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Ok don't try and cheer me up, that ain't gonna work, I'm looking for serious and helpful answers. I have a BMI of 41, and I weigh 255.6, with no controllable outside factors, and am 5ft6. I've tried again and again to bootcamp myself, but its hopeless, none of my family supports me anymore, and my friends don't know or care enough to impact me. I feel ad if there's no hope for me, I have literally exhausted numerous self control methods, such as chewing gum when I feel hungry, harming punishing myself for eating or being lazy, to even thinking of starving children when I snack and excess portions. Nothing works for me, I can't stick to a diet to save my life nor regularly workout. I don't know what went wrong, I used to be 137, and have plenty more lean muscle, but ever since an incident that will not be disclosed, I've been lazy and started eating regularly. I don't want any BS about it being the fact that I smoke, I don't want to hear it, I started long before I became the person I am. If you took the time to read this, kudos no cookies will be given, but kudos to you. I just need advice from anyone, whether you're a bodybuilder, or have been in a situation similar please help me out.
Ok don't try and cheer me up, that ain't gonna work, I'm looking for serious and helpful answers. I have a BMI of 41, and I weigh 255.6, with no controllable outside factors, and am 5ft6. I've tried again and again to bootcamp myself, but its hopeless, none of my family supports me anymore, and my friends don't know or care enough to impact me. I feel ad if there's no hope for me, I have literally exhausted numerous self control methods, such as chewing gum when I feel hungry, harming punishing myself for eating or being lazy, to even thinking of starving children when I snack and excess portions. Nothing works for me, I can't stick to a diet to save my life nor regularly workout. I don't know what went wrong, I used to be 137, and have plenty more lean muscle, but ever since an incident that will not be disclosed, I've been lazy and started eating regularly. I don't want any BS about it being the fact that I smoke, I don't want to hear it, I started long before I became the person I am. If you took the time to read this, kudos no cookies will be given, but kudos to you. I just need advice from anyone, whether you're a bodybuilder, or have been in a situation similar please help me out.
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I used to weight 198 pounds when I went to college and the need to lose weight has been on mind ever since then. My mother lost a whole bunch of weight by doing this I don't know if it will work with you but it did with me.

1)Drink plenty of water, I'm sure you heard this plenty of times but it's true.

2)Don't eat after 6 pm, I don't know why but eating late has always been the pound packer

3)Go to bed hungry, It's a pretty crazy idea but it actually works. You tend to burn more calories when you sleep

4) I don't know if you drink tea but herbal tea works

If you stick to those rules it will help, and I really didn't even have to exercise or work out excessively. I hope this helps you in some way.
I used to weight 198 pounds when I went to college and the need to lose weight has been on mind ever since then. My mother lost a whole bunch of weight by doing this I don't know if it will work with you but it did with me.

1)Drink plenty of water, I'm sure you heard this plenty of times but it's true.

2)Don't eat after 6 pm, I don't know why but eating late has always been the pound packer

3)Go to bed hungry, It's a pretty crazy idea but it actually works. You tend to burn more calories when you sleep

4) I don't know if you drink tea but herbal tea works

If you stick to those rules it will help, and I really didn't even have to exercise or work out excessively. I hope this helps you in some way.
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   It sounds really difficult, but try going vegetarian. It's surprisingly easy if you can convince someone to do it with you. Not only is meat not very good for you, but many unhealthy processed foods contain meat. If you're staunch enough about it, you will read labels to check if there are meat products and you may find something that will turn you off of a product. Secondly, many replacement foods (tofu if you like it, this stuff called tvp, and fake meats) are often low in fat and/or calories. My mom went vegan (better effect on health, but more difficult and expensive) and lost 30 lbs in four months with no other changes. It doesn't seem like much but in terms of a lifestyle it puts your baseline weight much lower. I didn't need to lose any weight by any means, but I lost 10 lbs in the same amount of time.

   You should also try to get into cooking your own foods. I don't know your exact situation on it, but many people gain weight because they are eating pre made foods with ridiculous amounts of fat, sodium, calories, etc. If you make your own food, you have much more control over what is in your food, plus it's fun to come up with your own spin on meals and I often cook with friends. Even something like pizza can be SO much better for you (and better tasting, and cheaper) if you make it yourself. Plus, you can have a different thing every day if you want if you get good at spices. This week I made pasta with a white sauce four separate times (horrible cravings) and it was completely different each time as I messed with the recipe. On top of that, the Internet is full of recipes for healthy things that are also really awesome. Honestly, if you make your own food, you will end up eating much healthier food without even trying. Plus anyone who can cook is instantly ten times more attractive. Just saying.

I'm not some kind of hippie or professional chef, but I can still strongly recommend these things. Personally, I would leave any big deal exercise (like working out or jogging) until you feel good enough about yourself. I know how difficult it can be to gather the courage to do that kind of thing. Good luck in your weight loss, I know how hard it can be and I sincerely hope you can overcome this.

   It sounds really difficult, but try going vegetarian. It's surprisingly easy if you can convince someone to do it with you. Not only is meat not very good for you, but many unhealthy processed foods contain meat. If you're staunch enough about it, you will read labels to check if there are meat products and you may find something that will turn you off of a product. Secondly, many replacement foods (tofu if you like it, this stuff called tvp, and fake meats) are often low in fat and/or calories. My mom went vegan (better effect on health, but more difficult and expensive) and lost 30 lbs in four months with no other changes. It doesn't seem like much but in terms of a lifestyle it puts your baseline weight much lower. I didn't need to lose any weight by any means, but I lost 10 lbs in the same amount of time.

   You should also try to get into cooking your own foods. I don't know your exact situation on it, but many people gain weight because they are eating pre made foods with ridiculous amounts of fat, sodium, calories, etc. If you make your own food, you have much more control over what is in your food, plus it's fun to come up with your own spin on meals and I often cook with friends. Even something like pizza can be SO much better for you (and better tasting, and cheaper) if you make it yourself. Plus, you can have a different thing every day if you want if you get good at spices. This week I made pasta with a white sauce four separate times (horrible cravings) and it was completely different each time as I messed with the recipe. On top of that, the Internet is full of recipes for healthy things that are also really awesome. Honestly, if you make your own food, you will end up eating much healthier food without even trying. Plus anyone who can cook is instantly ten times more attractive. Just saying.

I'm not some kind of hippie or professional chef, but I can still strongly recommend these things. Personally, I would leave any big deal exercise (like working out or jogging) until you feel good enough about yourself. I know how difficult it can be to gather the courage to do that kind of thing. Good luck in your weight loss, I know how hard it can be and I sincerely hope you can overcome this.

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I've found quite a few factors to help me out on my fitness journey.  As odd as it sounds, one of the biggest 'helpers' in losing weight..... in my own opinion of course... is an accountability partner.  I can't tell you how much the support of my friends and family helps me push along and stay motivated to work on my health.  I've been biking, jogging, and trying to eat less / eat healthier.  It's hard though. I often become determined.... work on everything for a couple of weeks, and then start making excuses.  The second most helpful action, thus, is no compromise!  Compromise leads to habit.

Also, you need to find something that works for YOU.  I remember when I first started trying to get into shape, I used a treadmill.  My motivation and perseverance roller-coastered and I could not reason through the inability to stay determined. It was only when I bought a bike that I realized the difference attitude can make.  I LOVE being outdoors, and I love biking; hence... I haven't felt my motivation wane in about a month, and I've lost 9 pounds!  I've been using trackers like myfitnesspal, S Health, mapmywalk, and Couch-to-5k. They'll help you monitor calories eaten and calories burned; and two of them will even give you mission-styled goals.  Being able to SEE my progress and monitor the numbers is really helpful to someone like me.  I'm not saying it's a 'cure' for everyone, but maybe it can help?  

So my top four suggestion:

1.  Get an accountability partner (or more than one) to cheer you on and maybe even participate WITH you.
2.  NO COMPROMISING!
3.  Find something that keeps you smiling and motivated.  If push ups don't work, try pull ups.  If jogging in place doesn't work, try jumping jacks.  If walking doesn't work, try biking; etc.
4.  Use some kind of calorie and exercise tracker. I like the four I suggested of course, but those might not work for you.  Search around and experiment with various apps and websites until you find something you like.


Of course, as many people will tell you... exercise, eat less, eat healthier, and drink more water (less soda!).

I think those are the obvious and that you're having trouble with motivation which is why I made the suggestions I did.

(By the way, if you can't make yourself exercise, you CAN still lose weight by watching what you eat and how much you eat.  If you try using myfitnesspal, it will ask you various questions about your weight, age, activity level, and goals. It will then give you a goal calorie number.  If you consume THAT number of calories, you will still slowly lose weight.  There are several other apps that will do the same thing, and many will probably give you varying numbers.  As long as you track your calories eaten and burned... and you end up with a deficit, you will stop gaining and start losing.)

Good luck!  If you need any encouragement, try seeing my Fitness Accountability 2.0 thread.
I've found quite a few factors to help me out on my fitness journey.  As odd as it sounds, one of the biggest 'helpers' in losing weight..... in my own opinion of course... is an accountability partner.  I can't tell you how much the support of my friends and family helps me push along and stay motivated to work on my health.  I've been biking, jogging, and trying to eat less / eat healthier.  It's hard though. I often become determined.... work on everything for a couple of weeks, and then start making excuses.  The second most helpful action, thus, is no compromise!  Compromise leads to habit.

Also, you need to find something that works for YOU.  I remember when I first started trying to get into shape, I used a treadmill.  My motivation and perseverance roller-coastered and I could not reason through the inability to stay determined. It was only when I bought a bike that I realized the difference attitude can make.  I LOVE being outdoors, and I love biking; hence... I haven't felt my motivation wane in about a month, and I've lost 9 pounds!  I've been using trackers like myfitnesspal, S Health, mapmywalk, and Couch-to-5k. They'll help you monitor calories eaten and calories burned; and two of them will even give you mission-styled goals.  Being able to SEE my progress and monitor the numbers is really helpful to someone like me.  I'm not saying it's a 'cure' for everyone, but maybe it can help?  

So my top four suggestion:

1.  Get an accountability partner (or more than one) to cheer you on and maybe even participate WITH you.
2.  NO COMPROMISING!
3.  Find something that keeps you smiling and motivated.  If push ups don't work, try pull ups.  If jogging in place doesn't work, try jumping jacks.  If walking doesn't work, try biking; etc.
4.  Use some kind of calorie and exercise tracker. I like the four I suggested of course, but those might not work for you.  Search around and experiment with various apps and websites until you find something you like.


Of course, as many people will tell you... exercise, eat less, eat healthier, and drink more water (less soda!).

I think those are the obvious and that you're having trouble with motivation which is why I made the suggestions I did.

(By the way, if you can't make yourself exercise, you CAN still lose weight by watching what you eat and how much you eat.  If you try using myfitnesspal, it will ask you various questions about your weight, age, activity level, and goals. It will then give you a goal calorie number.  If you consume THAT number of calories, you will still slowly lose weight.  There are several other apps that will do the same thing, and many will probably give you varying numbers.  As long as you track your calories eaten and burned... and you end up with a deficit, you will stop gaining and start losing.)

Good luck!  If you need any encouragement, try seeing my Fitness Accountability 2.0 thread.
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There were a couple of things I forgot to mention:

First, don't expect weight to just come flying off.  I think part of the problem for many people, is that it's difficult to notice the results.  Losing weight and getting fit is a very time-consuming process.  You might only lose a pound or two every month, and that may be difficult to cope with.  If the weight drops slowly, don't be discouraged.  It's weight lost!  Heck, even maintaining weight is better than gaining, right?

Also, it's not all that unusual to work super hard and not lose weight... especially if you are strength training.  As you become more fit, your body develops more muscle/ stronger muscles.... And muscles weigh more. You might shed fat and gain some muscle, causing your weight to remain the same.  That's why it's important not to be discouraged!  Keep at it, and with the right heart and attitude, you'll get there!

Find some purpose.  WHY do you want to get into shape?  Is it because you're not happy with yourself physically?  Is it because you want to be fit enough to take care of others?  Are you worried about the impression you give others? Do you simply want to take care of yourself (for yourself, someone you love, or God)?

Whatever your reason, find it and cling tight to it!
There were a couple of things I forgot to mention:

First, don't expect weight to just come flying off.  I think part of the problem for many people, is that it's difficult to notice the results.  Losing weight and getting fit is a very time-consuming process.  You might only lose a pound or two every month, and that may be difficult to cope with.  If the weight drops slowly, don't be discouraged.  It's weight lost!  Heck, even maintaining weight is better than gaining, right?

Also, it's not all that unusual to work super hard and not lose weight... especially if you are strength training.  As you become more fit, your body develops more muscle/ stronger muscles.... And muscles weigh more. You might shed fat and gain some muscle, causing your weight to remain the same.  That's why it's important not to be discouraged!  Keep at it, and with the right heart and attitude, you'll get there!

Find some purpose.  WHY do you want to get into shape?  Is it because you're not happy with yourself physically?  Is it because you want to be fit enough to take care of others?  Are you worried about the impression you give others? Do you simply want to take care of yourself (for yourself, someone you love, or God)?

Whatever your reason, find it and cling tight to it!
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                           Luckily, you're a boy, meaning that weight will be slightly easier to lose. And a trick that my mom taught me but you should use in combination with other things......drink a tall glass of water before eating as it makes you feel fuller and you don't want to eat as much.
                           Luckily, you're a boy, meaning that weight will be slightly easier to lose. And a trick that my mom taught me but you should use in combination with other things......drink a tall glass of water before eating as it makes you feel fuller and you don't want to eat as much.
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Sounds to me like you're depressed. Punishing yourself won't work long-term, I promise you that. You need to find motivations that keep you going, such as family, friends, and others. The people you count on today may someday be the people who count on you. And that feeling that you get by being someone somebody can count on is a good one. It is one that has often eluded me, but I'm trying harder these days to be that person. I'm not perfect, but I try. Just try your best! You'll get there some day if you do. Even if you stay morbidly obese all your life, if somebody can count on you for something, no matter how small, your efforts will be worth it.
Sounds to me like you're depressed. Punishing yourself won't work long-term, I promise you that. You need to find motivations that keep you going, such as family, friends, and others. The people you count on today may someday be the people who count on you. And that feeling that you get by being someone somebody can count on is a good one. It is one that has often eluded me, but I'm trying harder these days to be that person. I'm not perfect, but I try. Just try your best! You'll get there some day if you do. Even if you stay morbidly obese all your life, if somebody can count on you for something, no matter how small, your efforts will be worth it.
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There are some good suggestions here, but I didn't read all of them, just portions. So forgive me if I repeat anyone else, but here goes:

First off, this is what worked for me personally, but everyone is different. I was 235 pounds and six feet tall. I lost eighty pounds in a year doing some of these very things.
-Stop drinking soda unless it's diet. No, diet soda isn't the death drink most people say. It satisfies your need for soda if you drink soda a lot, and it cuts out about a half-meal's worth of calories with each can you would normally drink.

-Count calories, and make yourself work out enough to burn 100% of the calories you consume everyday. Don't worry as much about how many calories you consume as you do about calories you burn. Also remember that anything you cut out of your normal diet will result in some amount of weight loss.
A good tool for this tip (if you have an Android device) is "Calories Burned Calculator". It let's you keep a log of what you've eaten that day as well as telling you how many calories you've burned. There are probably similar tools online or on ios.

-Positive reinforcement. If you have someone that will tell you how good you're doing when you start losing weight, it will make a huge difference in helping you want to keep doing it. As Singelli said, having someone you're accountable to is a good thing if no one else will support you.

-Eat plenty of fiber. It literally flushes fat out of your system. My main thing was eating beans or peas everyday. Try to get close to thirty grams of fiber a day.

-Take vitamin B 12 supplements.

-Eat plenty of protein. Also a huge presence in beans and peas.


Things I read that I agree with
-Drink plenty of water. Take your weight in pounds, divide that number in half and drink that many ounces a day. So you weigh 255? Drink 127 ounces a day. I know it's a lot, but it helps. Trust me.

-Drink a glass of water before a meal. Also a good tip.


However, I became a vegetarian, and lost no weight as a result. I think it all depends on how much meat you're eating, and what kinds/how it's made.

Also, eating after six isn't bad, as long as you don't eat more calories than you'll burn before bed time. Never eat more calories than you'll burn before bed time.


As for motivation, the buddy system is great. If you need someone to work with, I'll gladly help.


If you read nothing else I said, read this.
Get plenty of protein, close to thirty grams of fiber a day, drink plenty of water, and exercise. If nothing else, walk around the house while playing a handheld game system or something. And never eat more calories at night than you can burn before going to bed. Good luck, man.


EDIT: I said B 1. I meant B 12.
There are some good suggestions here, but I didn't read all of them, just portions. So forgive me if I repeat anyone else, but here goes:

First off, this is what worked for me personally, but everyone is different. I was 235 pounds and six feet tall. I lost eighty pounds in a year doing some of these very things.
-Stop drinking soda unless it's diet. No, diet soda isn't the death drink most people say. It satisfies your need for soda if you drink soda a lot, and it cuts out about a half-meal's worth of calories with each can you would normally drink.

-Count calories, and make yourself work out enough to burn 100% of the calories you consume everyday. Don't worry as much about how many calories you consume as you do about calories you burn. Also remember that anything you cut out of your normal diet will result in some amount of weight loss.
A good tool for this tip (if you have an Android device) is "Calories Burned Calculator". It let's you keep a log of what you've eaten that day as well as telling you how many calories you've burned. There are probably similar tools online or on ios.

-Positive reinforcement. If you have someone that will tell you how good you're doing when you start losing weight, it will make a huge difference in helping you want to keep doing it. As Singelli said, having someone you're accountable to is a good thing if no one else will support you.

-Eat plenty of fiber. It literally flushes fat out of your system. My main thing was eating beans or peas everyday. Try to get close to thirty grams of fiber a day.

-Take vitamin B 12 supplements.

-Eat plenty of protein. Also a huge presence in beans and peas.


Things I read that I agree with
-Drink plenty of water. Take your weight in pounds, divide that number in half and drink that many ounces a day. So you weigh 255? Drink 127 ounces a day. I know it's a lot, but it helps. Trust me.

-Drink a glass of water before a meal. Also a good tip.


However, I became a vegetarian, and lost no weight as a result. I think it all depends on how much meat you're eating, and what kinds/how it's made.

Also, eating after six isn't bad, as long as you don't eat more calories than you'll burn before bed time. Never eat more calories than you'll burn before bed time.


As for motivation, the buddy system is great. If you need someone to work with, I'll gladly help.


If you read nothing else I said, read this.
Get plenty of protein, close to thirty grams of fiber a day, drink plenty of water, and exercise. If nothing else, walk around the house while playing a handheld game system or something. And never eat more calories at night than you can burn before going to bed. Good luck, man.


EDIT: I said B 1. I meant B 12.
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Singelli had a lot of great points in her post, so I'd like to piggyback off her as well as what I tell my patients when I'm in the office.

First, you have to realize this will be a long process. You didn't gain all your weight over a week or two, so it isn't going to be quick. In general, a healthy amount of weight loss is only about 2 pounds a week. That's it. So how do you approach this.
In the medical literature, all of the different diet fads have been studied and compared all of them to each other. NONE of them were found to be better than any other. So the key really is to figure out what is best for you. Most people think they need to change everything at once, which is something you'd never stick to once you're diet is over. You have to approach this as a lifestyle change.

First, just start with cutting down your portion size, then from there start figuring out where you can start eating healthier. Don't force yourself to eat celery 24/7, find what you like, and start there. Like Singelli and a few other people said, counting calories is not a bad idea. Now, you don't necessarily have to do this forever, do it for 3-4 days where you don't change your normal diet to get a good baseline. There are about 3,500 calories in one pound, so that'll give you an idea of how much weight you're putting on with a few meals.

A big change you can do that will go a long way is to limit carbs (breads, pastas, etc..) There was a study in the most recent New England Journal of Medicine, one of the most prestigious medical journals, comparing low carb diets vs low fat diets. 2 groups of people were followed over a 1 year period on these specific diets. Over a 12 month period, the low carb group on average had lost 9 pounds more than the low fat diet. This is a great guide to follow.

Remember how I said this is a lifestyle change? Not only must you commit to a diet, but also you need to exercise almost daily.  You need to commit to this seriously. The American Heart Association recommends for both weight loss and cardiovascular benefit, working out 5-6 times a week for 30 minutes. For this, you don't need to be running marathons. Go for a walk, bike ride, yoga, anything like that, but find out what you enjoy and go from there. Personally, I put on music and jog, I get lost in my music to have a great time and block out the work I'm doing. The 30 minutes do not have to be at one time either. If you need to start at 3-10 minute intervals, that's outstanding.

Now, look at how much info is in this post. This is definitely more than I can provide in a single visit with a patient. What this does is, hopefully, emphasize what the commitment needs to be. You can absolutely do it, and after reading your post, I absolutely believe you can. you need to go into this with a plan, and stick to it. Figure out what you like, and incorporate it. If you aren't enjoying yourself, how can you possibly stick with it? Remember, any effective/permanent weight loss program has only been done with a combination of diet AND exercise, not one or the other. 

There are a lot of generalities here, so if you have any specific questions, or any other questions, I'd be more than happy to help wherever I can. If you want some ideas on where to start or anything like that, please let me know as well. Best of luck
Singelli had a lot of great points in her post, so I'd like to piggyback off her as well as what I tell my patients when I'm in the office.

First, you have to realize this will be a long process. You didn't gain all your weight over a week or two, so it isn't going to be quick. In general, a healthy amount of weight loss is only about 2 pounds a week. That's it. So how do you approach this.
In the medical literature, all of the different diet fads have been studied and compared all of them to each other. NONE of them were found to be better than any other. So the key really is to figure out what is best for you. Most people think they need to change everything at once, which is something you'd never stick to once you're diet is over. You have to approach this as a lifestyle change.

First, just start with cutting down your portion size, then from there start figuring out where you can start eating healthier. Don't force yourself to eat celery 24/7, find what you like, and start there. Like Singelli and a few other people said, counting calories is not a bad idea. Now, you don't necessarily have to do this forever, do it for 3-4 days where you don't change your normal diet to get a good baseline. There are about 3,500 calories in one pound, so that'll give you an idea of how much weight you're putting on with a few meals.

A big change you can do that will go a long way is to limit carbs (breads, pastas, etc..) There was a study in the most recent New England Journal of Medicine, one of the most prestigious medical journals, comparing low carb diets vs low fat diets. 2 groups of people were followed over a 1 year period on these specific diets. Over a 12 month period, the low carb group on average had lost 9 pounds more than the low fat diet. This is a great guide to follow.

Remember how I said this is a lifestyle change? Not only must you commit to a diet, but also you need to exercise almost daily.  You need to commit to this seriously. The American Heart Association recommends for both weight loss and cardiovascular benefit, working out 5-6 times a week for 30 minutes. For this, you don't need to be running marathons. Go for a walk, bike ride, yoga, anything like that, but find out what you enjoy and go from there. Personally, I put on music and jog, I get lost in my music to have a great time and block out the work I'm doing. The 30 minutes do not have to be at one time either. If you need to start at 3-10 minute intervals, that's outstanding.

Now, look at how much info is in this post. This is definitely more than I can provide in a single visit with a patient. What this does is, hopefully, emphasize what the commitment needs to be. You can absolutely do it, and after reading your post, I absolutely believe you can. you need to go into this with a plan, and stick to it. Figure out what you like, and incorporate it. If you aren't enjoying yourself, how can you possibly stick with it? Remember, any effective/permanent weight loss program has only been done with a combination of diet AND exercise, not one or the other. 

There are a lot of generalities here, so if you have any specific questions, or any other questions, I'd be more than happy to help wherever I can. If you want some ideas on where to start or anything like that, please let me know as well. Best of luck
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Why are you looking for help if you told us directly you (a) don't stick to a diet and (b) don't exercise or work out.

Fitness, body weight, all that is a simple math game.  It's how much you eat and how much you do.  If you eat a lot and sit around all day, yes, you get fat.  It's not smoking, it's being lazy about doing anything physical and being undisciplined about shoving garbage in your mouth.  Change those two things and you'll improve.  Don't change them and you'll be getting diabetes, heart disease, and a variety of other things that kill fat people.

Don't blame some other incident that happened way back when if you aren't going to talk about it, either.  That incident had no impact on you and we can't help if you don't bring it up.

If you really want to make a change, you're the one that has to do it.  We can't. I bet your friends and family have tried to help and failed.  So of course they're going to give up if you don't make changes.

Nothing we can say will help until you are really ready to test yourself and make internal changes.  When you're ready, come find me.  I'll help you.  I help a ton of people, I work at a YMCA, and I see the transformation.  It's incredible.  But it starts, goes through, and ends with you.  Until you're ready, don't ask for help.
Why are you looking for help if you told us directly you (a) don't stick to a diet and (b) don't exercise or work out.

Fitness, body weight, all that is a simple math game.  It's how much you eat and how much you do.  If you eat a lot and sit around all day, yes, you get fat.  It's not smoking, it's being lazy about doing anything physical and being undisciplined about shoving garbage in your mouth.  Change those two things and you'll improve.  Don't change them and you'll be getting diabetes, heart disease, and a variety of other things that kill fat people.

Don't blame some other incident that happened way back when if you aren't going to talk about it, either.  That incident had no impact on you and we can't help if you don't bring it up.

If you really want to make a change, you're the one that has to do it.  We can't. I bet your friends and family have tried to help and failed.  So of course they're going to give up if you don't make changes.

Nothing we can say will help until you are really ready to test yourself and make internal changes.  When you're ready, come find me.  I'll help you.  I help a ton of people, I work at a YMCA, and I see the transformation.  It's incredible.  But it starts, goes through, and ends with you.  Until you're ready, don't ask for help.
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So yeah, that is bad. I was also pretty fat myself (I'm still a bit chubby, but no where near before) so, I decided to stop that.

Couple of tips from me :

-First of, all of those "Don't eat after X PM" have no truth to them. You can eat at 1 AM or 12 PM, it doesn't matter, it's going to be the same thing. While it's true you shouldn't eat much at dark, you can still eat.

-Only eat when you are hungry. This also means to keep very hydrated (Dehydration can become hunger) and hungry, hungry. Not that you feel bored or anything else. Ask yourself "Am I hungry, or just bored/tired/angry/etc..."

-Drink lots of water. Minimum 2.2 liters of water a day. It helps not only to lose weight, but also to keep you healthy overall.

-1-2 pounds a week is a healthy start. More than that can be very unhealthy, so don't try to lose an insane amount of weight in little time. Slow and steady.

-Don't just diet, exercise as well. Just walking/running 30 minutes a day can help a ton. Exercise is not that important to lose weight, but very important.

-You're not going to lose weight in one day. You didn't gain that amount of weight in one month, you aren't going to lose it in that amount of time.

-Keep motivated. Don't try to lose weight for one week and just give up. Continue to do so, all the time.

-You aren't going to lose fat from your stomach at first. Infact, that might just be the last place you will lose fat. It will start in places like arms, face, legs, etc...

-Lastly, counting calories isn't that great. Will it help? Maybe. You should not count calories? Not that either. Just read the facts, and don't go overboard.

A good thing to remember is you only know when you are full after eating. About 10-20 minutes after, so if you don't feel full right away, give it some time. You should feel full and good after eating, not super full and bad.

Starter exercise program
First off, you are barely starting, so if you can't do it all, don't feel so bad.

-20 squats.
-10 crunches/sit ups.
-5 push ups
This are 3 sets each, taking a small break after each set (never over a minute)

-10 to 30 minutes walking/running a day, minimum

Well, that's about all I have. I hope it helps you, at least a bit.

Last tip I have, is no excuses. don't say "Oh, I can eat X because I did X", or "I will start tomorrow", or "This day I will not do any of this, and tomorrow I will exercise a lot"
Trust me, they aren't going to help you.
So yeah, that is bad. I was also pretty fat myself (I'm still a bit chubby, but no where near before) so, I decided to stop that.

Couple of tips from me :

-First of, all of those "Don't eat after X PM" have no truth to them. You can eat at 1 AM or 12 PM, it doesn't matter, it's going to be the same thing. While it's true you shouldn't eat much at dark, you can still eat.

-Only eat when you are hungry. This also means to keep very hydrated (Dehydration can become hunger) and hungry, hungry. Not that you feel bored or anything else. Ask yourself "Am I hungry, or just bored/tired/angry/etc..."

-Drink lots of water. Minimum 2.2 liters of water a day. It helps not only to lose weight, but also to keep you healthy overall.

-1-2 pounds a week is a healthy start. More than that can be very unhealthy, so don't try to lose an insane amount of weight in little time. Slow and steady.

-Don't just diet, exercise as well. Just walking/running 30 minutes a day can help a ton. Exercise is not that important to lose weight, but very important.

-You're not going to lose weight in one day. You didn't gain that amount of weight in one month, you aren't going to lose it in that amount of time.

-Keep motivated. Don't try to lose weight for one week and just give up. Continue to do so, all the time.

-You aren't going to lose fat from your stomach at first. Infact, that might just be the last place you will lose fat. It will start in places like arms, face, legs, etc...

-Lastly, counting calories isn't that great. Will it help? Maybe. You should not count calories? Not that either. Just read the facts, and don't go overboard.

A good thing to remember is you only know when you are full after eating. About 10-20 minutes after, so if you don't feel full right away, give it some time. You should feel full and good after eating, not super full and bad.

Starter exercise program
First off, you are barely starting, so if you can't do it all, don't feel so bad.

-20 squats.
-10 crunches/sit ups.
-5 push ups
This are 3 sets each, taking a small break after each set (never over a minute)

-10 to 30 minutes walking/running a day, minimum

Well, that's about all I have. I hope it helps you, at least a bit.

Last tip I have, is no excuses. don't say "Oh, I can eat X because I did X", or "I will start tomorrow", or "This day I will not do any of this, and tomorrow I will exercise a lot"
Trust me, they aren't going to help you.
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I don't have much to say that hasn't already been said. But piggybacking one specific detail that mike discussed as well as another little tip.

Mike mentioned 30 minute exercise about 5 days a week. He mentioned it doesn't have to be running or stress workouts. A simple 30 minute walk is good too. One thing that really helps that is having a dog. Taking your dog for walks makes them happy, gets you moving, and gives some nice bonding time with your dog. Having that little companion there who loves you for taking him/her outside to explore makes walking much more fun than just doing it alone. If you don't ave a dog, talk to a friend who does. Tell your friend that you are trying to do something to get you on your feet, and ask if you could take their dog on routine walks a few days a week. Any dog owner who cares about their dog's health or too busy to walk them during the weekdays would LOVE to have a friend who is willing to take their dog out to work out some of their energy. If you have friends who have dogs, I doubt you would get very many saying no to a free dog walking.

I have seen a lot on dieting. Here is the thing. Going directly to diets has been shown time and time again to not work. That is like trying to stop smoking by going cold turkey. Not likely gonna last long. What you want to start doing before attempting altering your food choices as part of a strict diet, you need to take smaller steps. Eat the same food that you currently eat now, just monitor portion size. Yes, this is likely going to cause you to not necessarily feel 'full' like you are used to. First thing you got to do is tighten up your stomach a little bit, and that will only happen if you start reducing portions. Here are some tips on doing this:
1. Use smaller plates. It may sound silly, but it has been strongly supported that you eat with your eyes more than you do your stomach. Fooling your eyes triggers the signal in your brain that says you are full. When you have a small plate and a large plate next to each other with the exact same amount of food, most people, when asked, will say that there is more food no the small plate. It is just a simple optical illusion. But when you put your eyes through that, your brain is more likely to interpret that you are eating more even though you are not. So purposefully use smaller plates.
2. Make sure you chew thoroughly. The faster you eat, the more food you put in your stomach before your brain processes it and decides you are full. So if you chew longer, or just intentionally eat slower, you give the food time to settle while you are eating, and your brain will signal that you are full before you have way more than you really needed. So eat slower, and chewing more is one way to help with that. Also, you less likely to experience heartburn if you chew thoroughly because your stomach won't need to fill up with as much stomach acid to cover everything in your stomach.
3. People already mentioned drink water, but I want to add a detail to that (someone might have said it, and I admit that I didn't thoroughly read EVERY post here). Drink water during meals. Time when you take a drink. For example, after every 5-8 bites of food, take a decent drink of water. Not just a small sip. At least a full 1-2 gulps. You will put more in your stomach while you eat, but not adding any calories since water is 0 calories. So you are just replacing excess food to get your full with something that cannot be stored as fat.

Those 3 food tips are all about fooling your brain. The thing is, even when you are fully conscious of the fact that you are doing it for that reason, you have no control over those involuntary brain triggers. They will trigger as they are designed to even if you are aware that you are fooling them.

I do completely agree with warmaker though. Until you are going get to that point to where you are going to make the needed changes for real results, asking for help is pointless. It does start, continue, and end with you. The food tips I gave you are in no way going to make you significantly smaller. Those are things that you can do to help your stomach shrink back after being stretched from overeating. That way, if you do decide to stick to a diet, you won't be quite so hindered by not being able to be full from meals. Trying to just completely change your eating habits is not realistic, so the best place to start is eating the same food in smaller portions. I don't recommend just trying to dive head first.
I don't have much to say that hasn't already been said. But piggybacking one specific detail that mike discussed as well as another little tip.

Mike mentioned 30 minute exercise about 5 days a week. He mentioned it doesn't have to be running or stress workouts. A simple 30 minute walk is good too. One thing that really helps that is having a dog. Taking your dog for walks makes them happy, gets you moving, and gives some nice bonding time with your dog. Having that little companion there who loves you for taking him/her outside to explore makes walking much more fun than just doing it alone. If you don't ave a dog, talk to a friend who does. Tell your friend that you are trying to do something to get you on your feet, and ask if you could take their dog on routine walks a few days a week. Any dog owner who cares about their dog's health or too busy to walk them during the weekdays would LOVE to have a friend who is willing to take their dog out to work out some of their energy. If you have friends who have dogs, I doubt you would get very many saying no to a free dog walking.

I have seen a lot on dieting. Here is the thing. Going directly to diets has been shown time and time again to not work. That is like trying to stop smoking by going cold turkey. Not likely gonna last long. What you want to start doing before attempting altering your food choices as part of a strict diet, you need to take smaller steps. Eat the same food that you currently eat now, just monitor portion size. Yes, this is likely going to cause you to not necessarily feel 'full' like you are used to. First thing you got to do is tighten up your stomach a little bit, and that will only happen if you start reducing portions. Here are some tips on doing this:
1. Use smaller plates. It may sound silly, but it has been strongly supported that you eat with your eyes more than you do your stomach. Fooling your eyes triggers the signal in your brain that says you are full. When you have a small plate and a large plate next to each other with the exact same amount of food, most people, when asked, will say that there is more food no the small plate. It is just a simple optical illusion. But when you put your eyes through that, your brain is more likely to interpret that you are eating more even though you are not. So purposefully use smaller plates.
2. Make sure you chew thoroughly. The faster you eat, the more food you put in your stomach before your brain processes it and decides you are full. So if you chew longer, or just intentionally eat slower, you give the food time to settle while you are eating, and your brain will signal that you are full before you have way more than you really needed. So eat slower, and chewing more is one way to help with that. Also, you less likely to experience heartburn if you chew thoroughly because your stomach won't need to fill up with as much stomach acid to cover everything in your stomach.
3. People already mentioned drink water, but I want to add a detail to that (someone might have said it, and I admit that I didn't thoroughly read EVERY post here). Drink water during meals. Time when you take a drink. For example, after every 5-8 bites of food, take a decent drink of water. Not just a small sip. At least a full 1-2 gulps. You will put more in your stomach while you eat, but not adding any calories since water is 0 calories. So you are just replacing excess food to get your full with something that cannot be stored as fat.

Those 3 food tips are all about fooling your brain. The thing is, even when you are fully conscious of the fact that you are doing it for that reason, you have no control over those involuntary brain triggers. They will trigger as they are designed to even if you are aware that you are fooling them.

I do completely agree with warmaker though. Until you are going get to that point to where you are going to make the needed changes for real results, asking for help is pointless. It does start, continue, and end with you. The food tips I gave you are in no way going to make you significantly smaller. Those are things that you can do to help your stomach shrink back after being stretched from overeating. That way, if you do decide to stick to a diet, you won't be quite so hindered by not being able to be full from meals. Trying to just completely change your eating habits is not realistic, so the best place to start is eating the same food in smaller portions. I don't recommend just trying to dive head first.
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I like to think that I am healthy at 5'10" and 140lbs, so maybe I could help. 

Eating Right-  That means cutting the junk food out of your diet (meaning stop buying the pringles and oreos, yes those are my 2 favorite foods) and start buying fruits and vegetables. Personal recommendations would be apples, strawberries, raspberries, pears, peaches, pineapples and potatoes just because those are my favorite also :3. You might be thinking "fruit and veggies?!?! ewwww" but honestly they all taste good if you prepare them the right way. I absolutely love zucchini, but only if it has been grilled. Another factor is to drink as others have pointed out. Always have a glass of water by you and be sure to drink it regularly. I could go into science about how it helps etc etc but long story short, it is an extremely good thing to do. 

Exercise- The best thing about this is that you get the worse of it up front. The problem with most people is that they try to exercise, and after the first few times the claim it is too hard and quit. Well you see, if you keep doing it you build more muscle and burn the excess weight, making exercising
easier the more you do it. My only suggestion at first is to go on 30 minute walks/jogs. It's a simple exercise that burns calories without tiring you out instantly. Do that and by the end of the first week (if you do these walks every day) you will definitely notice that it got easier. 

AS singelli also said, an accountability partner always helps too. If you don't have anyone in your life to push you to do these things, I would be more than willing to send you a message daily (or every other day depending on school) to make sure you've worked out/eaten right that day. This would require a certain extent of truthfulness and of course, I would only do it if you are comfortable with telling me that stuff, but just know i'm here for you, as I'm sure the rest of vizzed is too.
I like to think that I am healthy at 5'10" and 140lbs, so maybe I could help. 

Eating Right-  That means cutting the junk food out of your diet (meaning stop buying the pringles and oreos, yes those are my 2 favorite foods) and start buying fruits and vegetables. Personal recommendations would be apples, strawberries, raspberries, pears, peaches, pineapples and potatoes just because those are my favorite also :3. You might be thinking "fruit and veggies?!?! ewwww" but honestly they all taste good if you prepare them the right way. I absolutely love zucchini, but only if it has been grilled. Another factor is to drink as others have pointed out. Always have a glass of water by you and be sure to drink it regularly. I could go into science about how it helps etc etc but long story short, it is an extremely good thing to do. 

Exercise- The best thing about this is that you get the worse of it up front. The problem with most people is that they try to exercise, and after the first few times the claim it is too hard and quit. Well you see, if you keep doing it you build more muscle and burn the excess weight, making exercising
easier the more you do it. My only suggestion at first is to go on 30 minute walks/jogs. It's a simple exercise that burns calories without tiring you out instantly. Do that and by the end of the first week (if you do these walks every day) you will definitely notice that it got easier. 

AS singelli also said, an accountability partner always helps too. If you don't have anyone in your life to push you to do these things, I would be more than willing to send you a message daily (or every other day depending on school) to make sure you've worked out/eaten right that day. This would require a certain extent of truthfulness and of course, I would only do it if you are comfortable with telling me that stuff, but just know i'm here for you, as I'm sure the rest of vizzed is too.
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Well, I'm no bodybuilder, but I'm lean for my age.
I don't keep soda/candy/potato chips in my house. If it's there, I'll eat it.

1. Always drink water. Mother only likes cold water, my sister and father barely drink plain water at all. I love it. I drink it to wash the mouthful of food down while I'm eating, so I go through 2 bottles per meal. To drink more water, keep your house relatively warm, and store bottles in your refrigerator if that makes water more appealing to you.

Remove anything sugary or fattening. I like raisins, I like pretzels, I like Welch's fruit gummies. If I see that there are all these foods in my house, then I'll be likely to eat them because I'm hungry. It's not the same as junk food, but it is still available food.
Well, I'm no bodybuilder, but I'm lean for my age.
I don't keep soda/candy/potato chips in my house. If it's there, I'll eat it.

1. Always drink water. Mother only likes cold water, my sister and father barely drink plain water at all. I love it. I drink it to wash the mouthful of food down while I'm eating, so I go through 2 bottles per meal. To drink more water, keep your house relatively warm, and store bottles in your refrigerator if that makes water more appealing to you.

Remove anything sugary or fattening. I like raisins, I like pretzels, I like Welch's fruit gummies. If I see that there are all these foods in my house, then I'll be likely to eat them because I'm hungry. It's not the same as junk food, but it is still available food.
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I am trying to lose weight myself. Here is my advice to diet, because diets do not work. I prefer lifestyle changes. For me I eat the same amount of foods but in portion control. I also try to get at least 45 minutes of activity in by walking or lifting weights 4 to 5 times a week. I also recommend setting 5 pound goals that way it makes it a lot easier. Anyway this is how I'm losing weight 

I will also add do not use artificial sweetners they will make you gain weight moderation is the key 
I am trying to lose weight myself. Here is my advice to diet, because diets do not work. I prefer lifestyle changes. For me I eat the same amount of foods but in portion control. I also try to get at least 45 minutes of activity in by walking or lifting weights 4 to 5 times a week. I also recommend setting 5 pound goals that way it makes it a lot easier. Anyway this is how I'm losing weight 

I will also add do not use artificial sweetners they will make you gain weight moderation is the key 
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@Cradily's op:

I read the first few replies and honestly I just tl;dr the rest... Anywho, I agree with those guys and here is my story and my 2 cents.


I was never obese but I was overweight many times before. I am 5' 8.5" and my heaviest is 183. I am a very logic driven and scientific person so naturally I always knew what to do to be fit but the thing is, knowing and wanting are two different things. Why are some people always fit or at least not overweight? I've seen women who get fit fast after giving birth. I also know many people who are the opposite. But why? Most of the time it is not genetics. Right now I am 151 pounds and here is the part where people may get pissed off at what I am about to say. I firmly believe that losing weight is hard, it is difficult and challenging but you can only blame yourself for feeling that way. Keep telling yourself you have no hope and guess what? You will be hopeless. Life isn't a disney movie or a nickelodeon show or a mtv reality show either. You have to be realistic. No duh right? Not so fast. IF IT SUCH A NO DUH THEN WHY DO PEOPLE GET SO DETACHED FROM REALITY?


My answer to the question, 'why are some people always fit or at least not overweight?'is simply because they can AND THEY WANT TO. That last part is the most important. These people WANT to go to the gym. They want to get a cup of water instead of beer or coke. It isn't so much a concious thing like constantly thinking oh hey if I eat this then I will get fat. I don't know about everyone else but I know quite a number of people who share my foodie mindset and they still look lean. Here is what I do: I do not diet. EVER. Screw diets, they make people unhappy because they keep resenting themselves and serves as a reminder of their body weight. So what do I eat? Whatever I want. OMG TitaniumOxids you are such a jerk for giving such advice! yeah yeah...take it or leave it. I know it isn't what people expect or may want to hear but that is how I work and how my ex roommate worked and he looks like a Chinese Hercules. Okay I'm tired of writing this on my phone so let me post this and edit it on my laptop for more of my 2 cents. brb. Like the post before me said, diets do not work, lifestyle changes is the way to go.

I said I just eat whatever I want which has always been true even when I was heavier. Thank goodness I am blessed with an above average metabolism and I can eat a lot at dinner then in the morning I am like 4 pounds lighter before I use the toilet. How does that work, I am not going to go into details but the truth is we all have different metabolisms. I usually eat whatever I want but see here is the trick: what I usually like to eat are (lean if possible) meats and healthier food items. I am not a health freak, my plate can consist of white (the bad kind) rice, mash potatoes, some meat, and A LOT of veggies usually. Gawd I love veggies but I actually hate most fruits so I hardly eat fruits but I do drink juice when it is around. I also notice that my food sometimes contain a lot of fat and that is fine. For snacks I just steam some broccoli and sprinkle salt on it. So...TitaniumOxide, you kind of are a semi health freak afterall? I don't like to label myself as one because I may eat whatever I want and what I want is usually on the healthier side, a lot of times I do enjoy eating crap like the general populace. Pizza? I can eat a whole 14" large plus a slice or two more. Needless to say I do binge eat.

The problem here is that Cradily, you are not me and I am not you so what works for me may not work for you but that is where lifestyle changes come in. This works for everyone even for the people who says it doesn't work. I accredit my fitness to a happy lifestyle. Let me break down a few facts of myself for you:

1. I smoke something that is now completely legal in 2 states quite often.
2. I am asian and I enjoy making racist jokes about ALL races to people who are receptive
3. I do not drink
4. I drive a piece of crap car
5. I stay up a lot, actually it is common for me to go to bed around 3am
6. I do not live with my parents and I advise everyone to do the same as long as you are at least 18 and financially capable.
7. I don't have any pets anymore (which actually sucks but I like fantasizing about having a pet dog or three)
8. with all these random facts about myself given, I can say I AM HAPPY AND CONTENT with where I am at even though I drive a piece of crap and throw up after half a bottle of Smirnoff ice.

The secret is about being happy with yourself. If you are obese and are constantly thinking about it in a negative way, you are not happy. How can you be happy constantly knowing you are obese? First, do not be in denial. Do not be in deniable about knowing that you may not want to actually be happy. This is important. Some people say okay I want to be happy, let me bust out that Red Faction game I so enjoyed when I was 13 on my old PS2. That is short term happiness because it is only one thing that makes you happy. To stay happy you need many things and perhaps lifestyle changes. When I lived with my parents, I was happy but not content because I wasn't happy all the time because we all know how mean parents can be sometimes. I moved out and got my freedom and do all these things some people would consider bad then I regulated myself. I have a piece of crap car that I love, I am happy. People tell me smokers can have a hard time doing cardio, I run 4 miles average every time I am on the treadmill and give these people a mental finger and I am happy. I joke a lot and when I can make others smile, especially a girl, I am happy. Just do stuff that makes you happy. Then you will have fun. IF you keep thinking about and keep doing whatever you are doing which is not working, you won't be happy. That is why as well as wanting to eat healthy, wanting to workout, wanting to be skinnier, you also have to be happy while doing all of that. Some of the things I had to change for myself included anything from being less judgemental of others to always setting time aside to go hiking and enjoy nature more and more because that has always been what I wanted to do since a kid but it rarely happened. So it seems like some things I do are negative like smoking and sleeping super late and may seem contradictory to happiness but the thing is, I am being happy for myself. Not for you, my grandma, or my girlfriend. Before I can make anyone else happy, I have to be happy. In turn people are more open to me, friendlier, and happier around me because they know I have positive things to say and I am happy. It is quite rewarding.

I know this is long and I understand it if this is a tl;dr for people but I firmly believe in what I type and on a end note here I just want to add one more thing. Changes are great but do not expect change to happen over night or a month. When you change your lifestyle, you also change your personality and of course that in turn changes plenty of other things. The change has to be positive FOR YOU. If you want to not be obese, you have to have positive changes for yourself. You are changing for no other but yourself so do not let others tell you what you that going with your husky to hunt some rabbits in the countryside is an evil and inhumane thing. If it makes you happy and you aren't harming people and will use that rabbit after it is dead then go for it and screw the liberals. They can't tell you how to be happy (but I am a Democrat writing this though xD). If what I am saying doesn't make sense here and there, you are welcome to pm me and I can elaborate. Hope my mindless typing helps you and perhaps others. In the meantime, it is time for bed so have an A1 Day!

Regards,
TitaniumOxide
@Cradily's op:

I read the first few replies and honestly I just tl;dr the rest... Anywho, I agree with those guys and here is my story and my 2 cents.


I was never obese but I was overweight many times before. I am 5' 8.5" and my heaviest is 183. I am a very logic driven and scientific person so naturally I always knew what to do to be fit but the thing is, knowing and wanting are two different things. Why are some people always fit or at least not overweight? I've seen women who get fit fast after giving birth. I also know many people who are the opposite. But why? Most of the time it is not genetics. Right now I am 151 pounds and here is the part where people may get pissed off at what I am about to say. I firmly believe that losing weight is hard, it is difficult and challenging but you can only blame yourself for feeling that way. Keep telling yourself you have no hope and guess what? You will be hopeless. Life isn't a disney movie or a nickelodeon show or a mtv reality show either. You have to be realistic. No duh right? Not so fast. IF IT SUCH A NO DUH THEN WHY DO PEOPLE GET SO DETACHED FROM REALITY?


My answer to the question, 'why are some people always fit or at least not overweight?'is simply because they can AND THEY WANT TO. That last part is the most important. These people WANT to go to the gym. They want to get a cup of water instead of beer or coke. It isn't so much a concious thing like constantly thinking oh hey if I eat this then I will get fat. I don't know about everyone else but I know quite a number of people who share my foodie mindset and they still look lean. Here is what I do: I do not diet. EVER. Screw diets, they make people unhappy because they keep resenting themselves and serves as a reminder of their body weight. So what do I eat? Whatever I want. OMG TitaniumOxids you are such a jerk for giving such advice! yeah yeah...take it or leave it. I know it isn't what people expect or may want to hear but that is how I work and how my ex roommate worked and he looks like a Chinese Hercules. Okay I'm tired of writing this on my phone so let me post this and edit it on my laptop for more of my 2 cents. brb. Like the post before me said, diets do not work, lifestyle changes is the way to go.

I said I just eat whatever I want which has always been true even when I was heavier. Thank goodness I am blessed with an above average metabolism and I can eat a lot at dinner then in the morning I am like 4 pounds lighter before I use the toilet. How does that work, I am not going to go into details but the truth is we all have different metabolisms. I usually eat whatever I want but see here is the trick: what I usually like to eat are (lean if possible) meats and healthier food items. I am not a health freak, my plate can consist of white (the bad kind) rice, mash potatoes, some meat, and A LOT of veggies usually. Gawd I love veggies but I actually hate most fruits so I hardly eat fruits but I do drink juice when it is around. I also notice that my food sometimes contain a lot of fat and that is fine. For snacks I just steam some broccoli and sprinkle salt on it. So...TitaniumOxide, you kind of are a semi health freak afterall? I don't like to label myself as one because I may eat whatever I want and what I want is usually on the healthier side, a lot of times I do enjoy eating crap like the general populace. Pizza? I can eat a whole 14" large plus a slice or two more. Needless to say I do binge eat.

The problem here is that Cradily, you are not me and I am not you so what works for me may not work for you but that is where lifestyle changes come in. This works for everyone even for the people who says it doesn't work. I accredit my fitness to a happy lifestyle. Let me break down a few facts of myself for you:

1. I smoke something that is now completely legal in 2 states quite often.
2. I am asian and I enjoy making racist jokes about ALL races to people who are receptive
3. I do not drink
4. I drive a piece of crap car
5. I stay up a lot, actually it is common for me to go to bed around 3am
6. I do not live with my parents and I advise everyone to do the same as long as you are at least 18 and financially capable.
7. I don't have any pets anymore (which actually sucks but I like fantasizing about having a pet dog or three)
8. with all these random facts about myself given, I can say I AM HAPPY AND CONTENT with where I am at even though I drive a piece of crap and throw up after half a bottle of Smirnoff ice.

The secret is about being happy with yourself. If you are obese and are constantly thinking about it in a negative way, you are not happy. How can you be happy constantly knowing you are obese? First, do not be in denial. Do not be in deniable about knowing that you may not want to actually be happy. This is important. Some people say okay I want to be happy, let me bust out that Red Faction game I so enjoyed when I was 13 on my old PS2. That is short term happiness because it is only one thing that makes you happy. To stay happy you need many things and perhaps lifestyle changes. When I lived with my parents, I was happy but not content because I wasn't happy all the time because we all know how mean parents can be sometimes. I moved out and got my freedom and do all these things some people would consider bad then I regulated myself. I have a piece of crap car that I love, I am happy. People tell me smokers can have a hard time doing cardio, I run 4 miles average every time I am on the treadmill and give these people a mental finger and I am happy. I joke a lot and when I can make others smile, especially a girl, I am happy. Just do stuff that makes you happy. Then you will have fun. IF you keep thinking about and keep doing whatever you are doing which is not working, you won't be happy. That is why as well as wanting to eat healthy, wanting to workout, wanting to be skinnier, you also have to be happy while doing all of that. Some of the things I had to change for myself included anything from being less judgemental of others to always setting time aside to go hiking and enjoy nature more and more because that has always been what I wanted to do since a kid but it rarely happened. So it seems like some things I do are negative like smoking and sleeping super late and may seem contradictory to happiness but the thing is, I am being happy for myself. Not for you, my grandma, or my girlfriend. Before I can make anyone else happy, I have to be happy. In turn people are more open to me, friendlier, and happier around me because they know I have positive things to say and I am happy. It is quite rewarding.

I know this is long and I understand it if this is a tl;dr for people but I firmly believe in what I type and on a end note here I just want to add one more thing. Changes are great but do not expect change to happen over night or a month. When you change your lifestyle, you also change your personality and of course that in turn changes plenty of other things. The change has to be positive FOR YOU. If you want to not be obese, you have to have positive changes for yourself. You are changing for no other but yourself so do not let others tell you what you that going with your husky to hunt some rabbits in the countryside is an evil and inhumane thing. If it makes you happy and you aren't harming people and will use that rabbit after it is dead then go for it and screw the liberals. They can't tell you how to be happy (but I am a Democrat writing this though xD). If what I am saying doesn't make sense here and there, you are welcome to pm me and I can elaborate. Hope my mindless typing helps you and perhaps others. In the meantime, it is time for bed so have an A1 Day!

Regards,
TitaniumOxide
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Cradily is love : i was in a similar situation as you am about the same height but i weighed about three hundred pounds. that was until i got my current job. it's a lot of manual physical labor it has helped me lose about one hundred pounds. i haven't changed my diet i still eat similarly to you. it wasn't easy though when i first started and i was that heavy i struggled to get my work done and to keep up with the other workers. the inside of my legs were constantly chafed bright red and my body was constantly sore. i kept with it though because its a good job and i need the money. i struggled at first but after i started dropping some weight i started moving faster and getting stronger now im one of the best workers there. i owe my health to that job and so glad i got it when i did. as i said im not at a good weight yet but i can't help my self when it comes to food.

i hopes this helps! good luck!
Cradily is love : i was in a similar situation as you am about the same height but i weighed about three hundred pounds. that was until i got my current job. it's a lot of manual physical labor it has helped me lose about one hundred pounds. i haven't changed my diet i still eat similarly to you. it wasn't easy though when i first started and i was that heavy i struggled to get my work done and to keep up with the other workers. the inside of my legs were constantly chafed bright red and my body was constantly sore. i kept with it though because its a good job and i need the money. i struggled at first but after i started dropping some weight i started moving faster and getting stronger now im one of the best workers there. i owe my health to that job and so glad i got it when i did. as i said im not at a good weight yet but i can't help my self when it comes to food.

i hopes this helps! good luck!
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Cradily is love : While I have no intentions of sugar coating it, that is rather shocking of a circumstance. 
Unless there is some biological cause for the weight gain, then it can be said that it is all behavioural; ie, the fault is placed solely on you. However, this is probably the better of the two circumstances. In this case, an excellent place to start would be a gradual reduction of the fattiest of foods in your life- primarily anything fried. Over time, add on things like chips (crisps?) and carbonated drinks. It is also suggested that you have some lemon or lime first up in the morning to stimulate the digestive system
In regards to exercise, start off small. Gardening and walking are excellent. Go for time, not intensity
Hopefully, these simple steps can help you out
Cradily is love : While I have no intentions of sugar coating it, that is rather shocking of a circumstance. 
Unless there is some biological cause for the weight gain, then it can be said that it is all behavioural; ie, the fault is placed solely on you. However, this is probably the better of the two circumstances. In this case, an excellent place to start would be a gradual reduction of the fattiest of foods in your life- primarily anything fried. Over time, add on things like chips (crisps?) and carbonated drinks. It is also suggested that you have some lemon or lime first up in the morning to stimulate the digestive system
In regards to exercise, start off small. Gardening and walking are excellent. Go for time, not intensity
Hopefully, these simple steps can help you out
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