The Nintendo Wii is barely any more powerful than the Nintendo GameCube, so why the Nintendo Wii $250, even still? The system is weak and outdated and is last gen quality, and the "technology" that it has is all in the remote itself so I don't see how that affects the price of the Wii itself (not to mention it's old technology).

Sure, the Nintendo Wii has a few really good games but it probably has one of the worst library of games of any system I've ever seen. You can go to any website, the average rating of a Nintendo Wii game is way below 5 and there's really not many games that are above a 9.

And what was all that crap for the past few Christmas's of Wii shortages? I personally think that was all BS, there's no reason why Nintendo would have problems producing enough Nintendo Wii's, especially if they had all year to prepare for the Christmas season but once the Christmas season comes around, they magically run low. What really is going on is, Nintendo intentionally does it to make it seem like the Nintendo Wii is in such huge demand and when humans think something is in huge demand and is a must have item, everyone scrambles to get it because all of a sudden they think they need it. Now whether this was really the case or not, it sure seemed like it and it sure worked.

I've played 5 Nintendo Wii games that were fun and that's pretty pathetic considering I've played 20+ Wii games, the rest were just no fun at all. But I do admit that the Wii games that are fun are REALLY fun but this system just doesn't offer enough entertainment, especially not for $250 of outdated hardware.

So what do the rest of you guys think?

I agree it is a waste of money, and I cant stand its controls.
Innovative my ass, if I want repetitive strain injury I'm sure I can think of a better way then flailing my arms around in an attempt to play a game.
And the selection of games is even worse in australia, a whole bunch of party crap or games that rely on side flailing about to play them.
I was already losing respect for nintendo when the gamecube came out due to the poor quality of releases of rpg's we would get as compared to the psx/ps2, but the wii is the final nail in their console coffin to me.
And what is with this virtual store rubbish, they want me to buy a rom that doesnt even run properly??
Yeah right, I'll stick with my old nes/snes carts and GYR thank you very much.
They would have to pull off some major necromancy to regain my loyalty.

I can also apply alot of the things I wrote to my feelings about the other current gen consoles, but as this is a wii thread I wont

I'm going to compare the Nintendo Wii's price with Xbox 360 and PS3's prices to give an idea of how much of a rip off the Nintendo Wii is compared to those other 2 systems.



Xbox 360 - $200 (new)
Far More Powerful
A ton of features
US Standard Retail Games rated 9 or above = 34
US Standard Retail Games Rated below 5 = 57

Playstation 3 - $300 (new; recent price drop)
Far More Powerful
A lot of features
US Standard Retail Games rated 9 or above = 27
US Standard Retail Games Rated below 5 = 34

Nintendo Wii - $250 (new)
Not nearly as powerful
Not many features for the money
US Standard Retail Games rated 9 or above = 10
US Standard Retail Games Rated below 5 = 146



I personally don't mind some games requiring the motion, I just wouldn't like it if all games utilized it. I mean, I love playing the Wii Fit and some of the games on there are really fun but it wouldn't be a game I'd put more than an a half hour into straight.

I don't think the console itself costs too much.

The accessories and addons on the other hand.

Let's say you want a new controller? Well you better get a new nunchuk and wii motion plus for it.

And wii fit thingy.

Those are far overpriced, the system itself is fine.

No. We have one I use it alot. From the games and channels we have my five favorite are the internet channel, Wii Play, Wii Sports, Pokemon Battle Revolution, and Pinball. The other games and channels we have are Neighorborhood Games, My Pokemon Ranch, The Mii Channel, The Nintendo Channel, Photo Channel 1.1, Forcast Channel, News Channel, The Everybody Votes Channel, and Lego Indaina Jones.

The Australian prices on the consoles are bad.

PS3 $699.00
Slim $499.00
No price drop announced.

360
Pro $399.00
Elite $549.00

Wii
$368.00

So actually here the Wii has the least mark up I suppose.
We also pay double what the Americans do on most games, even though the exchange rate is 1 U.S. dollar = 1.19889701 AU dollar...

And yeah, to much motion stuff for RPGs and such, like David I dont mind if it's for say Wii-Fit, but for an actual game...

DH: How much does the Xbox 360 Arcade unit go for in Australia?

I'm getting all my prices from EB Games Australia, so pretty much the standard prices if there are no sales.
360 Arcade is $299.00, so converted to USD its about $250.
So if you were meaning the arcade in your post then it might have the least mark up.

Yeah the Arcade unit is what I meant and it looks like it's cheaper than the Wii there also. Sure the Arcade unit doesn't have a hard drive but neither does the Wii. For an extra $20, you can attach a 20GB hard drive to the Xbox 360 Arcade Unit (plus the unit comes with 5 xbox live games and a memory card).

For Games?
The Nintendo Wii could have potential, this system would be fantastic for adventure and platforming games.

But for shooters? The Wii is the type of console which iD or Valve would touch with 10 foot pole.

Personally I think shooters shouldnt be on consoles period, with the exception of games like Time Crisis and House of the Dead (but only using a "light gun").
So in those small exceptions the Wii is ok.
Apart from that, no, less "innovation" more old style controls.

It's weird because I've always liked FPS games on consoles better than on computer because I much rather play games with a controller than with a keyboard and mouse, the only exception to this is The Sims and RTS games. Half Life 2, for example, I played it for both PC and Xbox 360 and I enjoyed it a lot better on my Xbox 360, just more comfortable that way and I can enjoy it with 46 inches of LCD and surround sound

I think the nintendo wii is fine
its not based to be a more adult game system its a family friendy on come on look at the games super mario galaxy the wii ware series super smash brothers brawl how iis this anything but a family system

Yeah, its that Nintendo stopped being a company for gamers and started being a company for families.
I suppose it means they get a bigger slice of the pie, but it sort of feels like they betrayed all us old school gamers, you know?

Originally posted by Red Knucks

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I think the nintendo wii is fine
its not based to be a more adult game system its a family friendy on come on look at the games super mario galaxy the wii ware series super smash brothers brawl how iis this anything but a family system

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But after that? Honestly there are a few good games for Wiiware and then its just shovelware. Brawl is good for around two weeks, same with Super Mario Bros. The last time I enjoyed the wii was with No More Heroes.

Nintendo needs to stop with its Family Freindly Famicom Image and start looking at gaming these days.

Well,the nintendo wii isn't a rip-off to me,but you gotta pay alot of money if you want to have wired internet on the wii.I used to have wireless internet on the wii,but then I lost my wireless internet.....for an unknown reason...

No you can download the classic and some of the best retro titles with this system and PS3 is really pushing it. The wii also brings a whole new way of playing that involves you to actually move around instead of pushing a button.

Wow, I can buy ROMS from nintendo that might not run at 100% and have a limited library?
Color me unimpressed.

Originally posted by JP1226

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No you can download the classic and some of the best retro titles with this system and PS3 is really pushing it. The wii also brings a whole new way of playing that involves you to actually move around instead of pushing a button.

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Like Hyren said, I can get ROMS that let you play online, a BIG mistake for the Wii. And honestly, I don't want to move around in my games because all it does is make you act like a retard in front of your TV. Plus, many games don't even function well with the wii-mote.

Yes and yes. I don't really care that the graphics aren't as good as the 360 and PS3, because graphics are a small factor of the game. It's the lack of quality games with a deep storyline and that are just fun. Most of the games are meant for casual gamers and families. A few for us that actually like games like Devil May Cry. Most of the games even have trouble with the controls. They make you feel like a spas, flailing your arms around.

As for the Virtual Console, OOOOOOOH AI GOT EMULATION! AI CULD NVR HAV EMULATION B4! Seriously, I'd much rather go to GYR and download the emulator(which, sadly, usually works better than Nintendo's emulator ) and download the ROM.

Wiiware. Most of it is trash designed to hook in the kiddies and get money. I'd rather go on Xbox LIVE or PlayStation Network and get quality games than waste money on shovelware.

There are a few golden games, such as Mario Galaxy, Zelda Twilight Princess, and Smash Bros Brawl. However, the majority of the games are trash.

i think the same of the WII as everyone else,the only reason Id want 1 is so i could play nintendo ds games on it(if it can do that,idk if it can though)

Originally posted by Rasenganfan2

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As for the Virtual Console, OOOOOOOH AI GOT EMULATION! AI CULD NVR HAV EMULATION B4! Seriously, I'd much rather go to GYR and download the emulator(which, sadly, usually works better than Nintendo's emulator ) and download the ROM.

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Rasen, I agree with your point for the VC but I think the problem is with this. So I have a freind in Sweden named Tim and he can't download ROMS due to how the Swedish government looks at the internet actvivty, and he has to buy the roms.
And for runescape123, I believe the homebrew channel allows for DS games to be played.

Originally posted by xfighter1138

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Rasen, I agree with your point for the VC but I think the problem is with this. So I have a freind in Sweden named Tim and he can't download ROMS due to how the Swedish government looks at the internet actvivty, and he has to buy the roms.

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He should use a proxy. Alot of Swedish people download roms no problems from what I understand.
My point is if you are paying for it it should be better and superior to what is available free, not limited and inferior.

So yeah, f*** NINTENDO FOR MAKING A GOOD LEGAL ALTERNATIVE FOR PLAYING OUR OLD GAMES THAT ARE HARD TO COME BY NOWADAYS.

Yeah, makes perfect sense.

the nintendo wii prosmised things it couldn't deliver just like geroge bush!!!!


so to anser your question, the wii is geroge bush.

the wii still has a few years to redeem itself. resi evil 4? madworld? supermariogalaxy? brawl? all exceptional games. lately there've been quite a few good wii games and i think there are more to come what with the addition of the wiimotionplus.

I cant stand the controls for Wii games, as I have mentioned before.
Granted there is a small amount of games that are ok, but most are for children and family, not for hardcore gamers.
I would like to see more games like Muramasa come out, that have some difficulty and where you can use an actual controller instead.
Even the games creators admit that the controller option is better, stating they put it in for "precision players".
Are we forgetting video games are for lazing about to play while sports and outdoor activitys are there for exercise?
I say stop this motion nonsense, its just a stupid gimmick, go back to proper game controls.

Well i personaly think the wii is OK My uncle got use one for Christmas last year and a bunch of games. I Think it was all about 200-300 dollars. I have only played the wii about 23 times and the games got boring after about playing each of them for about 4 hours. I did love the wii sport resort and mario kart games and still play them when i get the chance. but all in all i dont think i should be that pricey it was not actually that cool and if you want to spend that kind of money then do it on PSP or DS games (PS This is what i think of it dont hate mail me please)

Dont worry about the games
There are like 3 new awesome games for the wii coming out (one out already)
mario and sonic at the winter games (out now!)
New super mairo bros (also out now)
AND SUPER MARIO GALAXY 2 (OUT FEB 2010)
and SMG1 GOT 9.5
maybe this game will get 10 (after a long time)

Originally posted by Didowe

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Dont worry about the games
There are like 3 new awesome games for the wii coming out (one out already)
mario and sonic at the winter games (out now!)
New super mairo bros (also out now)
AND SUPER MARIO GALAXY 2 (OUT FEB 2010)
and SMG1 GOT 9.5
maybe this game will get 10 (after a long time)

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WOW, THREE GAMES! Seriously, compare that to the 360 or PS3 and you just get raped by them. And I'm sorry but Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games was an awful game and New Super Mario Bros Wii is just the same thing with a new level or two plus a multiplayer mode.

And Super Mario Galaxy 2 probably won't get a 10, seeing as most games this years have innovative then that ever will.

not be beacuse i got my wii for $28.00 so ummmm.. il ike it it has madden 09, 07, and 08....

I voted yes mainly because of its lack of RPGs :/

Other than that, it doesn't really bother me. I do think it's smart of them, though, to make a game that makes you exercise. People that normally wouldn't get out that play that at least get a little exercise.

Doesn't the Xbox 360 keep having hardware problems? Also, the Wii seems to have more game variety. Weither or not you like the games or the arm flailing is another story.

Voted no

because of MARIO KART the best racing game EVER!!

WII needs Rpgs that are actually good (XBOX you too)

Originally posted by Lagslayer

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Doesn't the Xbox 360 keep having hardware problems? Also, the Wii seems to have more game variety. Weither or not you like the games or the arm flailing is another story.

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The Wii may have more system stability I'll grant that, but so does the PS3.
Plus sheer variety does not a good console make as it means there is no focus and a large portion of pure gamers are left out in the cold if they have a Wii.
Having a console for one or two good games is pointless, especially in the Wiis case, one might as well just find something like it on another console that has more of that specific game achetype.

Originally posted by Lagslayer

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Doesn't the Xbox 360 keep having hardware problems? Also, the Wii seems to have more game variety. Weither or not you like the games or the arm flailing is another story.

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This is about the wii Sir not xbox 360

admit! the Wii is out there for all ages. Even though none of it appeals to me xD it mostly appeals to young kids and older adults. Us teens and pre-dults is all about the 360 and ps3 oh yes! I dont think its a rip tho

I realy think there is no wii scam. Most wii games are awsome well ecept the movies game.

I think every console is overpriced... but I like the Wii. I like the different idea it put forward. Is it perfect? Of course not. Is it tough to make good games for that controller combo? YUP!

I think the idea was good but shouldn't have been so exclusive. It shouldn't have been built solely around the controller and the games designed for it. Give the more adult/serious gamers some game variety and it would have been a great system.

As is I wouldn't buy any of the consoles.... but I haven't enjoyed console gaming for a while now.

I had high hopes for the wii, and it was alot of fun at first but the lack of good games has made the wii dusty and lonely aside from the new excitebike/castlevania

Now that I have a Wii, I can provide some new opinions on it. The motion sensitive controller is very responsive, but the concept has been overused and misused. I think they try too hard to make a lot of the games utilize the motion sensitive technology, and it can ruin what could otherwise be a perfectly good game. The games appeal to a broader range of people because it targets mostly the casual gamers, much to the dismay of hardcore gamers (also, hardcore games are more expensive to produce). The limited graphics don't bother me, but I don't like the arm flailing most of the time. A few more hardcore/semi-hardcore games would be welcomed, too.

An interesting article I've discovered has some relevant information as well.
http://www.wikinvest.com/concept/Game_Consoles_Wars:_Xbox_360_vs._PS3_vs._Wii

Sorry but I chose yes.

But at first I thought the WII is just crazy, harder and more exciting, but when I was at the shop buying it, I had a feeling that the WII might not be fun as the old games, but my sister and brother wanted to buy it soooo badly, so we bought it (and over 10 games), and after 2 weeks, I got bored of it, because its games didn't have a long story (which makes the game longer), and so easy that I can win by playing my own feet (I haven't tried that but I will), so that why it was a rap off for me.

I think the Nintendon Wii is pretty good!! But I do agree that there are alot of games that are not great!! But like every Nintendo Wii game I have is pretty awesome such as...Super Smash Bros Brawl, Punch-Out, Mario & Sonic At The Olympic games, WWE Smackdown. VS. Raw 2010, Wii-Fit Plus, Mario Kart Wii, Wii Sports, & The Biggest Loser!!


& did you know that you can play Punch-Out on the Wii-Fit board?? Which I normally do when I play Punch-Out!!


P.S. I might be getting a Playstation 3 as well, but then again it is possible that I might change my mind & get an XBOX 360 instead, but we'll see!!

David basically said it all. Nintendo Wii is awful.

The one thing about it that i like is turning the controller sideways and playing old nintendo games on it.

Well for WWE Smackdown .VS. Raw 2010, the Playstation 3 or Xbox 360 version is probably better, so those who has a Playstation 3 or an XBOX 360 you probably better off getting that WWE game for one of these two!! I have only played the Nintendo Wii version of Smackdown .vs. Raw 2010, but I just kinda assume that Playstation 3 or Xbox version is better!!

I don't really like the controller, but I love the Wii Fit! That being the case, I voted no, because I think that even if the technology is older, the Wii Fit balance board is, as far as I know, a new application of said older technology.

The Wii is being used with a under made system because it can. The main reason many people get it is because of the exercise programs it has.

The Nintendo Wii is a good system but I think they made the worst system this decade.

The Wii price has dropped to $200 I don't know how long ago. What you are forgeting is that there is the Virtual Console on the Wii and the Wii Shop
Channel. You can buy a ton of new games exclusively for the Wii on the Wii Shop Channel. You can even buy a majority of the retro games that are here on Vizzed, on the Wii Shop Channel. Yes, the graphics aren't the best and yes they don't have a lot of the games that the PS3 and 360 have. But it does have a lot of games that the PS3 and 360 don't. Zelda, Mario, and Metriod are exclusive to Nintendo and have some of the most popular games ever are in those series. Nintendo also has Super Smash Bros. which is so successful that they decided to make 2 more after the first. (SSBB is the BEST GAME EVER!!!)The Wii does have it's weaknesses. One of the biggest being that it doesn't have many games for the older audiences but that's only because it's more for the casual gamer. I would like more hardcore games on it but it doesn't look like its gonna happen. I do sometimes wish that I had a PS3 but the Wii has its advantages and disadvantages just like any other game system.