Ok, if all of you haven't heard, the first console of the 9th generation has been announced by Nintendo, the system called as of this point (but you know between now and when it's released, it will change it's name), it's going to be named "Nintendo NX" (Or Nintendo Next for short).

Here are some articles I read...
IGN's article on the NX
Yahoo's article on the NX

There isn't anymore information about when the system could be released, but rumors said it'll be sometime around the end of the 2010's. Nintendo said that they will post more information about the NX at the end of this year or early 2016, and maybe start showing some prototypes of the NX around E3 2016/2017 time.


What do you think on the announcement of the new Nintendo NX's console coming up later in the decade.

IgorBird122 : I'm extremely excited about this news! I already heard it earlier today. I'm really hopeful that it'll be far more successful than the Wii U's been. I've always been a diehard Nintendo fan and I always will be. I'd personally like to see this new console act as both a home console and a handheld you could take on the go, that way I can finally play a mainstream pokemon game on my TV.

Thanks for bringing this to my attention, man. As for how I feel, I was really excited about it until I read the IGN artucle you linked. Some of Iwata's wording disappointed me: "brand new concept". Sounds like yet another gimmick, and just when I was getting some hope for Nintendo. Most of us don't want a new concept, we like the old one.

Still I may be reading too much into that statement. I suppose he could really mean anything. Hopefully they leak a little more info sooner than June 2016. And really whatever they do, if they just make it more powerful, it will at least be an improvement for them in the market most likely.

So I guess I'm excited and hopeful but very leery at this point.

Eirinn : Yeah, let's hope that Nintendo can make up from their mistakes with the NX, but we won't know on how the console will be like until they give more information on the NX at E3 2016.

So we really can't say much about how the console will be between now and E3 2016.

Yeah, as I said in my article I was expecting a 2016/2017 reveal and a 2017 release. And despite my expecting Nintendo to let me down personally, I'm still really excited. I can't wait to see what it looks like and how it'll function. This also implies that Nintendo plans to stick with five year generations, meaning we'll likely see Nintendo, Microsoft, and Sony all launching close together for gen 10. That will be so awesome as well. xD

One thing about the comments Iwata made that did leave me hopeful was the part about it being a dedicated gaming machine. That only states that it'll be a system made for the purpose of gaming, but it could also hint that Nintendo is stepping it up a notch this time. As long as it's even relatively close to PS4 and XBox One in power it'll get third party support and really boost Nintendo along I think.

   I'm not worried about how the console itself will be. I'm just hoping for two things. One, they really do attempt to get third party companies back. Missing out on games like CoD and Assassins Creed, or just getting terrible ports of it, while they never sell well on Nintendo systems (mostly because the ports are so bad, but I digress) these are the kinds of games they need to have to stay ahead of companies like Sony and Microsoft. Second, they must make sure that this isn't released too early. I know that the 7th generation was longer than others, and the Wii U especially won't last that long, but they have to make sure they don't do what Sega did by screwing over the Sega Saturn users by releasing the Dreamcast so soon after. I'm sure they won't release it that early, but if the Wii U goes less than 5 years, I think there may be some problems there.

   EDIT: I forgot I was going to talk about this at first, but I am confident that with their statements about it being a dedicated video game console mean that we will see it as a real console still, and not some weird hybrid portable console or anything. I'm also curious what we'll see with the control scheme. The Wii U has about 500 controllers that can be used, so I wonder if Nintendo will try to cut back on it, or embrace this model of keeping all your controllers that have been made over the last ten years.

patar4097: This might actually raise a question. In May of 2014, a patent filed by Nintendo was published. And now, the abstract from the patent:

An example system includes an operation instrument having a storage unit storing information and a first short distance radio communication unit performing transmission/reception of data with an information processing device; and an information processing device having an attachment unit to which the operation instrument is attached, a second short distance radio communication unit performing transmission/reception of data with the operation instrument, an information reading unit reading information stored in the storage unit of the operation instrument through the second short distance radio communication unit, and a processing unit performing processing in accordance with read information read by the information reading unit and operation information indicating operation for the operation instrument attached to the attachment unit.

I believe that all you need to know from the text above is that it's basically interchangeable control schemes. Now, since we don't know whether this is a console or a handheld (don't forget about Nintendo Fusion, the gaming talk of January 2014). May this be a hybrid? I'm not sure! Anyways, if you want to see the pictures and read some more stuff, look up 'United States Patent Application 20140121023' on Google, and it will offer you everything.

Eirinn : A "brand new concept" doesn't ring to my ears either. However, with the failed 8th generation Nintendo system, that Wii U was the first one announced and released. With this hinting the ninth generation, I'm having mixed feelings. They need to create a console that will appeal to everyone. With the Wii U, everyone who played on their Wii from the start got older when the Wii U came out (6 years older) and if they started playing Wii, let's say, at the age of 7 and they were 13 by the time the Wii U was out, I don't think that it would appeal to them. See, I got the Wii in 2008 and played it until mid-2013. I played all those good games. I'm not exactly sure that I would want the Wii U now, compared to my younger self enthusiastic to get it. I play on the Xbox One and 3DS XL now, and it's great. So, I don't exactly see me going back to a Nintendo console for a while, but maybe a Nintendo handheld. It all depends on whether it can entertain me or not.

I don't normally play Nintendo games anymore since don't have any but if for me, if I'm going to get it, it's mainly going to be for how it looks, I don't really care about the features and such too much for the consoles, just how convinent it is to put somewhere, the games, and how it looks.

mario102 : Looking at that patent info makes me think that Nintendo is up to their typical gimmicky ways. :/ It sounds terrible really, but maybe they can make something good of it.

As for a hybrid, I don't expect that at this point because the description in the patent doesn't make it sound that way. It mentions two short distance radio devices (and sounds like one may actually be hooked to the machine), plus the operation device. That wouldn't be too practical for handheld operation unless they had it set up so that it could be detatched from that other device and dumb down the game content to be played on the "operation device" (console?) via a built in screen.
Also Nintendo relies too heavily on handheld system success to completely merge both handheld and console I think. I could be wrong though.

As for your comments on Wii customers growing up before the Wii U and thus not caring for it, you may well be correct in some ways there. That's a point I hadn't considered personally, but it may have some merit. Good catch.

And while I love the Nintendo five-year cycle, I have to wonder if it actully hurts them more than it helps. I mean a Nintendo system is outdated in five years whereas Sony and MS systems aren't outdated (by a new system release) for eight to ten years, and they all three sell for about the same price. So you pay the same for a five year system that you pay for an eight to ten year system. That might be offputting for some.


Still I stick to my comment that if they can match or top the PS4 and XBox One in power, they'll be back in the third party game and get some more sales. Power has been Nintendo's biggest problem since the N64, and it's the main reason they tend to trail behind the others in sales. It's a trend at least eighteen years in the making: lack of power results in fewer titles and typically poor ports from other systems (if any ports at all).

Eirinn : That is true, because look at the mistake Sega made with the Dreamcast, it seems like Deja vu again.

Remember that they started going downhill after Sega installed the 32X and CD onto the Genesis, and they wanted to bounce back with the Saturn, but that console flopped (mostly because of the success of the PS1 and the N64), and they wanted to go with one last effort by releasing the Dreamcast very early before the PS2 and the Xbox and was the first console announced for the 6th generation, years before the PS2 and the Xbox's announcement, but it completely destroyed them and we never seen a Sega console again.

So, I am in a way that Nintendo could be making the same mistake, announced the NX too early after the failure of the Wii U, and we don't know on how the PlayStation 5 and the 4th Xbox will turn out, but after experience with Sega, it might not be good for Nintendo's part, we could be wrong though, we need to see if this is indeed a smart move by Nintendo or a fatal mistake.

I think this is a terrible mistake on Nintendo's part of announcing the NX because this means those who just got the Wii U for Super Smash Bros. 4 will have to get a new console in 2 or so years just to upgrade for the new games. I just hope they have backwards compatibility with this console.

tyranit : Just because they announce the console doesn't mean they are going to release it anytime soon. For all we know, it could be released sometime in the next 5 years.

LunarDarkness2 : Actually Nintendo has said that they plan on revealing the NX (or at least sharing details on it) next year. So logically it would seem that Nintendo plans on a late 2016 - late 2017 release, though far more likely is a 2017 release...I hope. And Nintendo also tends to stick with approximately five year cycles.

Some are even suggesting that Nintendo is delaying Zelda for the NX, but I highly doubt that. Nintendo needs that game on the Wii U.

Also I was hoping for an announcement this year or next on a new console, but only if they were announcing a normal console with regular controllers. However such is not the case, sadly. As such, I think Nintendo has shot themselves in the foot with the announcement. People who are just now embracing the Wii U's extremely unconventional design will be turned away by the idea that another console concept that they expect to be silly and unconventional will soon be releasing as well.

I know because I'm one of those people. Give me time to catch up, Nintendo.

Eirinn : Yeah, when they reveal it next year, we can see on what the NX will look like, I think Nintendo will reveal it at E3 in 2016 on what it will look like (well, the prototype of it), because they can change the design of it between that time and release. I'm guessing more likely that the NX will be released sometime around holiday 2017, they will show a more detail (late-beta model) on the console at E3 2017.

I have heard that Nintendo is delaying the Wii U version of The Legend of Zelda for the NX, but like you said, that's highly unlikely and release it in 2016 based on their prediction date. Mostly because they don't want their customers unhappy, especially with the condition that Nintendo is in right now if you compare them to Sony and Microsoft.

I am still yet to get a Wii U right now, but I'm hoping that will soon change in the coming months because I got 2 games I want to get for the Wii U before moving on. Although I don't hopped into the new generation right away, I just happened to start the 8th generation with the 3DS a year ago, and fixing to buy a Wii U like I said in a couple of months. So I won't be hopping into the 9th generation until a few years after the NX is released.

Unless the Wii U is still making Nintendo's finances get negatively affected, I think Nintendo is planning on releasing their new console too early. It's only been about 2 a half years since they released the Wii U.

I agree with Eirinn that they should keep old concepts instead of doing new ones.

I'm still excited about the Nintendo NX though!

This is really cool. I love Nintendo, but it is kind of weird that they are making games for the Wii U and then announce the Nintendo NX. This console better be worth it.

Ok, we have got some news by Nintendo's president Satoru Iwata, he said, "don't expect any NX prototypes at E3 this year". But he said that they will reveal the specifics and hardware sometime around 2016 time, maybe 2016's E3.

But so far, the only news Iwata shared about the NX as of this time. For the first time ever on a Nintendo console, it will be a region-lock free console means you can be able to take those games in different country without having to buy a new console.

   Well, that's definitely a good thing to hear that it won't be region locked. That's something people have been asking for forever now, so this is definitely a step in the right direction for Nintendo. I guess we'll have to wait until next year to really know, but they may really be listening to fans about things like that, but it could just be they couldn't keep up the terrible region locking practice for another reason. I still kind of wish they hadn't brought up the idea of the NX as early as they did, especially with no details being released about it until next year. But either way, I'm very interested to see what they have in store for us.

patar4097 : Agreed on the part about it being too early to announce another system. And since they did so a year before they planned on releasing any info on it, it seems to me that they were trying to play on hype for some sorely needed positive publicity. In the end though, I think they botched it. I've yet to see any positive results from this, and it almost makes me hesitant to ever buy a Wii U since it'll be outdated almost as soon as I get it.

I also wonder about how much money Nintendo costs themselves by changing designs so radically all of the time that they make releasing the same game on both active systems after a new one's release difficult. For example: new PlayStation game comes out, it sells on the PS3 and PS4 and at times the PS Vita. New Nintendo game comes out and it has to choose which system to be on often. Also their short life cycles make last gen systems obsolete fast.

I am just not that excited. I mean.

We don't even have a Metroid, F=zero, Star Fox, or (real) Zelda game out for Wii U yet. I want to see those before I'm ready to move on. And I don't think the hype train will go very well if we aren't satisfied with the Wii U first.

I think it's too early to really talk about it, and Nintendo needs to worry more about making good games then their next console. You definitely shouldn't lag behind technology wise, but nobody wants the system if there aren't good games for it. So, what about the games I just listed above? Do we get an instalment from that franchise yet please?