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08-09-13 06:25 PM
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I don't think suicide is ever a logical option. I actually used to be very suicidal, and along with the me being a Christian (Bible says to not do that) I also found out there are steps to getting through it. If anyone is suicidal, they need something to look forward to, to make them want to live for something. They also need to know their life isn't just theirs. They have a family and (hopefully) friends who care about them. And killing yourself will only cause pain and suffering to everyone close to them. I agree that having someone mercy-killing might be an option if you have a terminal illness and will spend the last months of life in horrible pain.
I don't think suicide is ever a logical option. I actually used to be very suicidal, and along with the me being a Christian (Bible says to not do that) I also found out there are steps to getting through it. If anyone is suicidal, they need something to look forward to, to make them want to live for something. They also need to know their life isn't just theirs. They have a family and (hopefully) friends who care about them. And killing yourself will only cause pain and suffering to everyone close to them. I agree that having someone mercy-killing might be an option if you have a terminal illness and will spend the last months of life in horrible pain.
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I believe there are very few situations in which suicide is not a bad choice, by virtue of the hopelessness necessary for such an action. I believe that all people should try to maintain hope as strongly as possible, as long as possible. However, in situations where one has lost all hope, I believe suicide is a fairly reasonable action, and I have no moral objections to it. On the other hand, there are actions that would almost certainly result in death, as a sort of assisted suicide, that could, possibly do some good for the world. For example, trying to talk down a murderer or other criminal.
I believe there are very few situations in which suicide is not a bad choice, by virtue of the hopelessness necessary for such an action. I believe that all people should try to maintain hope as strongly as possible, as long as possible. However, in situations where one has lost all hope, I believe suicide is a fairly reasonable action, and I have no moral objections to it. On the other hand, there are actions that would almost certainly result in death, as a sort of assisted suicide, that could, possibly do some good for the world. For example, trying to talk down a murderer or other criminal.
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mvhupsel : trust me suicide is just not cool I know that the number 1 reason for youth suicide is cyber bulling and how I know that what you say  or post stays there forever and it can not be erased and if the person knows that there being cyber bullied it can drive them on a path of killing them self and if they have to go behind there profile and say bad stuff then they don't need a computer i for 1 am planning to put a stop to this madness once and for all 
mvhupsel : trust me suicide is just not cool I know that the number 1 reason for youth suicide is cyber bulling and how I know that what you say  or post stays there forever and it can not be erased and if the person knows that there being cyber bullied it can drive them on a path of killing them self and if they have to go behind there profile and say bad stuff then they don't need a computer i for 1 am planning to put a stop to this madness once and for all 
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10-20-13 07:50 PM
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There have been quite a few suicides in my circle of friends. Either friends of my own, friends of friends or relatives or relatives of friends. Plus a number of cases when somebody has overdosed but have not left a note behind so it is hard to tell if it was an accident or not.

The pointlessness of these deaths have gotten rid of all the angsty thoughts of self destruction I used to have myself. I mean, these are the cards I have now and I want to see them through. Whatever  were the reasons for the people I have known to take their lives, I wish not to give them glory for it yet I cannot fault them since I have always believed your life is yours and not anyone elses. Yet, when you survive and live on when somebody else commits suicide, you always bare a little bit of guilt. At least I do. I also feel a bit guilty for a death of my friend who was victim of a homicide, even though it had nothing to do with me. It is just that "maybe I could have done something, said something and things would have been different". Though it is very easy to be smart in hindsight.

But seeing all the death just makes me want to be alive more than ever.
There have been quite a few suicides in my circle of friends. Either friends of my own, friends of friends or relatives or relatives of friends. Plus a number of cases when somebody has overdosed but have not left a note behind so it is hard to tell if it was an accident or not.

The pointlessness of these deaths have gotten rid of all the angsty thoughts of self destruction I used to have myself. I mean, these are the cards I have now and I want to see them through. Whatever  were the reasons for the people I have known to take their lives, I wish not to give them glory for it yet I cannot fault them since I have always believed your life is yours and not anyone elses. Yet, when you survive and live on when somebody else commits suicide, you always bare a little bit of guilt. At least I do. I also feel a bit guilty for a death of my friend who was victim of a homicide, even though it had nothing to do with me. It is just that "maybe I could have done something, said something and things would have been different". Though it is very easy to be smart in hindsight.

But seeing all the death just makes me want to be alive more than ever.
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10-21-13 12:02 AM
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I think after a certain age, there comes a point of just prolonging the inevitable. You see old people who can hardly move, in horrible pain, or their brains have deteriorated. Not just old people either, people who have terminal illnesses in insufferable conditions.

This is why I think assisted suicide should be available, I think that would give the family a proper situation to say goodbye in person(there's a good frontline documentary about assisted suicide that I think everyone should see). I also think that if it was more openly dealt with, people might take a bit more time to think about whether or not they should end their own life.

I watched my grandmother go through a horrific battle with pancreatic cancer this past year, which I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. She died after months of pain, If I were to ever be in that situation, I've already decided that I'm going to just "nip it in the bud"

Your body is just about the only thing you really own in this world, and you should have the power to do whatever you want with it.
I think after a certain age, there comes a point of just prolonging the inevitable. You see old people who can hardly move, in horrible pain, or their brains have deteriorated. Not just old people either, people who have terminal illnesses in insufferable conditions.

This is why I think assisted suicide should be available, I think that would give the family a proper situation to say goodbye in person(there's a good frontline documentary about assisted suicide that I think everyone should see). I also think that if it was more openly dealt with, people might take a bit more time to think about whether or not they should end their own life.

I watched my grandmother go through a horrific battle with pancreatic cancer this past year, which I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. She died after months of pain, If I were to ever be in that situation, I've already decided that I'm going to just "nip it in the bud"

Your body is just about the only thing you really own in this world, and you should have the power to do whatever you want with it.
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10-23-13 11:02 PM
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I do have to admit that earlier in my life, I felt like they wasn't anywhere else I could turn and only think the only way out it to take my own life, but then, when I got older, I was thinking that could make things even worse for not just yourself, but to also your family and friends can be affect with this as well, and a lot of people don't really want you to take your own life, if your friends and family doesn't like you, physically, but mentally they love you more than anything. so to my Point of View, you shouldn't really take your own life, it's not worth it.
I do have to admit that earlier in my life, I felt like they wasn't anywhere else I could turn and only think the only way out it to take my own life, but then, when I got older, I was thinking that could make things even worse for not just yourself, but to also your family and friends can be affect with this as well, and a lot of people don't really want you to take your own life, if your friends and family doesn't like you, physically, but mentally they love you more than anything. so to my Point of View, you shouldn't really take your own life, it's not worth it.
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Well suicide is straight up not right .  No matter what reason there is to want to take your life .... you can move on from it . Life is a gift that many of the deceased ( if they could wish ) wish they had . It would be rather foolish to want to take away such a wonderful gift as life . Especially if you are the one taking it away from your self . Everyone is going to die in their own time ... why rush ? 
Well suicide is straight up not right .  No matter what reason there is to want to take your life .... you can move on from it . Life is a gift that many of the deceased ( if they could wish ) wish they had . It would be rather foolish to want to take away such a wonderful gift as life . Especially if you are the one taking it away from your self . Everyone is going to die in their own time ... why rush ? 
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Suicide is illogical. It is never reasonable to choose death. Life sucks? It always sucks. Still doesn't mean that death is the better option.

With life is opportunity for every possible good thing. Death leads to nothing.

The common argument is that death is a "release". The cure is worse than the disease. To live with pain is better than death. Death is nothingness and cannot be changed. A painful life is full of opportunity to for joy.

The elderly are not an exception. They will continue to age and health will continue to fail, but the pain experienced does not make a meaningful existence impossible. Many elderly have lots of joy toward the end of their lives, even with pain, and even if they are not happy now, life is always full of opportunity for change.
Suicide is illogical. It is never reasonable to choose death. Life sucks? It always sucks. Still doesn't mean that death is the better option.

With life is opportunity for every possible good thing. Death leads to nothing.

The common argument is that death is a "release". The cure is worse than the disease. To live with pain is better than death. Death is nothingness and cannot be changed. A painful life is full of opportunity to for joy.

The elderly are not an exception. They will continue to age and health will continue to fail, but the pain experienced does not make a meaningful existence impossible. Many elderly have lots of joy toward the end of their lives, even with pain, and even if they are not happy now, life is always full of opportunity for change.
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well it depends. if youre talking about how we feel about other people committing suicide, it dosent mater. its not our lives, and how we feel about life has nothing to do with anything.

as for myself, i have no inherent desire to die right now, but when i do, it will be by jumping off a nice tall cliff with a beautiful view of an ocean, forest, or both if possible.
well it depends. if youre talking about how we feel about other people committing suicide, it dosent mater. its not our lives, and how we feel about life has nothing to do with anything.

as for myself, i have no inherent desire to die right now, but when i do, it will be by jumping off a nice tall cliff with a beautiful view of an ocean, forest, or both if possible.
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11-02-13 02:24 PM
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I think that if the person really does feel the need to end their life, then I wouldn't object in any way. I would never truly know what anyone else has gone through; so why should I even attempt to stop them doing what they want? If they were just having small problems though, I'd try to help them in every way possible.
I think that if the person really does feel the need to end their life, then I wouldn't object in any way. I would never truly know what anyone else has gone through; so why should I even attempt to stop them doing what they want? If they were just having small problems though, I'd try to help them in every way possible.
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I am also agnostic, and I don't think there is anything waiting for someone after death either. I don't claim to know this for sure or mean an insult to anyone who believes otherwise. Also, if some sort of solid evidence proves otherwise, my thoughts on it might change. As far as suicide goes, I believe that in some cases it may be appropriate (EG You will be tortured for information and killed afterwards, you are injured and you know you will bleed out and you want to end your own misery, etc.), but in most cases it occurs because someone who needed mental help didn't get any, or someone thinks they can't go on living due to some horrible event in their lives. I think that suicide in those cases could be avoided. If people can recognize abnormal behavior in someone and report it, then those people could get help and learn that they do still have something to live for. In my opinion it just isn't worth it.
I am also agnostic, and I don't think there is anything waiting for someone after death either. I don't claim to know this for sure or mean an insult to anyone who believes otherwise. Also, if some sort of solid evidence proves otherwise, my thoughts on it might change. As far as suicide goes, I believe that in some cases it may be appropriate (EG You will be tortured for information and killed afterwards, you are injured and you know you will bleed out and you want to end your own misery, etc.), but in most cases it occurs because someone who needed mental help didn't get any, or someone thinks they can't go on living due to some horrible event in their lives. I think that suicide in those cases could be avoided. If people can recognize abnormal behavior in someone and report it, then those people could get help and learn that they do still have something to live for. In my opinion it just isn't worth it.
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