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Brock Lesner not defending title at Hell in a Cell!!??

 

10-19-14 08:39 AM
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So it would seem that Brock Lesner is not gonna defend the WWE World Heavyweight title belt at Hell in a Cell, what do you guys think of that personally?


I just personally think it is really unacceptable, I mean him not being an active champion is one thing, but now he is now even gonna defend the title at a Pay Per View, I just think that has stepped over the line there!! That is just my personal opinion!!


I don't know about you guys but I will certainly not be sorry when Brock Lesner loses the title which unfortunately it probably will not happen until Wrestlemania where Roman Reigns or someone takes the title away from him!!


I am looking forward to seeing Dean Ambrose .vs. Seth Rollins and all, but this is just making me sick that a champion is not even gonna defend the title!!


That is my personal rant on this?


What are your personal thoughts?


So it would seem that Brock Lesner is not gonna defend the WWE World Heavyweight title belt at Hell in a Cell, what do you guys think of that personally?


I just personally think it is really unacceptable, I mean him not being an active champion is one thing, but now he is now even gonna defend the title at a Pay Per View, I just think that has stepped over the line there!! That is just my personal opinion!!


I don't know about you guys but I will certainly not be sorry when Brock Lesner loses the title which unfortunately it probably will not happen until Wrestlemania where Roman Reigns or someone takes the title away from him!!


I am looking forward to seeing Dean Ambrose .vs. Seth Rollins and all, but this is just making me sick that a champion is not even gonna defend the title!!


That is my personal rant on this?


What are your personal thoughts?


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Heh.

Put belt on monster.

Monster doesn't defend title.

Thereby not burying anyone but also not pushing anyone.

Perfect move to maintain the status quo and build a monster champion without having him bury anyone!
Heh.

Put belt on monster.

Monster doesn't defend title.

Thereby not burying anyone but also not pushing anyone.

Perfect move to maintain the status quo and build a monster champion without having him bury anyone!
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Oh sure, if Daniel Bryan is planning to not be around, let's just remove the title from him. However, when Brock Lesnar is not around, let's just keep the title on him. Funny enough to think about this.

I am a bit torn in the middle. I like how the upcoming pay per view is focused on Cena, Orton, Ambrose, and Rollins also known as our main event stars at the moment. I am still a bit bummed with what part timers have especially when they wrestle once in a full blue moon. Meanwhile you have the beast, Brock Lesnar, who claims to destroy anyone that comes across his way and conquer them all. It is a bit weird to not see him around especially with all of the heat he has been getting from the fans lately. If Lesnar can stall and come back at a later time, that heat from the fans will come back instead of being stale and boring to the fans.
Oh sure, if Daniel Bryan is planning to not be around, let's just remove the title from him. However, when Brock Lesnar is not around, let's just keep the title on him. Funny enough to think about this.

I am a bit torn in the middle. I like how the upcoming pay per view is focused on Cena, Orton, Ambrose, and Rollins also known as our main event stars at the moment. I am still a bit bummed with what part timers have especially when they wrestle once in a full blue moon. Meanwhile you have the beast, Brock Lesnar, who claims to destroy anyone that comes across his way and conquer them all. It is a bit weird to not see him around especially with all of the heat he has been getting from the fans lately. If Lesnar can stall and come back at a later time, that heat from the fans will come back instead of being stale and boring to the fans.
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As of now, it sounds as if he's not supposed to defend the title until the Rumble against Cena. Personally I hate the idea of a champion who can't even be bothered to show up and doesn't want to wrestle at events. I guess he just wants to be paid by the WWE for doing as little as possible and they'll agree because they think he's a huge draw. 

I just think it's in poor taste for Vince to put the strap on someone when he doesn't seem to care if they'll be on TV or not to defend the title. He's just not there, no valid story line reason given. Lesnar just doesn't seem to care in real life about being given the title, so to me at least it just sort of devalues it when someone like that has it.
As of now, it sounds as if he's not supposed to defend the title until the Rumble against Cena. Personally I hate the idea of a champion who can't even be bothered to show up and doesn't want to wrestle at events. I guess he just wants to be paid by the WWE for doing as little as possible and they'll agree because they think he's a huge draw. 

I just think it's in poor taste for Vince to put the strap on someone when he doesn't seem to care if they'll be on TV or not to defend the title. He's just not there, no valid story line reason given. Lesnar just doesn't seem to care in real life about being given the title, so to me at least it just sort of devalues it when someone like that has it.
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As much as I would hate to huge superstars such a Cena or Orton be the one to take the title from Lesner, I would actually go for them and maybe they would be too exhausted after defeating Lensner and then Seth Rollins cashes this in!!


I apoligize to those of you who won`t like this idea but Rollins is personally my second favourite wreslter along with Danile Bryan being my first favourite!!


And listen, I do like Brock Lesner as wrestler, but by the fact that he`s actually a jackass in real life which of course I don`t like him as a person, and we all gotta face facts that he doesn`t like wrestling as he is only here for the money and had to retire from UFC because of his injury!!

As much as I would hate to huge superstars such a Cena or Orton be the one to take the title from Lesner, I would actually go for them and maybe they would be too exhausted after defeating Lensner and then Seth Rollins cashes this in!!


I apoligize to those of you who won`t like this idea but Rollins is personally my second favourite wreslter along with Danile Bryan being my first favourite!!


And listen, I do like Brock Lesner as wrestler, but by the fact that he`s actually a jackass in real life which of course I don`t like him as a person, and we all gotta face facts that he doesn`t like wrestling as he is only here for the money and had to retire from UFC because of his injury!!

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I think this shows what is wrong with WWE creative writing to me the WWE heavy weight champion ship should be defended at every paper view event. In the past that is what made paper views an attraction for WWE. If they want to keep Brock as a champion they need to let him work the Paper Views. If that is not the case than they need to put it on somebody else that is ready for it such as Dean Ambrose. Or a Veteran such as Orton or even Kane. 
I think this shows what is wrong with WWE creative writing to me the WWE heavy weight champion ship should be defended at every paper view event. In the past that is what made paper views an attraction for WWE. If they want to keep Brock as a champion they need to let him work the Paper Views. If that is not the case than they need to put it on somebody else that is ready for it such as Dean Ambrose. Or a Veteran such as Orton or even Kane. 
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Awesome-Kid :

I've heard Lesner was a jackass but never believed it.

His high pitched voice always made me feel sorry for him. =P
Awesome-Kid :

I've heard Lesner was a jackass but never believed it.

His high pitched voice always made me feel sorry for him. =P
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You know personally, I wouldn't mind seeing Lesner losing the title before Wrestlemania and have a match with The Rock ( the match that has been talked about for years and I have been waiting a long time for) and The Rock getting revenge on Lesner from Summerslam 2002 where he took the Undisbuted title from The Rock!!


You know personally, I wouldn't mind seeing Lesner losing the title before Wrestlemania and have a match with The Rock ( the match that has been talked about for years and I have been waiting a long time for) and The Rock getting revenge on Lesner from Summerslam 2002 where he took the Undisbuted title from The Rock!!


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I totally agree with all of you. Lesnar being the champion and not appearing a lot, really sucks.

Fishergirl7 : I am guessing Vince's business logic is this: Bring an old timer wrestler from the past and have him "hog" all of the glory and the title itself. Brock already has all of the heat that he has and he has done unrealistic accomplishments during his time this year. He broke the streak and got the title. Worst of all, he is just doing it for the money and he doesn't care much. It really makes me the old Brock Lesnar when he was in his prime and actually cared about his work ethic.

Awesome-Kid : I would like Rollins to be champ as well. That would have happened if it wasn't for Cena from the last pay per view. I was looking so forward to Rollins the champ. However, I do like how Rollins got jealous and attacked Orton when Orton got the win. Rollins believes that he should be the one with all of the glory especially when he has the money in the bank briefcase right now. He is the future! I am looking forward to the possible Orton vs Rollins rivalry. As much as I would like to see another Rock vs Lesnar match, it isn't the same as it was in 2002.

tornadocam : I agree with you and the title should be defended at least in every pay per view. It feels a bit empty without the title defense. That brings down the fame and honor of the title. Sooner or later, that title could not mean a thing anymore like the diva's title, tag team titles, and the US title if this keeps up.

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I totally agree with all of you. Lesnar being the champion and not appearing a lot, really sucks.

Fishergirl7 : I am guessing Vince's business logic is this: Bring an old timer wrestler from the past and have him "hog" all of the glory and the title itself. Brock already has all of the heat that he has and he has done unrealistic accomplishments during his time this year. He broke the streak and got the title. Worst of all, he is just doing it for the money and he doesn't care much. It really makes me the old Brock Lesnar when he was in his prime and actually cared about his work ethic.

Awesome-Kid : I would like Rollins to be champ as well. That would have happened if it wasn't for Cena from the last pay per view. I was looking so forward to Rollins the champ. However, I do like how Rollins got jealous and attacked Orton when Orton got the win. Rollins believes that he should be the one with all of the glory especially when he has the money in the bank briefcase right now. He is the future! I am looking forward to the possible Orton vs Rollins rivalry. As much as I would like to see another Rock vs Lesnar match, it isn't the same as it was in 2002.

tornadocam : I agree with you and the title should be defended at least in every pay per view. It feels a bit empty without the title defense. That brings down the fame and honor of the title. Sooner or later, that title could not mean a thing anymore like the diva's title, tag team titles, and the US title if this keeps up.

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I think the only reason he isn't defending is because they don't have anyone else to put the title on.

No one wants Cena or Orton. Who else is healthy that they could use legitimately?
I think the only reason he isn't defending is because they don't have anyone else to put the title on.

No one wants Cena or Orton. Who else is healthy that they could use legitimately?
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geeogree : I would put the title on Orton since I like him and I don't know he is that boring in general. Cena, on the other hand, I don't want him as champion again. He is so close to having the most overall title reigns in WWE history, passing Ric Flair. Soon, Rollins will be champ but not just yet. I think there are other wrestlers that have good potential but however, WWE is just focusing on Orton and Cena for the most part. 
geeogree : I would put the title on Orton since I like him and I don't know he is that boring in general. Cena, on the other hand, I don't want him as champion again. He is so close to having the most overall title reigns in WWE history, passing Ric Flair. Soon, Rollins will be champ but not just yet. I think there are other wrestlers that have good potential but however, WWE is just focusing on Orton and Cena for the most part. 
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ghostfishy : Yeah, both Orton and Cena have held the title too many times considering their age. Flair took 20 years to rack up 17 title reigns. It's so stupid. Again though, who else can you put in their place right now?


I don't see Rollins winning honestly. Or if he does it's just a way to put the title back on to Daniel Bryan. I see Roman Reigns winning the title sometime in 2015 as well.

Either way Lesnar needs to drop the title and go away. I like him when he shows up but it's so rare that it's getting annoying that he has the title.
ghostfishy : Yeah, both Orton and Cena have held the title too many times considering their age. Flair took 20 years to rack up 17 title reigns. It's so stupid. Again though, who else can you put in their place right now?


I don't see Rollins winning honestly. Or if he does it's just a way to put the title back on to Daniel Bryan. I see Roman Reigns winning the title sometime in 2015 as well.

Either way Lesnar needs to drop the title and go away. I like him when he shows up but it's so rare that it's getting annoying that he has the title.
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geeogree : It stinks you cannot put anyone else for the WWE title at the moment especially when most of the superstars are not getting their push and star power. Bryan won't be coming until a couple of months later due to his surgeries. Reigns won't get a taste of the title until next year.

It is nice to see old wrestlers like Lesnar and Rock but when they carry the title, they barely show up and defend it. Lesnar pretty much doesn't really care about the title or showing up. He's not even in his prime like how he was back in 2002-2003. He will soon leave the WWE for good. That's the thing with part timers. They just pop up out of nowhere, rob the title and get that push out of nowhere, and then leave like they never existed. Yet sometimes they come back again and the cycle repeats itself. That is pretty much what everyone else on this thread says and most of us hate it. I agree with you on the most part.

Maybe if WWE put more effort on their newer superstars and build them up, it would be much better instead of getting all of these old wrestlers from the part to get ratings and make business. Old timers aren't gonna be around forever to keep the WWE business going.
geeogree : It stinks you cannot put anyone else for the WWE title at the moment especially when most of the superstars are not getting their push and star power. Bryan won't be coming until a couple of months later due to his surgeries. Reigns won't get a taste of the title until next year.

It is nice to see old wrestlers like Lesnar and Rock but when they carry the title, they barely show up and defend it. Lesnar pretty much doesn't really care about the title or showing up. He's not even in his prime like how he was back in 2002-2003. He will soon leave the WWE for good. That's the thing with part timers. They just pop up out of nowhere, rob the title and get that push out of nowhere, and then leave like they never existed. Yet sometimes they come back again and the cycle repeats itself. That is pretty much what everyone else on this thread says and most of us hate it. I agree with you on the most part.

Maybe if WWE put more effort on their newer superstars and build them up, it would be much better instead of getting all of these old wrestlers from the part to get ratings and make business. Old timers aren't gonna be around forever to keep the WWE business going.
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I totally agree about pushing new wrestlers. I've been a fan of Dolph Ziggler for a long time but I hate that they couldn't just give him the title without Money in the Bank. I really enjoy him as a wrestler.



Actually I have come up with someone who could hold the title: Cesaro. He is so bad-ass that he could easily do it. He's shown he is strong enough to hang with anyone and people like him. I would like to see him hold the title. He won't for a year or 2 though just like others. They won't be seen as "ready".
I totally agree about pushing new wrestlers. I've been a fan of Dolph Ziggler for a long time but I hate that they couldn't just give him the title without Money in the Bank. I really enjoy him as a wrestler.



Actually I have come up with someone who could hold the title: Cesaro. He is so bad-ass that he could easily do it. He's shown he is strong enough to hang with anyone and people like him. I would like to see him hold the title. He won't for a year or 2 though just like others. They won't be seen as "ready".
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geeogree : I like your idea of Cesaro being the champion!! He does deserve a push for sure!! I'm hoping that Cesaro takes the Intercontinental title from Ziggler, sorry Geo as I notice that your a huge fan of Ziggler, I do like Ziggler as well but Cesaro deserves the Intercontinental title!! 
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Awesome-Kid : I would be fine with them having a longer rivalry where the title goes back and forth a few times. I get really tired of the 1-2 month long rivalries that end out of nowhere. I prefer the longer term stuff when the guys are right for it. I think they could keep something going and put on some awesome matches at the same time.
Awesome-Kid : I would be fine with them having a longer rivalry where the title goes back and forth a few times. I get really tired of the 1-2 month long rivalries that end out of nowhere. I prefer the longer term stuff when the guys are right for it. I think they could keep something going and put on some awesome matches at the same time.
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You guys know something?? I like to see John Cena beat Orton inside the Cell tomorrow night and then go on and take the title away from Lesner at like Survivor Series and NOT wait until the Royal Rumble for the title to be on the line and Cena tie it up with Ric Flair's 16 Champion record!! 


I am actually rooting for Cena to beat Ric Flair's record and I would actually like to see Cena be champion at least 20 times, or maybe 30!!


But yes as Geo says, that is ridiculous that Cena and Orton have been champion all these times for like the last 10 years!!
You guys know something?? I like to see John Cena beat Orton inside the Cell tomorrow night and then go on and take the title away from Lesner at like Survivor Series and NOT wait until the Royal Rumble for the title to be on the line and Cena tie it up with Ric Flair's 16 Champion record!! 


I am actually rooting for Cena to beat Ric Flair's record and I would actually like to see Cena be champion at least 20 times, or maybe 30!!


But yes as Geo says, that is ridiculous that Cena and Orton have been champion all these times for like the last 10 years!!
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I'm glad I didn't renew my 9.99 subscription. Stuff is just not worth watching anymore. On top of having a job, I don't have time for this mediocre stuff that WWE has become. We need a new champ. I wouldn't mind Rusev as the champ. He is somewhat of a modern day Nikolai Volkoff/Iron Shiek character.
I'm glad I didn't renew my 9.99 subscription. Stuff is just not worth watching anymore. On top of having a job, I don't have time for this mediocre stuff that WWE has become. We need a new champ. I wouldn't mind Rusev as the champ. He is somewhat of a modern day Nikolai Volkoff/Iron Shiek character.
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At the Royal Rumble which seems like that is when Cena will face Lesner..... I'm gonna be going for Cena to take the title from Lesner and Roman Reigns winning the Rumble and then Reigns go on to Wrestlemania and face Cena for the title, as of now this is what I want to happen!!
At the Royal Rumble which seems like that is when Cena will face Lesner..... I'm gonna be going for Cena to take the title from Lesner and Roman Reigns winning the Rumble and then Reigns go on to Wrestlemania and face Cena for the title, as of now this is what I want to happen!!
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geeogree :
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Cesaro is one of my favorite wrestlers at the moment and I think it's sad that he got his push lowered. He had so much hype with him being the king of swings. He has the look and wrestling ability to be a suitable champion. I do miss those long intimate rivalries in the past like what geeogree said. It really connects with the crowd and plus it makes the rivalry and entertainment more intense. Maybe if this were to happen, this wouldn't lead to the crowd picking other feuds between other wrestlers. I don't like to see Cena passing by Ric Flair's record especially when it took a long time for Ric Flair to obtain that status. It would make it seem worthless from all of that time Ric Flair has invested.

Azul Fria : This is why I watch it on live streams sometimes. I don't think it is worth paying to watch or maybe because I love saving my money.

geeogree :
Awesome-Kid :
Cesaro is one of my favorite wrestlers at the moment and I think it's sad that he got his push lowered. He had so much hype with him being the king of swings. He has the look and wrestling ability to be a suitable champion. I do miss those long intimate rivalries in the past like what geeogree said. It really connects with the crowd and plus it makes the rivalry and entertainment more intense. Maybe if this were to happen, this wouldn't lead to the crowd picking other feuds between other wrestlers. I don't like to see Cena passing by Ric Flair's record especially when it took a long time for Ric Flair to obtain that status. It would make it seem worthless from all of that time Ric Flair has invested.

Azul Fria : This is why I watch it on live streams sometimes. I don't think it is worth paying to watch or maybe because I love saving my money.

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