Hi, people from the land of V! Green here with another thread! So, this is my very first Debate thread in the Debate forum. Not sure if anyone posted a similar thread to this, but anyway. So, is World Peace possible? My answer is YES. Anything is possible, and nothing is impossible. In your opinion, if some major issues around the world were fixed, would it increase the chance of having World Peace? Tell me at least 2 major issues that should be fixed, and it can perhaps increase the chance of having World Peace. So, this thread has 2 questions. Is World Peace possible? If yes, then if some major issues were fixed, would it increase the chance of having World Peace? I'll post 4 main issues that are bugging me below, and if they were solved, then the chance of having World Peace would definitely increase. Here there are:

Number 4: The war about Islam. I really want the war about Islam to stop. Did Isis even read the Quran? There's a big war about Islam around the war. Many people are saying Islam is a bad religion for absolutely no reason. Don't judge by appearance. Don't judge a book by its cover. I was born Muslim, too, but I don't believe in religion 100% (See my thread about 'Why I don't believe in religion 100%' to know more info). If this issue was fixed, then the chance of having World Peace would increase, since each religion needs tolerance.


Number 3: People that are suffering in Africa. Man, I feel so bad for these poor people who live in that continent. But, thank God I have a rich family that take cares of me. Anyway, Africa is in real danger. If we're just going to stand there to do nothing, it's going to be our fault. Why? If the world was much less selfish, then we wouldn't have Africa's issues today.

Number 2: The war between Israel and Palestine. No, it's not a war, it's worse than a war. Is there a solution? Yes. If Palestine receives reinforcements, and Israel is having war problems, then there's a big chance that we can have peace between these two countries. Most countries are cheering for Israel, right? If peace would happen, then most of the countries would respect Palestine.

Number 1: Women's rights in Saudi Arabia. Ah, that issue annoys me. It started to annoy me since last year, I guess. Anyway, Saudi Arabia should know that women are equal to men, and with their bodies capacities, they are able to do lots of different things. Trust me, if this issue was fixed, then we're close to World Peace, since it has to do with human rights.

Anyway, guys, that's it for my first Debate thread. Is World Peace possible? If yes, then if some major issues were fixed, would it increase the chance of having World Peace? Post your thoughts tomorrow. Oh, and sorry if I was complaining in some parts, I was just sharing my opinion on each issue.

NintendoFanKimmy : You want World Peace just like me, so this thread might interest you.

I don't think World Peace is possible in today's climate. It might be possible hundreds of years down the line when there's a singularity and we are all truly equal, but as people are, there will always be conflicting opinions and people who rise up to attack those they disagree with.


Even if you squash the war in Islam, end general hunger in Africa, and socially progress Saudi Arabia, there won't be true peace.

Even here in America, where we are largely progressive as a people, there is a large contingent of people who oppose equal rights, and are very vocal about it. There are riots and protests all the time.

People are just awful like that. And you can't really change people that easily.

It's hard enough to change one bad person, can you imagine how impossible it will be to change all of them?

legacyme3 : Yeah, you're right. It's very difficult to change a bad person into a good person. It would take many years if we want World Peace so badly. If everyone wants peace, then why they won't start working on it right now?

greenluigi :

People are working on it.

They have been for longer than any person has ever lived. They have been since before our grandparents were born.

The fact peace hasn't been reached yet should give you an idea of just how ridiculous the notion of World Peace is.

I'm not saying people should stop working for it, but people should stop expecting it to ever happen.

Neat thread!~

Also, happy 13th birthday xD!

Anyway, I think world peace would only be possible if EVERYONE were taught not to kill or harm others in any other way because of differing opinions, and if resources were distributed reasonably or whatever. This is a little complicated, but, I mean, if every country had enough resources for its people and stuff, there'd be a lot less fights over resources and stuff and a lot of more satisfied people. Then, of course, there is still the possibility of greedy people who will want more than they need... 

If everyone realized how helping each other is benefiting everyone, maybe world peace could be achieved.

As for reactions to different opinions - war over religious beliefs has GOT to stop. It's UNBELIEVABLE.

Perhaps I should address the points you make individually ?~

Number 4:

Yeah, "Islam" is causing a LOT of problems today. There are other "Islamic" terrorist organizations besides IS, even, that are absolutely disgusting and not only judge people by their beliefs, but treat them accordingly, even when it involves DEATH. It's disgusting. ABSOLUTELY disgusting. It's also humiliating. I'm saying this because was born and still am Muslim, and what these idiots are doing is embarrassing and shameful. That's why I put quotation marks around the words "Islam" and "Islamic". They are NOT even Islamic. They're just crazy. Before people anxiously search for specific quotes from the Qur'an just to argue with me, just take into consideration that there are even ideas in the Bible which are considered outdated and no longer thought of. How come no one says that about the Qur'an? Because of where I live, around 60% of people I know are Muslims, and they are some of the most normal, sensible people ever.  The real problem here is people claiming to be Islamic and killing the name of Allah, the Muslims' name for God. That's the problem. "Islamic" radicalism aside, though - persecution of any sort is horrid and unacceptable. It has to be stopped. As long as our opinions do not contain any threats to each other because of differing opinions, we should tolerate them. I can't even believe this still needs to be said.

Number 3:

It's almost funny. Half of the world is trying to lose weight, and the other is starving. How sad. Like I said earlier, it's going to take either a miracle of a LOT of education and work, but proportional distribution of human needs is essential.

Number 2:

Ah, Israel and Palestine. Green, you don't watch the news a lot and don't have as diverse a set of sources to base your opinion on as I do, and it's okay if you support Palestine and think they deserve respect (I do, too), but please understand that peace CAN be made, and I believe they can live together in harmony. Also, I hope you know that a lot of Israelis are embarrassed and say "I refuse to occupy" a lot . 

Number 1:

If women make the choice to wear hijabs, it's their choice. If they are FORCED, it is oppression. Women in Saudi Arabia are oppressed in more ways than one. And it HAS to stop. Then, again, people say "those backward Muslims"... Think, guys. Not every Arab country is Saudi Arabia. Do you think the Qur'an even mentions cars at all?

I think it's possible that within a few centuries we'll have World Peace.

If we look at America, it's unlikely that we'll ever have a civil war again. There's still a lot of social conflict from day-to-day, but it's unlikely that we'll ever have a repeat of the 1860s. I see World Peace as that on a global scale.

We'd still have a lot of issues to solve, but it would be unlikely that war would ever break out.

I do not believe we will ever see world peace. About how you talked about ISIS, yes, they've read the Qur'an. They're Sunni/Shia Muslims, meaning they believe the Caliphate should be a direct descendant of prophet Muhammad. Now while that itself is controversial it's just what they believe. And I don't know if you know this but ISIS's name itself is the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria and their goal is to make a unified Arabic nation, now of course they were made in 1999 by Abu Al Zarqawi with the intent of being extremists but even their victims see their religious fervor as valiant. 

Need I mention Europe? You have Vladimir Putin abusing Russia's lack of election laws to rule as a emperor than a president, and you can't be a emperor without and empire and Putin is content with expanding Russia's borders once more to accomplish that. As for the Chrimea thing, I believe it belongs to Russia, even the Ukrainians there believe it does. It goes way back to when Moscow was called Muscovy back in Mongolian control when the early 1000 A.D.'s were going on. It's just Slavic history and the fact that ignorant other peoples like the Germans, Italians, and French make a big deal of when it's Slav business. 

Then we have the United States being the world's police officer dipping their finger in too many pies and eventually that'll come back to bite them. And their "Break it Buy it" policy in the Middle East is killing the American economy which would be better spent on prioritizing the ever so impossible to pay Chinese debt they're in at the moment. 
All these events I've talked about will prevent the thought of world peace for a rough 300-ish years. The closest we've been to semi-world peace was the United Nations and the U.S. Congress even voted us out of joining it. :p

It would come at a great compromise no nationality would be willing to bend to.

Cuase everyone has their own idea on the best system and way to get along. Even in the last days, the Bible talks about sheep and goat nations. I've only heard about this, and I can't verify it for myself, but I doubt the whole world would fall to the anti christ. . .

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There are many antichrists actually, according to . . .John was it? Hitler I believe was one of them. Even Christians in Germany believed that he was.

But even under The Anti Christ war will continue. You think the devil incarnated into man is gonna like iIrael? Think again.

But my knowledge of revelation is very low.

It can only be achieved one way: trade. As long as there is not worldwide free trade (i.e. no prohibitive tariffs anywhere), poverty will subsist, creating instability and chaos. Look at the 1930s: foreign trade had basically shut down. Compare that to the decades preceding World War 1: the volume of trade was proportionally comparable to that of the end of the 20th century and there were no worldwide conflicts.

And to address greeluigi's issues

1) This revolution can only come from the inside. Until political authorities are ready to do away with the Dark Age, they won't change.
2) The main problem between these two seems to be religion. Two "people" claim that the land of Israel was handed to them by God. Otherwise, both are the same "people" (Semites)
3) My solution would help alleviate many of the starvation problems. As for obesity: we are told to believe that fat is bad and carbs are good. It's the exact opposite...
4) The freer the trade, the freer the people. But also look 1). Also, Western imperialism fuels their extremists (it doesn't cause their existence)

I read somewhere that there was a world peace some time in the 1700. This was only of cource in the "civilized" world and I bet there was some kind of tribal warfare going on somewhere that just was not recorded.


I am not sure if world peace is possible, but it still should be a goal which we all should try to reach.

I really don't think it will happen under the current governments we have. Radical Muslims are a problem, but even without them, there would be too many problems. I'm thinking of N. Korea picking fights with Japan, Russia charging into Ukraine... 

I really don't think it will come until after the Tribulation, during the Millennial Kingdom of Jesus Christ. (If you want to discuss the Bible and what I believe, we can make a new thread, but that doesn't belong here.)

I doubt finding solutions to those problems would change much. There was conflict between people before those issues even factored in.
As far as whether or not I think it's possible.....yeah, I do.
I just don't think it's very likely.

The problem has little to do with external things in my opinion.
It's to easy to blame other things. The problem as I see t, is human nature.

Until we, as a species, change the way we think and handle problems, I don't think there will ever be peace.

No.
Conflict is nature.
Whether we be "advanced" beings or not, conflict is, and always will be, in our nature.
Every time we solve a problem, another will take its place.

greenluigi :

World peace is only possible when human beings become faultless. And that's not going to happen to any of us living right now.

Edit: Oh, and if  "nothing is impossible", is impossibility impossible? Yes would mean something is impossible (Impossibility), and No would leave open the possibility for impossibility.

Txgangsta : If by peace you mean absolutely no violence whatsoever, then yes it will never happen.

However, if you merely see world peace as simply no/ a severe decrease in international wars (two or more countries directly involved), then it has better chances of being achieved. The period between 1815 and 1914 has been the most peaceful in history. Yes, there have been "international" combats like the Crimean War and the Franco-Prussian War, but they didn't last for so long.

Otherwise, once people realized that trade was the better way to wealth our living conditions improved dramatically for the best. I often heard saying that the volume of trade before World War I was proportionally comparable to the levels at the turn of the present century. Just imagine if more countries had spent resources improving their lives rather than spending on the military...