Hey there, I did not know where to put this thread as The christian religion is not the only religion that believes in Jesus, The chatolics believe in Jesus and So  Do the muslims, I am a muslim. However we don't believe that he was the son of god, And that just makes more sense to me. he is a prophet.

Also, Jesus most likely had dark hair and dark eyes, Not blonde and blue eyes.

I do believe in him, but I was wondering what the "chatolicts" are. Do you mean the Catholic Church? Which is a sect of Christianity, they don't believe in an all-powerful loving God, they believe that Jesus wants to kill everyone, which is why they pray to Mary, not God. I am leaning more towards the Baptist ideas, although I wouldn't label myself as one, because of some Baptists not doing what they should

yes i am because he create us.

darthyoda :
I think you are confused by the differences between Catholicism and protestantism.
They arent even wildly different.

imamonster : I am Muslim too and I believe in Jesus. The question is, if people believe that Jesus is the son of God, doesn't mean that his mother is the wife of God ?

thenumberone : Actually they are, according to Catholics, Jesus and God are hating and killing, and Mary is the only one who can step between us and God. According to the Lutherans, God is just, but not a hating murderous God. The difference is enough that it is almost completely wrong. Although both do have some right teachings both are not completely on mark. Just to clarify, the Baptists aren't actually protestants, they were around before the Catholic and Lutheran Church.

darthyoda :
While some Catholics may feel that the vast majority do not.
The core differences between catholicism and protestantism is simply:
1.How literally things should be interpreted,
2.Who has the right to discuss church doctrine,
3.Some different rules, such as contraception.

http://www.diffen.com/difference/Catholic_vs_Protestant

darthyoda : My mother used to be catholic, And, I don't think that that is true. My mother told me other things.
marriane26: Your grammar makes you a bit hard to understand. And what do you mean by, He created us. I know no religion that says that. I respect your opinion but please elaborate more.

I'm not a religious person or anything, but I believe Jesus was a real person but some of the stories created around/about him aren't real. I can believe that he spoke to many people and told stories, amongst other verbal things, but feeling people by touching or doing anything without medicinal help sounds a bit too far-fetched to me.
If we could go back in time and witness/record his life and it proves that he done everything the Bible claimed he had done, then I'd reconsider my position/opinion on the matter.

marianne26 : Jesus didn't create us, there's proof that humans were living before Jesus was said to have come into this world over over two thousand years ago. I think you're confusing Jesus with God/other deity's, or even evolution for those who believe in that path of humans (which is another topic for another time)

greenluigi : That's actually an interesting thought, maybe (the Virgin) Mary was sent to Earth by God...

And that leads to me another query about Jesus being the son of God, why did God choose Mary and how did she get pregnant whilst still being a virgin?
So many open questions and so much potential discussion :3

greenluigi : It doesn't mean that at all. The Bible says that God knits each of us together in our mothers' wombs, that doesn't mean our moms are all married to God. Also, you're assuming that God is required to act within our limits. God can do anything He wants, regardless of how our world or universe works. If God is truly God, then He cannot be defined by our rules as we are.

Sparky15756 : If Jesus is real, and He is really God, then why couldn't He do things (such as heal people) that transcend the limits of our universe and world? If God is defined by our limits for any reason other than His own choice, He is not truly God.

Yes, there were humans around before Jesus. However, again assuming Jesus is God (as the Bible says), then Jesus was around long before His time on earth. God wouldn't have to be on earth to create things, He did create the earth after all.

mrfe : Well yes, God has the power of everything. I didn't said that God has limits. He's superior than all of us.

greenluigi : You suggested that, because Mary was a virgin mother, that she was married to God.

"The question is, if people believe that Jesus is the son of God, doesn't mean that his mother is the wife of God?"

I was saying that God doesn't have to act within our limits, meaning He doesn't have to be married to knit a baby together or make Mary pregnant. You suggested that pregnancy = marriage, but it doesn't necessarily. God transcends our laws, our limits, etc. He isn't confined to act within them.

imamonster :
Sparky15756 :

Just so that we are on the same page, you all do realize that the Bible and Christianity has the belief that Jesus is God Himself and is divine, right? scripture explicitly talks about how Jesus was the one who creates and was there during Creation (John 1, Colossians 1:16), which is one of the reasons why there is the belief of the Trinity (God is Father, Son, Holy Spirit, but all of them are distinct)

play4fun : I wasn't aware of that one, I do apologize if I seemed a bit uneducated - I skipped parts of R.E. in school because they refused to teach us about other religions especially when we had a few Muslim students and I was interested in learning about their beliefs.
I'd still want to learn more about religion, as a whole, now that I've got a more mature, and open, mind, but I don't want to be sitting in a Church once a week when I can talk directly to people about it and ask questions as I go along - if you catch what I mean.

Though I'm curious to which branch of Christianity (for a lack of better wording) talks about Adam and Eve, unless they're all linked to the same scripture? (I really sound like I'm uneducated, haha)

Sparky15756 : Well, church is mainly for Christians anyways. And also people who are seekers to Christianity, but mainly church is place of worship for Christians.

And...it should be any Christian denomination? since Adam and Eve is in the Bible.

Do I believe in Jesus? Yes.
Most religions talk about Jesus in some form or another, ones that are monotheistic that is. Muslims, Mormons, Jews, believe he was a prophet. A teacher.?
Most Christian Circles(and I'm putting all of them together as a whole) believe that he wasn't just a prophet, but the son of God.?
Then you have people who don't believe in him at all-for understanding reasons.?

I also agree that Jesus was not a white man, it would not have been possible. Given the time period that he was alive, and the places he went to, he would have been middle eastern. Nothing wrong with that. ^.^

Now onto a bit of what I've been reading for different responses.?
Was Mary married to God??

Yes and No. Yes because it says that we are all the Bride of Christ, so that would make sense.?
No, because she was engaged to Joseph-her soon to be husband. It says that an Angel came and spoke to her, saying that she would become pregnant-even though she was a virgin. But how is this possible? Well if you believe in God, believe in Jesus, it's not impossible. I'm of the opinion that God is God. We cannot confine him in a box, and his was are greater than his Book.?

tornadocam : Genesis, in the Bible, talks about Adam and Eve. Doesn't matter what denomination of Christianity you are looking into, it will almost always be spoken of. I think the Koran speaks about it too, but I'm not Muslim so I don't know. (Does it, imamonster?). And then you have the Torah(which is the first five books of the Bible), and it speaks of it as well(this is Judaism).?
By the way you do not sound uneducated, at least to me. There is no such thing as a stupid question. I'm glad you ask on a forum like this, where you have people from all different walks of life, rather than going to a church. I'm not saying church is bad, but some-unfortunately- don't have a grid for people with questions. Nothing wrong with that, just how they are. It doesn't matter the denomination.?

Where I'm about to go is going into some theological talk, as well as my own opinion. I suggest that if you offend easily, or you do not agree, you don't read what I'm about to say.


"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.(NIV John 1:1)"

Let's talk about the Trinity for a second. You have Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. (then Christina, why are you bringing up John 1:1?) I believe that the Son is the Word. He is the living Word. He was able to do these miracles, speak to many, because not only did he have the Father in him, but he also let the Father work through him. I believe this, because I've seen miracles happen in times like today. I've seen people let Holy Spirit move through them and speak the Word of the Lord, prophesying over churches, etc.?

So, to me, nothing is beyond the realm of possibility.?

(What does this have to do with the topic at hand though?)

Simple, to understand who Jesus is, we need to understand who the Father is, who Holy Spirit is. We need to have relationship with him, because his Word is bigger than his Bible.?

We can discuss all day about who Jesus was(and is), God was(and is), if Holy Spirit is even real(let's talk about how he's mentioned several times in the Bible), but if we don't let ourselves see him outside the Word, then we don't realize that there is more to him than just that.?

So, back to the original question.

Do I believe in Jesus? Yes, yes I do. I don't only believe in him, but I also have relationship with him. He's my best friend, my confidant, my brother, my groom.?

imamonster: I do believe in JESUS. I know that we are not the only ones to believe he exists.  However, I do not just believe that he exists I believe that HE is the SON of GOD. Why? because I know HE existed. I know HE knew no sin. And if HE isn't the SON of GOD like HE claimed and announced that HE was. Then HE can't be a prophet or a good man. First off, for a prophet to equate himself with GOD if HE wasn't that would...well...make him a blasphemer and a FALSE prophet. And He would not be a good man either; but the most arrogant and prideful liar ever to exist. I do respect the Muslim culture; most of you just strive to live a good life and pray a lot. That is definitely commendable in my opinion. But I still believe there to be a few holes with this belief. GOD bless.

FaithFighter : Alright, I don't believe that Jesus said that he was the son of god, So with all due respect, Makes your argument lose many of it's purpose. However, I respect your opinion.