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07-28-14 02:35 AM
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tgags123 : I'm always interested in what you have to say about politics, so I SUMMON YOU!

Anyways 2013 was? a great year for marijuana, yet you probably heard nothing about it due to controversy by the media due to political correctivity, but aside from that. 2 states legalized it 100%, 31 states proposed a bill to make it legal medically, and hemp (which isn't even potent, so Nixon was obviously banning that so his timber would boom) is now being farmed in small amounts, also Uruguay legalized it, becoming the first non anarchy country (Somalia I guess? Pardon my ignorance ) to legalize marijuana completely. Overall we;re heading in the right direction and if this becomes legal our crime rate will go down, I'm all for legalization of the leaf, it's also a nice little hobby of mine :3. And one last note, in Colorado and washington, more whites than blacks and Hispanics lined up for the first ever recreational store, so you can keep your racist gang comments to yourselves.

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tgags123 : I'm always interested in what you have to say about politics, so I SUMMON YOU!

Anyways 2013 was? a great year for marijuana, yet you probably heard nothing about it due to controversy by the media due to political correctivity, but aside from that. 2 states legalized it 100%, 31 states proposed a bill to make it legal medically, and hemp (which isn't even potent, so Nixon was obviously banning that so his timber would boom) is now being farmed in small amounts, also Uruguay legalized it, becoming the first non anarchy country (Somalia I guess? Pardon my ignorance ) to legalize marijuana completely. Overall we;re heading in the right direction and if this becomes legal our crime rate will go down, I'm all for legalization of the leaf, it's also a nice little hobby of mine :3. And one last note, in Colorado and washington, more whites than blacks and Hispanics lined up for the first ever recreational store, so you can keep your racist gang comments to yourselves.

Edit: I fixed all those errors.
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I say if it helps our other wise stagnate economy then let the people smoke, plus it takes marijuana out of the black market making younger people less adept to go to a sketchy source, and end up getting something laced. Leading them down an more self destroying path. I think once the rest of the union gives up on the "morality"  of the whole thing, then the hype about it will go down, and you won't even have to hear from some stoner "hey man we should legalize this stuff" and that'll be a plus. All in all it will be taxed ALOT and our economy will boom, who knows maybe the crime rate will drop too. From personal experience whenever I got high, I didn't feel like robbing a mini-mart or shooting someone, I felt like making a bowl of cheeseburger  Hamburger Helper with Cheetos, and watching Super Troopers
I say if it helps our other wise stagnate economy then let the people smoke, plus it takes marijuana out of the black market making younger people less adept to go to a sketchy source, and end up getting something laced. Leading them down an more self destroying path. I think once the rest of the union gives up on the "morality"  of the whole thing, then the hype about it will go down, and you won't even have to hear from some stoner "hey man we should legalize this stuff" and that'll be a plus. All in all it will be taxed ALOT and our economy will boom, who knows maybe the crime rate will drop too. From personal experience whenever I got high, I didn't feel like robbing a mini-mart or shooting someone, I felt like making a bowl of cheeseburger  Hamburger Helper with Cheetos, and watching Super Troopers
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I don't understand what is wrong with people don't they understand how stupid this is. I mean are you kidding, they are so whacked out they cant even tell the difference of good and bad. What is the point to get happy for an hour? It is useless and dumb. For medical purposes its great but for everyone to be smoking it? I think we'd eventually adapt a permanent tolerance and not be able to use it medically in the future. Plus legalizing it would increase the flow of drugs with kids.
I don't understand what is wrong with people don't they understand how stupid this is. I mean are you kidding, they are so whacked out they cant even tell the difference of good and bad. What is the point to get happy for an hour? It is useless and dumb. For medical purposes its great but for everyone to be smoking it? I think we'd eventually adapt a permanent tolerance and not be able to use it medically in the future. Plus legalizing it would increase the flow of drugs with kids.
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Cradily is love :
I think you mean uruguay.
And a lot of nations are threatening sanctioning their exports, because it could become a major weed exporter.
We will see in due time what happens.
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I think you mean uruguay.
And a lot of nations are threatening sanctioning their exports, because it could become a major weed exporter.
We will see in due time what happens.
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I'm not super angry about marijuana being legalized, but I do think it's kind of dumb. I mean, with the legalization in Colorado and Montana (I thought it was Washington, but you said Montana???), while crime rates will go down, productivity will go down, too. Plus, I don't mean any offense with this, but I'm pretty sure most of the people wanting to legalize it are already stoners...Also, there's the kids. I know for a fact that at least 20 kids in our grade illegally do marijuana, and with it being legalized, it would be MUCH easier for them to obtain it. Heck, a few weeks ago in Colorado, a FOURTH grader was caught selling Marijuana to his buddies on the playground. A 4th grader!. By the way, we just learned about illegal drugs/drug abuse in Health class. With marijuana, it feels great when you start to use it. Then you start to develop a physical AND psychological tolerance, since your body has a withdrawl, and you get a very strong urge to feel the high you felt before again. With this happening, soon many people will be wasting ALL their money on getting high. There are some pros to legalizing marijuana, though. Crime rates will go down, and lots of people will be very happy. It might even boost the economoy, if only a little bit. But, I still don't agree with it too much. This is why I disagree with the legalization of marijuana. But if the US does legalize marijuana, I won't care TOO much. I just won't be smoking it myself .

(No offense to anybody  out there that smokes marijuana, of course! )
I'm not super angry about marijuana being legalized, but I do think it's kind of dumb. I mean, with the legalization in Colorado and Montana (I thought it was Washington, but you said Montana???), while crime rates will go down, productivity will go down, too. Plus, I don't mean any offense with this, but I'm pretty sure most of the people wanting to legalize it are already stoners...Also, there's the kids. I know for a fact that at least 20 kids in our grade illegally do marijuana, and with it being legalized, it would be MUCH easier for them to obtain it. Heck, a few weeks ago in Colorado, a FOURTH grader was caught selling Marijuana to his buddies on the playground. A 4th grader!. By the way, we just learned about illegal drugs/drug abuse in Health class. With marijuana, it feels great when you start to use it. Then you start to develop a physical AND psychological tolerance, since your body has a withdrawl, and you get a very strong urge to feel the high you felt before again. With this happening, soon many people will be wasting ALL their money on getting high. There are some pros to legalizing marijuana, though. Crime rates will go down, and lots of people will be very happy. It might even boost the economoy, if only a little bit. But, I still don't agree with it too much. This is why I disagree with the legalization of marijuana. But if the US does legalize marijuana, I won't care TOO much. I just won't be smoking it myself .

(No offense to anybody  out there that smokes marijuana, of course! )
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And the funniest thing I find about this (I know this isn't a funny topic, but anyway) is the first 2 states to legalize marijuana are Colorado and Washington respectively. Who played in this past Super Bowl? Denver and Seattle...coincidence? I think not!

Sorry, I just had to bring that up
And the funniest thing I find about this (I know this isn't a funny topic, but anyway) is the first 2 states to legalize marijuana are Colorado and Washington respectively. Who played in this past Super Bowl? Denver and Seattle...coincidence? I think not!

Sorry, I just had to bring that up
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It would definitely help keep minor criminals out of prison. People that really should not be there are there because of minor drug charges (weed). This would probably save us time and money, and an opportunity to make more money in the process. I hope it would not have too much of an effect on the international community though. That could pose a problem, and the US really does not need any more enemies right now. I still think this is a good thing overall either way. What is hilarious is that alcohol is just as debilitating and has worse long-term effects, yet it is still legal. 
It would definitely help keep minor criminals out of prison. People that really should not be there are there because of minor drug charges (weed). This would probably save us time and money, and an opportunity to make more money in the process. I hope it would not have too much of an effect on the international community though. That could pose a problem, and the US really does not need any more enemies right now. I still think this is a good thing overall either way. What is hilarious is that alcohol is just as debilitating and has worse long-term effects, yet it is still legal. 
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It was late when I posted this so I didn't fact check anything, I'll be sure to edit any errors out in a bit


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It was late when I posted this so I didn't fact check anything, I'll be sure to edit any errors out in a bit


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Thanks for the summon. Honestly, I believe that all drugs that alter the way people think (including alcohol) should be banned. I am not suggesting we try that again though, since Prohibition back in the 20s didn't go so well. I do not think it is a good idea to legalize Marijuana, though. It alters the way that you think. It can make you do stupid things. For example, my friend used to smoke Marijuana every now and then. He doesn't anymore because one time he took a picture of his junk and sent it to like 10 girls. He was 14 at the time, and so were they. He regretted it when he was "sober" (is that the right word?) again, and hasn't smoked since. I know that is a lame example, but it backs up my point: Marijuana alters the way that you think, and it can cause you to do stupid things that you normally wouldn't do. So I am against the decriminalization of Marijuana.
Thanks for the summon. Honestly, I believe that all drugs that alter the way people think (including alcohol) should be banned. I am not suggesting we try that again though, since Prohibition back in the 20s didn't go so well. I do not think it is a good idea to legalize Marijuana, though. It alters the way that you think. It can make you do stupid things. For example, my friend used to smoke Marijuana every now and then. He doesn't anymore because one time he took a picture of his junk and sent it to like 10 girls. He was 14 at the time, and so were they. He regretted it when he was "sober" (is that the right word?) again, and hasn't smoked since. I know that is a lame example, but it backs up my point: Marijuana alters the way that you think, and it can cause you to do stupid things that you normally wouldn't do. So I am against the decriminalization of Marijuana.
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tgags123 : That is not really a good reason to keep it criminalized, nor does it have that much of a drastic effect on everyone. There are great benefits to be had from the marijuana too, assuming people are willing to let go of the anti-marijuana mindset that has been held for a while. 

http://us.cnn.com/2014/07/28/health/federal-marijuana-bill/index.html. Take a read. This will only amend the strains that do not get users high, but there is no great reason for the rest to remain on the same level as heroin. If anything, it should be treated as alcohol now, which you are in favor of banning, apparently, but at the same time, not. 
tgags123 : That is not really a good reason to keep it criminalized, nor does it have that much of a drastic effect on everyone. There are great benefits to be had from the marijuana too, assuming people are willing to let go of the anti-marijuana mindset that has been held for a while. 

http://us.cnn.com/2014/07/28/health/federal-marijuana-bill/index.html. Take a read. This will only amend the strains that do not get users high, but there is no great reason for the rest to remain on the same level as heroin. If anything, it should be treated as alcohol now, which you are in favor of banning, apparently, but at the same time, not. 
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The reason its rated on such a high level is because if they lower it, more people will use it.
They changed cannabis from class C (mild issues) to class B, and moved it back to C after its use consequentially went up.

I don't really have a problem with individuals using it, but I dont want to encourage increased consumption by legalising it. I do believe there are issues with it, and I have seen those issues (Complete stoners, who can't think, even when they aren't high, depression in people who havent smoked recently, permanent paranoia).
That being said, I wouldn't really bother punishing people for using or growing it for personal consumption. I'd still target dealers though.

There are also genuine medicinal uses for it, for some people its almost the only thing that helps, from severe aches to PTSD.
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The reason its rated on such a high level is because if they lower it, more people will use it.
They changed cannabis from class C (mild issues) to class B, and moved it back to C after its use consequentially went up.

I don't really have a problem with individuals using it, but I dont want to encourage increased consumption by legalising it. I do believe there are issues with it, and I have seen those issues (Complete stoners, who can't think, even when they aren't high, depression in people who havent smoked recently, permanent paranoia).
That being said, I wouldn't really bother punishing people for using or growing it for personal consumption. I'd still target dealers though.

There are also genuine medicinal uses for it, for some people its almost the only thing that helps, from severe aches to PTSD.
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legal weed will probably increase our economy and probably decrease the crime rate. But if I made stealing legal our crime rate would drop too. I don't see smoking weed as beneficial to society, so I want people's money going elsewhere.

Instead of taxing it, keep it illegal and increase fines for those in possession or using. I'd actually like to have the law state that marijuana possession/selling/buying/using/whatever has no jail time ever, but that there are only very large fines. This way, they can release the person the same night, yet the punishment is felt long after AND it also increases government income.
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legal weed will probably increase our economy and probably decrease the crime rate. But if I made stealing legal our crime rate would drop too. I don't see smoking weed as beneficial to society, so I want people's money going elsewhere.

Instead of taxing it, keep it illegal and increase fines for those in possession or using. I'd actually like to have the law state that marijuana possession/selling/buying/using/whatever has no jail time ever, but that there are only very large fines. This way, they can release the person the same night, yet the punishment is felt long after AND it also increases government income.
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Really? This is the sort of "mind alteration" I get when I smoke

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Really? This is the sort of "mind alteration" I get when I smoke

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Tell me how that benefits the rest of the world and I'll change my position.
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Tell me how that benefits the rest of the world and I'll change my position.
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Txgangsta : Did I explicitly say it had any benefits? No I was just showing you the "dangerous mind alteration" of marijuana
Txgangsta : Did I explicitly say it had any benefits? No I was just showing you the "dangerous mind alteration" of marijuana
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Cradily is love :
Its the effect safter its 'worn off' that most people worry about. If it werent for that I wouldnt really have any objection to the stuff.
I still wouldnt smoke it though.
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Its the effect safter its 'worn off' that most people worry about. If it werent for that I wouldnt really have any objection to the stuff.
I still wouldnt smoke it though.
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thenumberone : I'm sorry, but one of us is doing something wrong, because I don't exactly get what you're saying XD lol

If you're saying how it's the effect after you've smoked and crave more, that's never happened to me, when I had no money for a month I didn't act like a desperate junkie and start selling my parents and my own possessions, I just kept calm and waited to get some money or weed, whichever came first.
thenumberone : I'm sorry, but one of us is doing something wrong, because I don't exactly get what you're saying XD lol

If you're saying how it's the effect after you've smoked and crave more, that's never happened to me, when I had no money for a month I didn't act like a desperate junkie and start selling my parents and my own possessions, I just kept calm and waited to get some money or weed, whichever came first.
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No, im talking about the effects, like paranoia, becoming permanent, regardless of when you last light up. It doesent happen to everyone but i'v seen it happen to people.
I can even tell by the way people talk if they smoke too much.
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No, im talking about the effects, like paranoia, becoming permanent, regardless of when you last light up. It doesent happen to everyone but i'v seen it happen to people.
I can even tell by the way people talk if they smoke too much.
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I'm not really American but I'll give my 2 cents on the matter.

Honestly I don't see why not, Alcohol has been proven to have far more negative effects, many people also talk about Marijuana being a gateway drug but that applies a lot more to alcohol which pretty much gets a free pass for whatever reason.

Also look at the Netherlands a country which has to some extent legalized marijuana and I'd argue that they don't seem to be doing that bad.
In fact I'd argue legalizing marijuana could bring some positives such as lowering the crime rate, increasing government income if you tax it,
not to mention the medical uses it has.

So I'd say either legalize marijuana or ban cigarettes and alcohol, not for harming the user but for potentially harming others such as in the case of drunk driving or second hand smoke.
I'm not really American but I'll give my 2 cents on the matter.

Honestly I don't see why not, Alcohol has been proven to have far more negative effects, many people also talk about Marijuana being a gateway drug but that applies a lot more to alcohol which pretty much gets a free pass for whatever reason.

Also look at the Netherlands a country which has to some extent legalized marijuana and I'd argue that they don't seem to be doing that bad.
In fact I'd argue legalizing marijuana could bring some positives such as lowering the crime rate, increasing government income if you tax it,
not to mention the medical uses it has.

So I'd say either legalize marijuana or ban cigarettes and alcohol, not for harming the user but for potentially harming others such as in the case of drunk driving or second hand smoke.
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Legalize, It's not the governments job to say what I do with my body.
Legalize, It's not the governments job to say what I do with my body.
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Vizzed.com is very expensive to keep alive! The Ads pay for the servers.

Vizzed has 3 TB worth of games and 1 TB worth of music.  This site is free to use but the ads barely pay for the monthly server fees.  If too many more people use ad block, the site cannot survive.

We prioritize the community over the site profits.  This is why we avoid using annoying (but high paying) ads like most other sites which include popups, obnoxious sounds and animations, malware, and other forms of intrusiveness.  We'll do our part to never resort to these types of ads, please do your part by helping support this site by adding Vizzed.com to your ad blocking whitelist.

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