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10-15-14 06:03 PM
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The Back and Forth Posting Limit needed some adjustments. For those who don't know what this limit is, it prevents you from making too many back and forth posts in a single thread.

Here are the current limits based on forum:
3 = Crazy House, Vizzed Market, Polls and Questions, Web Splurge, Stories / Simulation / Art
5 = Help / Question - Comment / Suggestion, Retro Game Room
4 = All other forums

These limits have all been increased by 1. These numbers represent how many back and forth posts you can make. The limit is tripled if it's your own thread (it was previously double) and staff members do not have a limit.

If you guys think these numbers need to be adjusted, please let me know.
The Back and Forth Posting Limit needed some adjustments. For those who don't know what this limit is, it prevents you from making too many back and forth posts in a single thread.

Here are the current limits based on forum:
3 = Crazy House, Vizzed Market, Polls and Questions, Web Splurge, Stories / Simulation / Art
5 = Help / Question - Comment / Suggestion, Retro Game Room
4 = All other forums

These limits have all been increased by 1. These numbers represent how many back and forth posts you can make. The limit is tripled if it's your own thread (it was previously double) and staff members do not have a limit.

If you guys think these numbers need to be adjusted, please let me know.
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10-15-14 06:13 PM
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It's better, but it's still kind of annoying.

I can't answer a question in my Ask Anything right now because I have too many back and forths (In Innocent Town, which is my rented forum).

I'd suggest making the back and forth posts limitless for rented forums (or at least for their moderators)
It's better, but it's still kind of annoying.

I can't answer a question in my Ask Anything right now because I have too many back and forths (In Innocent Town, which is my rented forum).

I'd suggest making the back and forth posts limitless for rented forums (or at least for their moderators)
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legacyme3 : I want to keep the limit for rented forums but what if I triple the limit (instead of double) for when you reply to your own thread?
legacyme3 : I want to keep the limit for rented forums but what if I triple the limit (instead of double) for when you reply to your own thread?
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Davideo7 :

I wouldn't go as far as tripling it (In Your Forum, this might come in handy, due to it being where blogs are posted), but I wouldn't rule it out either.

Maybe put it on a trial period. If the staff finds too many people are abusing it, we could change it back.

I'd rather the rules be less restrictive, but the moderation be more active. If people abuse it, they should be punished. While some things should be preventative, we should also be able to have faith in our community.

Again, I'd just suggest a trial period.
Davideo7 :

I wouldn't go as far as tripling it (In Your Forum, this might come in handy, due to it being where blogs are posted), but I wouldn't rule it out either.

Maybe put it on a trial period. If the staff finds too many people are abusing it, we could change it back.

I'd rather the rules be less restrictive, but the moderation be more active. If people abuse it, they should be punished. While some things should be preventative, we should also be able to have faith in our community.

Again, I'd just suggest a trial period.
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legacyme3 : I've tripled the limit, we'll see how it goes.
legacyme3 : I've tripled the limit, we'll see how it goes.
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Ok, so, I get the I can post back and forth 5 times in Help Forum, but, if it's my thread, I can essentially sandwich post 15 times? Am I understanding this correctly? 
Ok, so, I get the I can post back and forth 5 times in Help Forum, but, if it's my thread, I can essentially sandwich post 15 times? Am I understanding this correctly? 
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thing1 : That is correct.
thing1 : That is correct.
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I'm glad the limit was increased for the help forums, but I'm not so sure how I feel about it being increased for the Crazy House.

By the way, for those that don't want to read through the whole thread... you might want to correct a typo you made in your first post, because it's confusing upon first read.  You wrote "The limit is tripled if it's your own post"  when you meant "The limit is tripled if it's your own thread"
I'm glad the limit was increased for the help forums, but I'm not so sure how I feel about it being increased for the Crazy House.

By the way, for those that don't want to read through the whole thread... you might want to correct a typo you made in your first post, because it's confusing upon first read.  You wrote "The limit is tripled if it's your own post"  when you meant "The limit is tripled if it's your own thread"
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Singelli : lol thanks for catching that.
Singelli : lol thanks for catching that.
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Wow I didn't know there where rules on things like this.  I did know that waaaayyyy back when I was new on here I sandwiched posted and got reamed by some other users so have avoided it like the plague since then.  It is nice to know that I can get away with it at least a couple of times officially.
Wow I didn't know there where rules on things like this.  I did know that waaaayyyy back when I was new on here I sandwiched posted and got reamed by some other users so have avoided it like the plague since then.  It is nice to know that I can get away with it at least a couple of times officially.
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fightorace : The script actually just prevents you from sandwich posting too much. In other words, once you reach the limit, you cannot make any more posts in the thread.
fightorace : The script actually just prevents you from sandwich posting too much. In other words, once you reach the limit, you cannot make any more posts in the thread.
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I think that the stories one should be moved up to 4 like all of the other forums.
I think that the stories one should be moved up to 4 like all of the other forums.
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Davideo7 : Sounds good to me, I've noticed that it makes it a little harder to keep playing the games in the games forum...
Davideo7 : Sounds good to me, I've noticed that it makes it a little harder to keep playing the games in the games forum...
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FaithFighter : That's probably a good thing because some forum games can be pretty spammy.
FaithFighter : That's probably a good thing because some forum games can be pretty spammy.
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Oh okay, I thought that the limit was only twice for the most part. Now that I came across this thread, I know it. Never thought that other forums and threads had different number amount of limits as well.

Is this update permanent or temporary for the most part or are you just testing it out?
Oh okay, I thought that the limit was only twice for the most part. Now that I came across this thread, I know it. Never thought that other forums and threads had different number amount of limits as well.

Is this update permanent or temporary for the most part or are you just testing it out?
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I'll post an update here.

So far, in circles I frequent, I haven't seen Back and Forth Posting abused. In fact, most people haven't changed their habits at all.

I'm genuinely shocked more people aren't abusing this since it's the TDV and all.
I'll post an update here.

So far, in circles I frequent, I haven't seen Back and Forth Posting abused. In fact, most people haven't changed their habits at all.

I'm genuinely shocked more people aren't abusing this since it's the TDV and all.
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legacyme3 : I think it is just because  the participants are trying to be careful and not to get disqualified in general. It would seriously stink if one gets disqualified especially when we are near at the end of the month.
legacyme3 : I think it is just because  the participants are trying to be careful and not to get disqualified in general. It would seriously stink if one gets disqualified especially when we are near at the end of the month.
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Davideo7 :

If I may say, the back and forth posting is kindof a hindrance to one on one RPs and really slowed mine down at points just cause it was a pain trying to get someone to bump it.

It would be nice if something could be done about that.

Maybe there should be an option to mark a thread as an RP thread, thus allowing sandwich posting. Possibly only between two individuals.

If I may say so, RPs I really think encourage activity as well. It keeps people interested in the world that they grew up in, and they want to discuss the dynamics of such a world because of it.

It would be nice to see more deep discussion about games like the Legend of Zelda and Final Fantasy on Vizzed. ^^"

Honestly, I found the sandwich posting thing unnecessary, cause people didn't abuse it in the first place. And now when people have a good reason to do so, they can't.
Davideo7 :

If I may say, the back and forth posting is kindof a hindrance to one on one RPs and really slowed mine down at points just cause it was a pain trying to get someone to bump it.

It would be nice if something could be done about that.

Maybe there should be an option to mark a thread as an RP thread, thus allowing sandwich posting. Possibly only between two individuals.

If I may say so, RPs I really think encourage activity as well. It keeps people interested in the world that they grew up in, and they want to discuss the dynamics of such a world because of it.

It would be nice to see more deep discussion about games like the Legend of Zelda and Final Fantasy on Vizzed. ^^"

Honestly, I found the sandwich posting thing unnecessary, cause people didn't abuse it in the first place. And now when people have a good reason to do so, they can't.
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I'm late to this conversation but in my defense I stick to new posts and this just now popped up for me. I'd like to add a suggestion that's related to this and I've asked locals to bring it up at the next staff meeting several times but I'm not sure if you're aware of the issue David.

In Your Forum - Post About Yourself / Thread Sub-forum: Blogs (specifically but there may be other areas that this would be beneficial) -
It's incredibly frustrating when you're trying to stir up conversation about your blog or even add an update but there is no double posting allowed. Now, If no one will reply to a users posts in their blog maybe this is a sign that no one is interested but it could also be that it's dropped off of new posts and is near the end of the first page in its forum. If its the latter, there may be people that are just casual users who don't make a habit of looking in the dark corners of this site and won't know the thread exists unless it's kickstarted again.

My threads are like children to me, I don't want a million bad ones just a few that are good and it bugs me when they get rejected and ignored. Having said that, I think there are instances where the typical user should be allowed to double post or even triple post in a thread that they created.

This concern that I have is slightly related to sandwich posting and I hope I'm not out of line bringing it up in this thread.
I'm late to this conversation but in my defense I stick to new posts and this just now popped up for me. I'd like to add a suggestion that's related to this and I've asked locals to bring it up at the next staff meeting several times but I'm not sure if you're aware of the issue David.

In Your Forum - Post About Yourself / Thread Sub-forum: Blogs (specifically but there may be other areas that this would be beneficial) -
It's incredibly frustrating when you're trying to stir up conversation about your blog or even add an update but there is no double posting allowed. Now, If no one will reply to a users posts in their blog maybe this is a sign that no one is interested but it could also be that it's dropped off of new posts and is near the end of the first page in its forum. If its the latter, there may be people that are just casual users who don't make a habit of looking in the dark corners of this site and won't know the thread exists unless it's kickstarted again.

My threads are like children to me, I don't want a million bad ones just a few that are good and it bugs me when they get rejected and ignored. Having said that, I think there are instances where the typical user should be allowed to double post or even triple post in a thread that they created.

This concern that I have is slightly related to sandwich posting and I hope I'm not out of line bringing it up in this thread.
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ghostfishy : The limits have been around for a while and are permanent. I am willing to make adjustments though.

Sword legion : If it's your own thread then your limits are tripled. RPs where the same 2 users are posting back and forth probably shouldn't be allowed. If only 2 users are posting back and forth in a thread then that thread could just be continued via PM.

Sandwich posting has been an issue and has been abused in the past many times. I just think that if a conversation is going to be between 2 users and no one else then it should be done via PM unless there's a specific reason why the public should be seeing 2 people talk back and forth.

thephantombrain : That's a great idea, I just made it so that users can double post in their own threads (I'm going to make a post about that soon too). Yeah I really want to encourage more users to blog on the site and I plan to add a section profiles eventually where it shows all of a user's blog threads.
ghostfishy : The limits have been around for a while and are permanent. I am willing to make adjustments though.

Sword legion : If it's your own thread then your limits are tripled. RPs where the same 2 users are posting back and forth probably shouldn't be allowed. If only 2 users are posting back and forth in a thread then that thread could just be continued via PM.

Sandwich posting has been an issue and has been abused in the past many times. I just think that if a conversation is going to be between 2 users and no one else then it should be done via PM unless there's a specific reason why the public should be seeing 2 people talk back and forth.

thephantombrain : That's a great idea, I just made it so that users can double post in their own threads (I'm going to make a post about that soon too). Yeah I really want to encourage more users to blog on the site and I plan to add a section profiles eventually where it shows all of a user's blog threads.
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