DocRetro :

As for somebody who is a an aromantic asexual, I think you got a lot of good points there. Even though you are supposedly "out of the loop", I think you pretty much got it what its like in many ways I think. And its always good to have an outside opinnion,eh?

ant123ant : Well put. I do agree. Thanks for the input.

DocRetro : Your input is definitely welcome and appreciated. And as I hope I made clear in the opening post, this is a question for opinions, so there really is no right or wrong thing to say here (assuming answers abide by vizzed forum rules). All views are welcome, whether they agree with mine or not. Thanks for taking time to share your thoughts.

Personally, me and my guy don't kiss on the lips. We will snuggle and cuddle and play video games, but not make out or have sex (at least not yet). We are waiting for marriage. At this point in time we are engaged and love spending time together whether it is romantic or just goofing off as friends. We want to wait because we are each others first romance. I don't think every couple needs to do this but for us it works out well. It all is based on how comfortable you are with your significant other and how you express your love. For example, instead of making out, my guy and I will caress each others cheeks with soft kisses.  

I think it's entirely subjective and personal.
I personally stand for purity until marriage & that is all I will ever believe is "right" but I won't ever tell someone else how to live their life because I can't tell someone to believe what I do. 
I think it's a...good idea? or belief to live by though. 

First off, it's don't believe that kissing is simply a tame version of sex. Kissing isn't impure, but an expression of love.

That being said, I think that it's something special that should only be done between people who have something special. I think it's appropriate that people wait to be in a very serious relationship, or perhaps engaged, before they do lock lips. The super romantic scenes in movies when two people finally kiss I think is fine, though steamy make out sessions are a little too common.

Making out is far too common among teens as  well. I can only imagine what happens at dances and other parties. Constant making out just for the heck of it. I think it's just stupid and like you said Eirinn, impure. It takes the magic out of it.

Sex on the other hand, I believe should be only between married people. But people who believe it's simply a pleasurable experience and do it as much as they can.... from their point of view, make sense. I think that's dirty and impure/unattractive though.

I don't think kissing is a "have-to-do" kind of thing; rather, it's a "want-to-do" sort of thing. I think exhibiting certain expressions of love is something between those within the relationship. There may be those who want to kiss to show their attraction/affection to one another, rather than hold hands. Any sexual act (done with the consent of all parties or else that would be sexual assault) should be between those within the relationship, and those judging on the outside should just keep their values to themselves. There are others who show their attraction/affection for one another in different ways.

I personally think this value of "purity" is just another way some may use to view themselves as superior or higher than those who engage in "impure" acts of affection/attraction. A value that one may hold higher than others may not hold true for another individual. We're all different, with vastly different value sets - it's important to respect each individual's system. 

I'll admit purity is not for everyone, myself included but I do think sex should be kept special for when you're in a relationship, you see people going out to get lucky on a whim with people you don't know anything about except the colour of their hair and maybe a name. Get in a relationship and have sex whenever you want

Eirinn : I respect what you just said tremendously, and found the post actually uplifting. Personally, I never plan on making out with a girl, even after marriage. It is purely a lustful act, and is meant to be sexual, in contrast to just kissing. But I never hold television or any media accountable for portraying love in anyway. If love was according to what we see on television, we'd all be nothing but each others sex toys, and every person would lack entirely in value.
Television shows no preference in women (speaking as male), and just shows any damsel in distress as a disposable object for the lead. There is no love, no care for the girl, just wanting any girl, and mainly her body. 

I don't know about never kissing until marriage, however. Granted, I don't plan on dating a whole lot, I'd prefer to make any relationship I'm in to last as much as long as possible, so it really isn't like I'm kissing any one left and right. I'd prefer to be with the right girl at the right time, though. 
Making out, however, I don't find synonymous with kissing, and I really have no need to shove my tongue into some girl's mouth and hers in mine, I don't find that romantic or anything, It's just lustful and dirty. 

I agree we shouldn't make out with everyone we meet it should be only to one when you do it with more than one person it's just a bit well wrong.

Sludgehead : So if you don't think you'll make out after marriage... how about sex? Isn't that "dirty" too? Is do you think it's ok because it's for reproduction?

Light Knight : The difference is that Making out is purely lustful, sex in itself is not. Sex is natural and a loving act, and is not perverse, where as making out is for nothing but sexual pleasure, and is dirty in and of itself. I don't want to see my wife as something lustful or sensual, I'd respect her and her sexuality. Sex is not "dirty" whatsoever if between two respecting lovers, and not for the sake of pleasure and getting off on one another. Make sense?

Purity. Quite the topic, you see I have myself kissed a boy, but did it affect my purity? No, I don't think so anyway. Kissing for me does not ruin ones purity, however when it comes to more sexual affairs then that in itself has an effect on ones purity. Sex is meant to mean something and should not be given out at any possible moment, it's what makes someone pure in itself. I hate the portrayal of women in certain TV programs as many and feisty women who have an encounter of lust everyday. Where I'm going with here is that lustful sex is what ruins ones purity, if sexual intercourse happens for a meaningful reason then I wouldn't necessary say it's the end of ones purity.

goofygoober12 : I apologize for replying so late to you, but I do want to apologize if I came across as saying I was better than anyone else. As I have had to say several times already, I don't mean someone else is "dirty" because they do these things prior to marriage, I just found use of the word "Purity" more comfortable than saying "premarital sex". I respect you and your opinion.

Lone Monolith : Precisely my point. It isn't until the lust comes in that sex represents anything perverse.

Well I don't really care if my spouse is a virgin or not when I bed her, to me purity isn't anything major or something one should sweat over keeping.Many people say be pure and save your self for marriage because it will be more special, well in my opinion if  you engage in sexual activities  before you are married it gives you more experience when you bed your intended lover(spouse) that you want to marry after all how can satisfy your intended lovers sexually needs if you never had sex before and besides when you have sexual encounters early there is room for you to make mistakes and perfect your form for your future spouse.

idk I think that save ing my self sexually is more important than kissing

I guess I can give you an answer from a non-denominational, pansexual P.O.V.

I, myself, don't like the word "purity" or "virginity." To me, those words carry with it the implication that if you have sex, you're somehow "impure" or "dirty." I know that's not what YOU see it as, but that's how society treats it.

That being said, I think that if you want to wait till marriage then that is absolutely wonderful. There is no reason you shouldn't do so. However, I also don't think there is any reason TO wait till marriage. For you, the first time making love symbolizes something special, and that's awesome. For others, it just doesn't. It's just a really bad and messy sexual encounter. These same people most likely just view sex as something that is fun and they don't really see it as some kind of special thing. Sadly, it's people (particularly women) like these who are viewed as "s***s" for their views.

Then there are people like me, who view it as something I wouldn't just do with anybody, but it's waaay too much fun to wait till marriage to experience it. My "virginity" wasn't what I cared about. I cared about only having sexual moments with a man/woman I cared for. The state of my hymen didn't matter to me.

I hope that made sense.

Oh and I think it's amazing you're so dedicated to waiting. Not many people have that much self control, so you're awesome.