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Aliens or imagination

 
are they real or a figment of our imagination?
aliens are real
 
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just in our mind
 
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I was just wondering but which do you think is true. I think they don't exist.
I was just wondering but which do you think is true. I think they don't exist.
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They don't exist in your realm for a good reason, our realm is minipulated by cultures bound on corporate media agendas where they laugh and make jokes of surreal phenomenons. While people can deny the existence there is one thing you can't deny and that is the shadow government controls the outcome of their perceived vision that is why it's easy to deny their existence just like Gods existence.

If you think the Battle of LA was a weather balloon or a group of UFO's flying over washington DC in 1952 in this clip are a joke... think again http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTZ7O9cfpPQ

Phil Schneider and William Cooper are two names you should look up both murdered for their knowledge of E.T.s and shadow government.

Many many more people know they exist for fact, government knows for fact, citizens however, are clueless of their surroundings.

Infact, how do you think we came up with laser technology and all this crazy advanced technology out of nowhere? Government is over 30+ years ahead in technology then consumer products... why? Because they are learning it all from reverse engineering from UFO crafts, mixing genetics from one creature to another, in fact you can guarantee our economy is destroyed with some help of tax payers money for funding black projects.

Aliens are real... look back at history at the Egyptians, Myans, and all them, all of them have alien agenda's all over their sculptures. There are several egyptian sculptures and paintings which show aircraft when aircraft did not exist to mankind as well as depict reptilian/alien like creatures.
They don't exist in your realm for a good reason, our realm is minipulated by cultures bound on corporate media agendas where they laugh and make jokes of surreal phenomenons. While people can deny the existence there is one thing you can't deny and that is the shadow government controls the outcome of their perceived vision that is why it's easy to deny their existence just like Gods existence.

If you think the Battle of LA was a weather balloon or a group of UFO's flying over washington DC in 1952 in this clip are a joke... think again http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTZ7O9cfpPQ

Phil Schneider and William Cooper are two names you should look up both murdered for their knowledge of E.T.s and shadow government.

Many many more people know they exist for fact, government knows for fact, citizens however, are clueless of their surroundings.

Infact, how do you think we came up with laser technology and all this crazy advanced technology out of nowhere? Government is over 30+ years ahead in technology then consumer products... why? Because they are learning it all from reverse engineering from UFO crafts, mixing genetics from one creature to another, in fact you can guarantee our economy is destroyed with some help of tax payers money for funding black projects.

Aliens are real... look back at history at the Egyptians, Myans, and all them, all of them have alien agenda's all over their sculptures. There are several egyptian sculptures and paintings which show aircraft when aircraft did not exist to mankind as well as depict reptilian/alien like creatures.
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I tend to agree JS, though I'm not sure why the hell an advanced culture would come to our planet.
Maybe a few crashed scout ships, that would be about the end of it.
I would say that yes, they are real, but might not be Aliens per se rather then people from another dimension (given an infinite number of probabilities anything can happen).
I tend to agree JS, though I'm not sure why the hell an advanced culture would come to our planet.
Maybe a few crashed scout ships, that would be about the end of it.
I would say that yes, they are real, but might not be Aliens per se rather then people from another dimension (given an infinite number of probabilities anything can happen).
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i think that aliens exist, cause what are the odds that in an infinitely large universe that we are the only lifeforms that exist, but i don't believe that they are more technologically advanced

i have other opinions, but i'll save it for later
i think that aliens exist, cause what are the odds that in an infinitely large universe that we are the only lifeforms that exist, but i don't believe that they are more technologically advanced

i have other opinions, but i'll save it for later
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I think they exist. As reaper said, universe is so big that we cant be sure if earth is the only planet with living beings inside.



I think they exist. As reaper said, universe is so big that we cant be sure if earth is the only planet with living beings inside.



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Originally posted by DarkHyren
I tend to agree JS, though I'm not sure why the hell an advanced culture would come to our planet.
Maybe a few crashed scout ships, that would be about the end of it.
I would say that yes, they are real, but might not be Aliens per se rather then people from another dimension (given an infinite number of probabilities anything can happen).


The reason why they are here I can not say because I do not know but I do know they are working side by side with shadow government. I believe that we are giving them what they want and they are giving us what we want (technology and more). As for what we are giving them is unknown, could be cattle & humans or something else. They are an allie with us as it seems but for all we known they are using government to control us. I can't say for sure.

But as Einstein once said the closest way to get from point A to point B isn't in a straight line, it's through a wormhole. When talking about space and advanced civilations you will need to think outside the box on issues because for all we know they are really advanced and the issues they face and the reasons for them are way above our current intellegence and logic. For example, we work for money however they probably don't use money they work for a different reason... see what I'm saying? The way they think and do stuff is logically beyond our development as mankind. We are still prehistoric when it comes to logic, that is why we can easily deny aliens. Think of a galaxy as a handful of seeds and the sun as the mother who gives life to them.

Check this picture out and look at all the galaxies... there is definitly life out there:



Originally posted by DarkHyren
I tend to agree JS, though I'm not sure why the hell an advanced culture would come to our planet.
Maybe a few crashed scout ships, that would be about the end of it.
I would say that yes, they are real, but might not be Aliens per se rather then people from another dimension (given an infinite number of probabilities anything can happen).


The reason why they are here I can not say because I do not know but I do know they are working side by side with shadow government. I believe that we are giving them what they want and they are giving us what we want (technology and more). As for what we are giving them is unknown, could be cattle & humans or something else. They are an allie with us as it seems but for all we known they are using government to control us. I can't say for sure.

But as Einstein once said the closest way to get from point A to point B isn't in a straight line, it's through a wormhole. When talking about space and advanced civilations you will need to think outside the box on issues because for all we know they are really advanced and the issues they face and the reasons for them are way above our current intellegence and logic. For example, we work for money however they probably don't use money they work for a different reason... see what I'm saying? The way they think and do stuff is logically beyond our development as mankind. We are still prehistoric when it comes to logic, that is why we can easily deny aliens. Think of a galaxy as a handful of seeds and the sun as the mother who gives life to them.

Check this picture out and look at all the galaxies... there is definitly life out there:



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I Believe aliens exist... how can they not, in a universe so big? I do not believe that they're some advanced life form with uber technology. I also do not believe we will ever find other life.... at least not in this lifetime.
I Believe aliens exist... how can they not, in a universe so big? I do not believe that they're some advanced life form with uber technology. I also do not believe we will ever find other life.... at least not in this lifetime.
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I think people are on a lot of good drugs.... thus I don't believe Aliens exist.

While something may be huge doesn't mean its more complex, take the specs of the krane computer at NASA and take the brain of a Honey Bee.

The viscosity of the bee is highly different, if the krane breaks down it costs A LOT to fix... If the bee gets hurt, it heals itself. Just because somethings bigger doesn't mean something HAS to exist.... While it may be possible it doesn't make it an absolute.... Just my opinion... I believe the government is testing stuff and people are blowing it up, they make it seem like we have to rely on them and it works if you pay attention haha...
I think people are on a lot of good drugs.... thus I don't believe Aliens exist.

While something may be huge doesn't mean its more complex, take the specs of the krane computer at NASA and take the brain of a Honey Bee.

The viscosity of the bee is highly different, if the krane breaks down it costs A LOT to fix... If the bee gets hurt, it heals itself. Just because somethings bigger doesn't mean something HAS to exist.... While it may be possible it doesn't make it an absolute.... Just my opinion... I believe the government is testing stuff and people are blowing it up, they make it seem like we have to rely on them and it works if you pay attention haha...
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The idea of aliens shouldn't retain to it as drug induced illusions, I mean reality itself is a drug and everything is an illusion. We are living on a floating ball in space for crying out load... that itself is trippy beyond belief but we can't comprehend other life beyond us? It's okay because humans are selfish and they must do what they need to feel powerful and important because we are programming like that.

Earth at one point had no life, then BAM now we got 6 billion people and god knows how many other living entities. Life takes time to evolve and you can guarantee that the universe is growing just as fast as we are.

Why would aliens be more advanced? Simple, they have been around far longer then we have and how they were created gives them a bigger advantage over us, just like how humans have a better advantage over apes and most other animals when it retains to certain skills, however each living entity is unique and has something that the next doesn't have which makes life bind together. We litterly need each other to survive, that could explain why Aliens could be here on earth. Sure we figured out most of the things on Earth but it's silly to deny life beyond us when our protectors have only landed on the moon (as they want you to believe) when in reality they are hiding more then what they are making us swallow each and every day in society.
The idea of aliens shouldn't retain to it as drug induced illusions, I mean reality itself is a drug and everything is an illusion. We are living on a floating ball in space for crying out load... that itself is trippy beyond belief but we can't comprehend other life beyond us? It's okay because humans are selfish and they must do what they need to feel powerful and important because we are programming like that.

Earth at one point had no life, then BAM now we got 6 billion people and god knows how many other living entities. Life takes time to evolve and you can guarantee that the universe is growing just as fast as we are.

Why would aliens be more advanced? Simple, they have been around far longer then we have and how they were created gives them a bigger advantage over us, just like how humans have a better advantage over apes and most other animals when it retains to certain skills, however each living entity is unique and has something that the next doesn't have which makes life bind together. We litterly need each other to survive, that could explain why Aliens could be here on earth. Sure we figured out most of the things on Earth but it's silly to deny life beyond us when our protectors have only landed on the moon (as they want you to believe) when in reality they are hiding more then what they are making us swallow each and every day in society.
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while I don't dispute the chance that there is life on other worlds I don't see why any alien civilization is more advanced than we are.... or why they haven't killed themselves off like we almost have....

I accept that it's possible that life is out there but it doesn't mean they've come here.

I don't believe that technology has come out of nowhere.

It just sounds too much like the rants of a crazy person rather than anything grounded in reality or fact.
while I don't dispute the chance that there is life on other worlds I don't see why any alien civilization is more advanced than we are.... or why they haven't killed themselves off like we almost have....

I accept that it's possible that life is out there but it doesn't mean they've come here.

I don't believe that technology has come out of nowhere.

It just sounds too much like the rants of a crazy person rather than anything grounded in reality or fact.
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To explain further on advanced civilizations take a look at Earth. Some sections of Earth are still in the stone age when it comes to knowledge and technology, then there comes the consumer base technology, a step up from the stone age. But government is at the top of the list with the biggest, baddest, and best technology has to offer to mankind today.

If we were all using the same technology government has in their hands today we would develop and gain a 20+ year advancement from where consumers are currently at. So if we are not in alignment with one another you can bet that other civilizations have an even bigger gap and advantage in advancement because they share it and implement it without putting delays in the way which allows them to become advanced faster, better, and stronger.

While NASA still uses fuel and space suits to propel theirselves into space Aliens have a better way of going about by using anti-matter, advanced propulsion systems and wormholes to bend the very laws of physics and gravity to time travel at light speed. Sound bogus? It shouldn't because all of it is real and backed by some of the greatest minds here on Earth.

But yea, internet was being used way back in the 70's and up until around the year 2000 it was nothing, now look how advanced we have become in a 9 year period. If we were given internet back in the 70's when government created it, just imagine how more advanced we would be now!

So when you withhold knowledge from your own kind, you delay it's progression. That is why aliens are more advanced then we are.
To explain further on advanced civilizations take a look at Earth. Some sections of Earth are still in the stone age when it comes to knowledge and technology, then there comes the consumer base technology, a step up from the stone age. But government is at the top of the list with the biggest, baddest, and best technology has to offer to mankind today.

If we were all using the same technology government has in their hands today we would develop and gain a 20+ year advancement from where consumers are currently at. So if we are not in alignment with one another you can bet that other civilizations have an even bigger gap and advantage in advancement because they share it and implement it without putting delays in the way which allows them to become advanced faster, better, and stronger.

While NASA still uses fuel and space suits to propel theirselves into space Aliens have a better way of going about by using anti-matter, advanced propulsion systems and wormholes to bend the very laws of physics and gravity to time travel at light speed. Sound bogus? It shouldn't because all of it is real and backed by some of the greatest minds here on Earth.

But yea, internet was being used way back in the 70's and up until around the year 2000 it was nothing, now look how advanced we have become in a 9 year period. If we were given internet back in the 70's when government created it, just imagine how more advanced we would be now!

So when you withhold knowledge from your own kind, you delay it's progression. That is why aliens are more advanced then we are.
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..... that's not a very good argument...

how does the way we treat other members of our planet have any bearing on how advanced another civilization on another planet would be? How can you know that aliens don't do the same things? How do you know that these aliens that you believe are visiting our planet aren't the equivalent of "Western" civilization on their planet?

Your argument holds no water as far as I'm concerned.

I'm sure the methods of travel you have mentioned are possible but again, there is no evidence of any of that having occured. You simply speculate that aliens can do any or all of those things.

Sorry.... you really haven't convinced me of anything so far.
..... that's not a very good argument...

how does the way we treat other members of our planet have any bearing on how advanced another civilization on another planet would be? How can you know that aliens don't do the same things? How do you know that these aliens that you believe are visiting our planet aren't the equivalent of "Western" civilization on their planet?

Your argument holds no water as far as I'm concerned.

I'm sure the methods of travel you have mentioned are possible but again, there is no evidence of any of that having occured. You simply speculate that aliens can do any or all of those things.

Sorry.... you really haven't convinced me of anything so far.
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My statement is all logical and makes perfect sense.

Give one kid a book and another kid a computer and tell me there is no real difference in expansion of knowledge when technology is withheld. The whole logic of my statement is that.

And yes there is plenty of evidence to prove that aliens use wormholes and antimatter. Tons of videos and testimonials and eye witness accounts. They can to do 90 degree turns on the split of a dime going thousands of miles and hour. They can go from point A to B in the split of a second, and you can bet that it has everything to do with warping gravity and using wormholes to form a tunnel to produce propulsion at light speed. The 2 go hand in hand which makes space travel possible and better and faster then the way we do it.
My statement is all logical and makes perfect sense.

Give one kid a book and another kid a computer and tell me there is no real difference in expansion of knowledge when technology is withheld. The whole logic of my statement is that.

And yes there is plenty of evidence to prove that aliens use wormholes and antimatter. Tons of videos and testimonials and eye witness accounts. They can to do 90 degree turns on the split of a dime going thousands of miles and hour. They can go from point A to B in the split of a second, and you can bet that it has everything to do with warping gravity and using wormholes to form a tunnel to produce propulsion at light speed. The 2 go hand in hand which makes space travel possible and better and faster then the way we do it.
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all of the theories you have proposed are based on the assumption that aliens have more advanced technology with no evidence to back it up, videos and pictures are subject to scrutiny cause of things such as photoshop, and eyewitness accounts are should be taken with a grain of salt cause a person will usually jump to conclusions without sufficient evidence.

the speed of light is nowhere near fast enough for space travel, the sun is about 92 million miles away and it takes around 8 min. to get to earth, whereas it takes around 5 hours to reach pluto. now our solar system is around the edge of the milky way so if there is life in this galaxy they would have to be extremely close to our system to make a trip within their life times.

i kind of lost track of what i was saying , so i'll try to continue later
all of the theories you have proposed are based on the assumption that aliens have more advanced technology with no evidence to back it up, videos and pictures are subject to scrutiny cause of things such as photoshop, and eyewitness accounts are should be taken with a grain of salt cause a person will usually jump to conclusions without sufficient evidence.

the speed of light is nowhere near fast enough for space travel, the sun is about 92 million miles away and it takes around 8 min. to get to earth, whereas it takes around 5 hours to reach pluto. now our solar system is around the edge of the milky way so if there is life in this galaxy they would have to be extremely close to our system to make a trip within their life times.

i kind of lost track of what i was saying , so i'll try to continue later
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Originally posted by xReaper19x
all of the theories you have proposed are based on the assumption that aliens have more advanced technology with no evidence to back it up, videos and pictures are subject to scrutiny cause of things such as photoshop, and eyewitness accounts are should be taken with a grain of salt cause a person will usually jump to conclusions without sufficient evidence.

the speed of light is nowhere near fast enough for space travel, the sun is about 92 million miles away and it takes around 8 min. to get to earth, whereas it takes around 5 hours to reach pluto. now our solar system is around the edge of the milky way so if there is life in this galaxy they would have to be extremely close to our system to make a trip within their life times.

i kind of lost track of what i was saying , so i'll try to continue later


If aliens and their craft wern't advanced they would be stopping by a Conaco or 7-11 to fuel up and that is not the case. What makes them advanced is the ability to cloak and move in any direction at any speed and turn, hover, and burst in light speed in the split of an eye. Light speed aides in space travel but wormholes are a major key in it because it bends point a to point b like a folded piece of paper making it much shorter then what it appears to be.
Originally posted by xReaper19x
all of the theories you have proposed are based on the assumption that aliens have more advanced technology with no evidence to back it up, videos and pictures are subject to scrutiny cause of things such as photoshop, and eyewitness accounts are should be taken with a grain of salt cause a person will usually jump to conclusions without sufficient evidence.

the speed of light is nowhere near fast enough for space travel, the sun is about 92 million miles away and it takes around 8 min. to get to earth, whereas it takes around 5 hours to reach pluto. now our solar system is around the edge of the milky way so if there is life in this galaxy they would have to be extremely close to our system to make a trip within their life times.

i kind of lost track of what i was saying , so i'll try to continue later


If aliens and their craft wern't advanced they would be stopping by a Conaco or 7-11 to fuel up and that is not the case. What makes them advanced is the ability to cloak and move in any direction at any speed and turn, hover, and burst in light speed in the split of an eye. Light speed aides in space travel but wormholes are a major key in it because it bends point a to point b like a folded piece of paper making it much shorter then what it appears to be.
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This is a very hard topic to get anywhere on. My belief is that aliens do exist, but the people that know about them for a fact keep the truth to themselves. Lets take the government for example. Why would they want to let that sort of wonderful secret fall into someone elses hands. Believe it or not the world is always at war with eachother. the beings could posibly have some information that can be used to stay one step ahead of the other guys right?? Say the US is the only one that knows and works with "aliens". Don't want that secret to get to anyone else. Invert that to say Iran or some other country knows the only truth, they wouldn't want us to get our hands on that would they? What would anyone of you do if today someone came out and announced that aliens exist and brought one out for proof. Then they annouced that there are a numerous amount of these other worldly beings living amongst us. Uh, first reaction for 99% of the population would totaly freak out. It would come as a shock to me, and anyone that says they wouln't be afraid in any sort of way is in fact the biggest coward of them all. Lets look at this in another scenario. You are out in say the middle of the ocean and you have sharks that are swarming you ready to take the fist bite of you. Are you gonna be scared....damn straight you would. NO different that aliens...it is a new thing that nobody is used to. Everyone in a sense have a fear of the unknown, and aliens from another world would be the ultimate unknown.
This is a very hard topic to get anywhere on. My belief is that aliens do exist, but the people that know about them for a fact keep the truth to themselves. Lets take the government for example. Why would they want to let that sort of wonderful secret fall into someone elses hands. Believe it or not the world is always at war with eachother. the beings could posibly have some information that can be used to stay one step ahead of the other guys right?? Say the US is the only one that knows and works with "aliens". Don't want that secret to get to anyone else. Invert that to say Iran or some other country knows the only truth, they wouldn't want us to get our hands on that would they? What would anyone of you do if today someone came out and announced that aliens exist and brought one out for proof. Then they annouced that there are a numerous amount of these other worldly beings living amongst us. Uh, first reaction for 99% of the population would totaly freak out. It would come as a shock to me, and anyone that says they wouln't be afraid in any sort of way is in fact the biggest coward of them all. Lets look at this in another scenario. You are out in say the middle of the ocean and you have sharks that are swarming you ready to take the fist bite of you. Are you gonna be scared....damn straight you would. NO different that aliens...it is a new thing that nobody is used to. Everyone in a sense have a fear of the unknown, and aliens from another world would be the ultimate unknown.
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I think aliens do exist.

If life developed on Earth, there could be millions of Earth-Like planets out there, or even a completely different ecosystem where they breath methane or something.

Who knows?

What interests me, to an extent of course, are Crop Circles.
Where do they come from? Is it really just a prank, or messages from above? o.0

I think aliens do exist.

If life developed on Earth, there could be millions of Earth-Like planets out there, or even a completely different ecosystem where they breath methane or something.

Who knows?

What interests me, to an extent of course, are Crop Circles.
Where do they come from? Is it really just a prank, or messages from above? o.0

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I don't know what to think about all of this. While I do believe that there is other intelligent life out there, I don't know what to think about all of these UFO sightings and what not. Though the 1952 footage looks convincing, there are probably good explanations for the lights. I mean, it could've been aircrafts emitting light around them that then jammed the radars and turned off the lights to appear to have vanished (which is currently what I think). I doubt that an alien society has visited Earth
I don't know what to think about all of this. While I do believe that there is other intelligent life out there, I don't know what to think about all of these UFO sightings and what not. Though the 1952 footage looks convincing, there are probably good explanations for the lights. I mean, it could've been aircrafts emitting light around them that then jammed the radars and turned off the lights to appear to have vanished (which is currently what I think). I doubt that an alien society has visited Earth
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Here is another theory that I have thought up. It may have been thought up by someone before but, here it is. What if the Earth was the on habitable place in the universe. We wont start an argument about this so just use an open mind. Earth is the only habitable place but there are different dimensions of the existance of the Earthe. Or parallel universes or whatever. Maybe if the aliens are here, they just know how to travel through these different dimensions. Interesting, no??
Here is another theory that I have thought up. It may have been thought up by someone before but, here it is. What if the Earth was the on habitable place in the universe. We wont start an argument about this so just use an open mind. Earth is the only habitable place but there are different dimensions of the existance of the Earthe. Or parallel universes or whatever. Maybe if the aliens are here, they just know how to travel through these different dimensions. Interesting, no??
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But what are the chances that only one inhabitable planet formed? Like Neyro said, "there could be millions of Earth-Like planets out there"
But what are the chances that only one inhabitable planet formed? Like Neyro said, "there could be millions of Earth-Like planets out there"
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