hello there guys!

i know that god is omniscient and omnipotent.

but i want to know why he doesn´t heal me of my unknown disease in my mind.

it is a weird disease that my remedies don´t have effect, and force me to watch upwards,

giving me dificult for watch normally for all directions.

i know that this mine mind disease, was caused by a unholy spirit, when a prayed wrong, (i had to give in name of jesus).

it is been more than 4 years that i have this disease and i can´t heal with my prayers, cause i don´t know the name of my disease.

this thing also blocks me to do even a walking on the street, making this dangerous when my disease attacks at any time of the day.

normally i pray to god to heal me from this disease, even if i don´t know the name of this (i give a name for disease by myself)...

what i do now? do you think i need to believe in god, that he knows everything, in hope and waiting for my healing? i hope so...

say something about this... i need very much your advice... thanks for the patience! heartly, allan.

uh...I think you should see a doctor.
Given You dont know the name of your condition, and are attributing it to praying wrong, im fairely confident in saying you cant yet have visited one.
Leaving the validity of god aside, he wont heal you. Just look at Africa.
If you are in genuine need of healing you ought to get medical treatment before it gets worse.

To sum this issue up quickly, God made doctors to heal diseases, go seek medical attention, no amount of prayer can help you. Sometimes your faith might persuade you to not seek medical attention but after all God created everyone (according to your faith) that means he also created Doctors to heal diseases. I believe God made everyone with a purpose and a Doctors purpose is to help you or cure you of disease and to make you healthy after all why would God create doctors if he didn't want you to use their services?, anyways God made doctors to help you, he has fulfilled your prayer already and I honestly hope you go see a doctor provided by God before your condition worsens or in the worst case scenario you die.

Neo Arcadia :

Actually, the Bibles says that you can pray to be healed.

But. . . kindof like you pointed out. . .that is the doctors job most of the time, and some people do have that God given talent. On the other hand, God makes us responsible to avoid getting sick in the first place most of the time.

I'm not sure what to say allan, you can pray, but you must have no doubt that you will be healed in order to be healed. But you can also pray for God to look at you mercifully and heal you even though you only have a little faith, and are not perfect.

I leave this for someone with more experience in this area to answer.

But yeah, you may be right about this being an unholy spirit causing this. I recommend you place an amulet with the Jewish letter for God around your neck and see if that works. That is what the sages of old used to do, as luck, or God would have it, I've been reading about demons in the Talmud, and there are a few cures for such things. Including singing, (to God, or about God, even praising him for keeping you safe from evil spirits). Can't say that this will work for sure, but it might if it is in fact an evil spirit causing this.

next time, I won't make a post when I'm so sleepy. O_-

I do not personally believe that when something bad happens, that means it is some sort of religious punishment. I don't believe everything has a rhyme or reason for happening. Things just happen. You can't just immediately blame praying wrong. If people got punished for stuff like that, there would be a LOT more people sick for reasons like that. Get medical help.

Uhm... I don't believe in that praying helps you out of situations like this. You need Medical attention. Really go seek a doctor. They will help you.

Actually, through prayers, it IS possible for you to be healed, but there is a few requirements for that to happen:

God turns things from impossible to possible, the possible things you can handle yourself, so if something is within your reach, go for it and don't keep waiting on God, not that this is your situation, but make sure you try to find help in all the places you can first.
And even if something is really impossible, the impossible will happen at the right time or will not happen at all, if it's not God's allowance.

In short, go seek help to doctors first.

allan zuben :

Where are you getting anything that says "God will heal your disease if you know it's name" or "If you don't pray 'in Jesus' name' an evil spirit will afflict you with a disease"? God made the universe, and he rarely ever goes outside the rules he himself has created. God gave you creation, so go use it and get better. If the problem is physical, go to a doctor. Every time. The Great Physician will not make you immortal just yet, so use the gifts that you have been given on this side of grave.

Hello. I'm just a new member here and I don't know anyone of you yet. But when I was browsing around the forums board I was totally interested in these kind of topic labelled as "Christian Conservatives". It is such a strong word. And in agreement with the others who replied that you should seek a doctor, I should add that praying is just a primitive move of man to ask and wait for something to happen. It never contributed anything in terms of medical approach to diseases. Praying is just the same as talking to yourself. It never helped anyone or anything and it never will. If they say that God will do this or God will do that, it's like they are telling you that, "Hey, my imaginary friend will give you this if you will do this and that." And we must remember that people with imaginary friends are stupid. The universe is too big to conclude that God is omnipotent since we never explore everything yet. Instead of "Let's find out" we always stumble to failure in progress because of  "So therefore, God." And to all Christian fanatics out there, please stop telling ignorant people that some unhealed diseases are God's punishment because of this and that. Instead of blaming others why not spend our energy in looking for a cure. Let's all grow up and start to believe in ourselves. 

psaetahn : Just to tell you, God doesn't punish anyone in that way. He changed methods to let people choose their path, Heaven or Hell. If I choose one, there is little hope, until I realize my mistake and turn to God.
rcarter2 : I wouldn't say that God heals people automatically (right away) through prayer. Most of the "healers" are complete hoaxes... (Sorry but most would admit, the people getting healed had no medical problem in the first place.)
allan zuben : I don't think it is a problem of wrong prayer. It most likely is part of the sin curse in early Genesis. The one were we became fallen creatures and had disease ect. I would pray for God to heal/help you, but don't just pray for help. God likes to help, but he wants you to do something too. Go to the doctors, see what you have, and see what medical treatments are available. It could be from malnutrition or some other temporary problem.

darthyoda : I think you summoned the wrong person. I never said God heals people automatically through prayer. I said the exact opposite, as I said he needs to seek real medical attention.

darthyoda :

"He changed methods to let people choose their path, Heaven or Hell."

That is horrible theology. God chooses us, not the other way around. If you can "choose heaven", Jesus did not fully save you, you saved yourself by choosing. 

Because if God aided anyone that asked for his help it would be too easy.

Txgangsta : It is a choice. If you choose to accept Christ as your personal savior then you chose Heaven. If you choose to reject him, then you have choosen the other path.

#darthyoda:


Please correct me if I were wrong, but it seems you wanted me to think that I did said what you told everyone here in this thread. Let me rephrase everything and get me straight to my point: that God doesn't exist which makes prayer a useless action in terms of medical research. Treating a disease needs accurate observation, patient study, and precise conclusion in order to perfectly heal a certain disease. Both physician and nurse vigorously and patiently doing their best in attending their clients is better than a thousand knees bowed down in prayer. Would you like me to pray if you were choking right now or would you like me to perform CPR on you? It is really that simple. Instead of praying why not do something? There's no God up there who cares. If He cared then why let it happen? Is this same God whom they labelled as "the only perfect thing in this world"?; the one who they claimed created this world? A perfect God who created an imperfect world?


And another thing I noticed in your comment is that you say "choice" as if choice is not a gift for us for enjoy freely because your God owns it. If God is all knowing and sees everything? Then why do we have free will? I know this is just a pathetic attempt of mine to open the eyes of someone who thinks a guy up there who will come down here on earth during The Final Days in shining clothes to reward them of their Good deeds. But I think I need to tell you that, we are just animals roaming around in this place called Earth. Choice is a gift to us by nature since birth which is ours to use and abuse. We do things based on what we think and believe is right. Life is too precious to waste by expecting some imaginary superhuman being called "God" to reward us by doing what we think pleases that imaginary deity. It's just the same as believing in Batman will save you from criminals so there is no need to fear walking around the streets at midnight. You believe Batman is real because it is written in this comic book (bible). I say enjoy life without the burden of being thrown in Hell because the truth is there is no afterlife. 


To Christians or some other religious fanatics reading this post right now, this might be hard to comprehend considering the logical patterns your brain has developed through out these years. Thanks to the indoctrination your church forcibly implanted in your brains during your most tender young years. You've grown to believe that their is a God who will throw you in Hell if you decide to doubt his existence and start to question the why's and how of this beliefs that organized religions have. God hates Satan because the Devil knows the man itself knows how to think for himself. He doesn't need a God just to know and decide what is wrong and right. Man is responsible for his own actions and not some "Glory be to God." nor "The Devil made me do it". There is only "I am my own Messiah. Am I not strong enough to save myself against my own enemies?" If people today still hold firmly to the theory that your God has complete control in this universe, then snakes would still talk up to this generation we are currently in. Do you Christians still use your own brain and ask yourselves. "Is there really a God up there who cares?"? Try to ask Him that. Thanks. Now I can rest my case.

darthyoda :

If I choose heaven and God does not choose me, I do not go to heaven. If I am deemed unworthy by the Almighty, it doesn't really matter what kind of choosing I do.

Matthew 22:14

Many are invited, but few are chosen.

Txgangsta : So one can commit their lives to the word of God and follow it better than most, but if they weren't chose, then it is all for nothing? Am I misinterpreting what you said? If not, what is the point in following the word of God if the thing that matters is if you were chosen? Any church I have attended says that you accept Jesus into your heart, and you will be saved. But you are saying you can accept Jesus in your heart, but it only matters if God chose you.

I think it's important to remember that God isn't confined to our hopes, dreams, or requests. He is not required to heal you, though it will always work for the good of those who love God. So, if you're saved by God, this will ultimately work for your good. Perhaps it won't be in the way we expect, nor the way we want, but it will be in the way God has deemed. A good quote I heard recently is this - "If we knew everything God knows, we wouldn't change a single decision He's made. Trust God, cuz (if you're saved) He's gonna bring you through this in His way, not necessarily yours.

rcarter2:

Nearly. If someone commits their lives to the word of God and follow it better than most, God chose them before they started the commitment and the like. The person who God does not choose literally cannot commit their lives to God. Here's the whole parable.

Matthew 22:2-14

“The kingdom of heaven is like a king who prepared a wedding banquet for his son. He sent his servants to those who had been invited to the banquet to tell them to come, but they refused to come. “Then he sent some more servants and said, ‘Tell those who have been invited that I have prepared my dinner: My oxen and fattened cattle have been butchered, and everything is ready. Come to the wedding banquet.’ “But they paid no attention and went off—one to his field, another to his business. The rest seized his servants, mistreated them and killed them. The king was enraged. He sent his army and destroyed those murderers and burned their city. “Then he said to his servants, ‘The wedding banquet is ready, but those I invited did not deserve to come. So go to the street corners and invite to the banquet anyone you find.’ So the servants went out into the streets and gathered all the people they could find, the bad as well as the good,and the wedding hall was filled with guests. “But when the king came in to see the guests, he noticed a man there who was not wearing wedding clothes. He asked, ‘How did you get in here without wedding clothes, friend?’ The man was speechless. “Then the king told the attendants, ‘Tie him hand and foot, and throw him outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’ “For many are invited, but few are chosen.”

The first group invited are the Jews, who first received the "invitation". It's not that they said "no", but that they "rejected" it. The random people on the streets are the non-Jews, and all sorts of people come. However, some people are still not worthy and have shown up disrespectfully. Everyone has been invited, but not everyone wants to go, and will not be chosen.