If Hillary Clinton ran for president in 2016, without knowing who any of the other candidates are and basing it solely off of how you think she would do, would you vote for her? (If you aren't old enough to vote and you won't be old enough to vote in 2016 it doesn't matter. Just pretend that you can )

I can say without a doubt that I would not. While I don't think she would be as horrible as Obama (I don't think that is even possible), I think that she would be one of the worst presidents ever. First off, she is just plain stupid. Not just her political views, I mean in general. I am pretty sure my cat has a higher IQ than her. Second, she tried to hide the truth about Benghazi, and when she was asked about it, she replied "What difference does it make?" Not only is she trying to hide things from the American people, she openly admitted that she does not care about the American people. Hillary also did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING as Secretary of State. Why would she do any better as president? And last but not least, she is part of the Democratic Party.

So would you vote for Hillary Clinton if she ran for president in 2016?

She's not republican
So yes.

Barathemos : No, she is a democrat. Which is part of the reason that I would not vote for her.

tgags123 :

I think that Dr. Eggman would make a better president.

Yeah, she is definitely well qualified. It also is not as if other presidents have not said similar things on other matters. What she said was a good political ploy used to not bring harm to the US by foreign parties. Unless there is sufficient evidence to show that she really is just an idiot, and said that out of pure malice and idiocy. 

Also with your Obama comment, he's not really as horrible as you say. He's obviously not amazing, but he's not horrible. Stop letting your political party cloud your judgment entirely. 

Sword legion : Dr. Eggman ON LSD would make a better president xD

sop281 : How is she well qualified? "Stop letting your political party cloud your judgment entirely" says the guy who's profile says that he "abhors" Conservatism...

tgags123 : I may abhor conservatism, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't vote for a well-qualified Republican. Don't be silly. I just hate Republican's views when it comes to certain freedoms that they wish to deny to a large portion of the population. 

sop281 : "I just hate Republican's views when it comes to certain freedoms that they wish to deny to a large portion of the population." Says the guy who is pro gun control

And you never answered my question. How is she well qualified? Sure she was Secretary of State, but she didn't do anything. She can't even name one accomplishment.

tgags123 : Fair enough, but guns are dangerous, homosexuals are not.  

I was primarily referencing an on-paper record. Not much else. I never claimed that she did anything of real merit. 

sop281 : True,, guns can be dangerous, but they are also very useful in self defense. And you know what is more dangerous than guns and kills a heck of a lot more than guns? Abortion. And I do not really care if homosexuals are allowed to get married or not. Most people that are against it are against it because of their religion. But I am really not that religious, which might be why I don't really care about it. If I had to choose, I would actually allow gays to get married. That is one of the only things that I have a liberal view on.

And going back to a previous post of yours, I never said that I would never vote for a democrat. But it is highly unlikely that I ever will, since I do not really agree with any of their opinions (with very few exceptions, such as gay marriage).

tgags123 : Abortion is honestly good for keeping down the world population. It is pretty much a necessary evil at this point. Imagine how screwed the world would be without it. There are a bunch of other reasons, but I am pretty much just derailing the thread now, so I'll stop.

Edit: Don't say things when tired. 

sop281 :

"Yeah, she is definitely well qualified. It also is not as if other presidents have not said similar things on other matters. What she said was a good political ploy used to not bring harm to the US by foreign parties."

I would say that she did it to cover up. Let's no forget the blood that Bill Clinton has on his hands. Yes, Bill Clinton is not the same person as Hilary, but you must ask what someone is doing married to someone like that, now, don't tell me it means nothing, if Sarah Palin or some other conservative were married to a murderer, then you would not let that one slide, would you?

I don't wish to get off topic but I noticed that the picture that comes after "I abhor conservatism"in your bio isn't much better than tgags post. :/

homosexuals are dangerous in a way I could not stress enough, but the fact that they force their lifestyle in everyone's face and that we're supposed to love them is pure enough insanity. I, for one. Am not an actually insane person, or someone who overlooks insanity for the sake of harmony. It's great, people should try it more.

But, that is not what this thread is about, so I will not go there anyfurther- just enough to have my say and speak for one side. I WOULD like to remind everyone about that~

No, I would not. The way she wants stuff to run would hurt out eceonomy, take benefits from Veterans ( that we don't get in the first place ), and the money that we don't have would go to countries that don't want out help in the first place. 

I think she would be worse than Obama. 

Sword legion : a dead guy would be a better president, as long as he wasn't republican.

Sword legion : "homosexuals are dangerous in a way I could not stress enough, but the fact that they force their lifestyle in everyone's face and that we're supposed to love them is pure enough insanity. I, for one. Am not an actually insane person, or someone who overlooks insanity for the sake of harmony. It's great, people should try it more." 

I did not want to derail again, but this is blatantly wrong. I don't understand how you think they are forcing their lifestyle in everyone's face. We have laws against homosexuals in nearly every country. They do not ask you to love them, but don't shove YOUR beliefs down THEIR throats. They are not allowed to marry, they are killed, they are shunned, and people rally against them to say that they are going to hell for their "sins". 

This picture sums it up very well, satirically: 

sop281 : Nah, don't stop. The whole point of this was pretty much to start a debate. That is why it is in the Debate forum

I agree that the world population is getting too high, but there is a thing called a condom. There are other forms of birth control out there. Again, I am not your stereotypical Christian Conservative that doesn't believe in any birth control at all. I am just against birth control that happens after the baby is created, such as abortion. I have nothing against condoms, or even promoting the use of them.

Sword legion : I have a lot of gay friends. They aren't all that bad. A lot of them are relatively "normal", and even the ones that aren't "normal" don't try to force their lifestyle in everyone's face. I do know what you are talking about though. There are some gays out there that are like that.

Barathemos :

You can hate on a group all you want, but you can find people just as bad within your own said group, I guarantee, that's why I don't really cling to groups. I loved Ronald Reagen for example, yet many others hated him, (he was a democrat at first).

sop281 :  

I let you post one thing about homosexuals and countered it, and then stopped cause that's not what this thread is for.

Do you really have to bring something like that back out? This could easily become spam at this point and I'm not going to continue it. Stick to the basis of the thread, there is no honor in trying to "sneak one in".

Sword legion : yeah, I dislike Obama too, just I'm a democrat so I lean toward them.

Barathemos : I know this is a little off-topic, but would you have voted for Obama over Romney?

Sword legion : I agree with your Reagan comment, he was a great president!

Honestly, I am not sure that I would vote for Hillary if she was a Republican. She is just such an air head.

tgags123 : as much as it hurts to say, Romney.