena to grant him a rematch.

Something where he preys upon Cena's sympathy.

Plus, with Cena doing the open challenge, there's nothing stopping Owens from taking it again, and winning on a RAW, forcing Cena to face him at SS, though it would be rather... tricky.

They have options though.

fair enough... it just seems like Battleground was the chance to have Cena lose and trying to make it into another 1 on 1 match with Cena makes no sense.

If it was a triple threat with Owens winning (include Cesaro in the match) and I could see it making sense.