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Ocarina of Time vs Skyward Sword

 

09-30-12 08:49 PM
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ocarina of time is the best zelda game that nintendo has ever made and will make in a long time
ocarina of time is the best zelda game that nintendo has ever made and will make in a long time
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As a musician, I found it interesting that you assumed using the retrograde of Zelda's Lullaby for the Ballad of the Goddess had to be either laziness on the part of the game makers or extreme forethought. This is actually a really common technique when writing variations on a theme and can be a really cool way to tie different movements or works together, which I think is what is going on with the Zelda franchise. Most melodies actually work fairly well backwards as well as forwards, so when they were creating the epic prequel to the best video game ever made it made sense to try and tie the games together with a little musical wink. I love that they decided to do this and don't think it's unoriginal at all, but more instead a cool way to tie the game together that only us nerds are going to care about.
As a musician, I found it interesting that you assumed using the retrograde of Zelda's Lullaby for the Ballad of the Goddess had to be either laziness on the part of the game makers or extreme forethought. This is actually a really common technique when writing variations on a theme and can be a really cool way to tie different movements or works together, which I think is what is going on with the Zelda franchise. Most melodies actually work fairly well backwards as well as forwards, so when they were creating the epic prequel to the best video game ever made it made sense to try and tie the games together with a little musical wink. I love that they decided to do this and don't think it's unoriginal at all, but more instead a cool way to tie the game together that only us nerds are going to care about.
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Skyward Sword has good graphics, but no Ganondorf...
Skyward Sword has good graphics, but no Ganondorf...
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Darkpower508 : Well I kinda sped through it so sorry, I thought the game was the worst 3d Zelda game because:

Fi talks literally 5x as much as navi

The game  makes you read even more text each time you pick up a new treasure each time you turn the system on

Drowsing ruined the point of finding anything, when someone droped something of Skyloft and asked you to get it
     it was like they were saying " that's ok link you can just use your drowsing which makes it way to easy LOL"     
     thus making it a pointless fetch quest.

The graphic style was beautiful but humans and pretty much every animated object looks cartooney and kinda stupid   
     (except Zelda and Link).

The Shield bash kinda made combat to easy, it should have made your shield take even more damage.

I liked all of the improvements but it made to many mistakes as well to be better than Ocarina of Time
Darkpower508 : Well I kinda sped through it so sorry, I thought the game was the worst 3d Zelda game because:

Fi talks literally 5x as much as navi

The game  makes you read even more text each time you pick up a new treasure each time you turn the system on

Drowsing ruined the point of finding anything, when someone droped something of Skyloft and asked you to get it
     it was like they were saying " that's ok link you can just use your drowsing which makes it way to easy LOL"     
     thus making it a pointless fetch quest.

The graphic style was beautiful but humans and pretty much every animated object looks cartooney and kinda stupid   
     (except Zelda and Link).

The Shield bash kinda made combat to easy, it should have made your shield take even more damage.

I liked all of the improvements but it made to many mistakes as well to be better than Ocarina of Time
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Sword legion : I do agree the dowsing ability took the fun out of finding things, and I can kinda see where you are coming from with the other parts.

But in all honesty, the shield was quite clever, as it encouraged you to use your shield as a weapon, one which threw the enemy off guard and allowed you to attack it. It was balanced, because the shield would break, and if you used it ALL the time you wouldn't have a shield, unless if you brought another one. And besides, there was still the aspect of timing. I would agree it made it easier, but not too easy to the point that it wasn't a challenge.

The graphics with cartoony people added to its charm, but I suppose that's a matter of art preference. As for the mistakes it might have made, I hardly noticed. The general feel of the game (for me anyway) was great, and natural feeling. You gotta give it credit for stuff like the Silent Realms. That was amazing and you couldn't use Dowsing.
Sword legion : I do agree the dowsing ability took the fun out of finding things, and I can kinda see where you are coming from with the other parts.

But in all honesty, the shield was quite clever, as it encouraged you to use your shield as a weapon, one which threw the enemy off guard and allowed you to attack it. It was balanced, because the shield would break, and if you used it ALL the time you wouldn't have a shield, unless if you brought another one. And besides, there was still the aspect of timing. I would agree it made it easier, but not too easy to the point that it wasn't a challenge.

The graphics with cartoony people added to its charm, but I suppose that's a matter of art preference. As for the mistakes it might have made, I hardly noticed. The general feel of the game (for me anyway) was great, and natural feeling. You gotta give it credit for stuff like the Silent Realms. That was amazing and you couldn't use Dowsing.
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Darkpower508 : Yes, I did very much like the shield bash although  I think in all 3D Zelda games (except Twilight Princess) the 
shield is a little to powerful, in fighting games you are never safe behind a shield, the enemy can use a grab attack of some sort to get by it.
I did like the graphics (Faron was beautiful) but I can't stand how goofey some characters look. bokoblins also look wrong in this game.
The silent realms were very well done< the atmosphere was complimented greatly by the art style, and I really liked it. 
Using a shield bash wan't cause your shield to lose health.

My main complaint is Fi. She just won't be quite.

you are correct on that whether you like the graphics or not depends on preference.
By the way, you wrote the thread out well, and I am impressed even though I disagree with you.
You presented your argument well, using facts and not many opinions.
Darkpower508 : Yes, I did very much like the shield bash although  I think in all 3D Zelda games (except Twilight Princess) the 
shield is a little to powerful, in fighting games you are never safe behind a shield, the enemy can use a grab attack of some sort to get by it.
I did like the graphics (Faron was beautiful) but I can't stand how goofey some characters look. bokoblins also look wrong in this game.
The silent realms were very well done< the atmosphere was complimented greatly by the art style, and I really liked it. 
Using a shield bash wan't cause your shield to lose health.

My main complaint is Fi. She just won't be quite.

you are correct on that whether you like the graphics or not depends on preference.
By the way, you wrote the thread out well, and I am impressed even though I disagree with you.
You presented your argument well, using facts and not many opinions.
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Let me cover a few points.

1)Ocarina of time has been considered the best Zelda game longer
2) ocarina is the most important game in the story, for the hero of time is mentioned in almost every game after it
3)Ocarina is the most important game in the time line (if you haven't read the official Nintendo Zelda time line than you should read it and see what I mean)
4) opinion of many: Ocarina of time completely revolutionized the series.

Skyward Sword
1) explained the new Zelda series (it is said to be the first game, and everyone can just assume that Demise was reincarnated as ganondorf)
2)skyward sword had very good ratings
3) Nintendo can be quoted as saying that they hit the sweet spot with skyward sword. And on the dark/light storyline spectrum (majoras mask being the most dark and wind waker or spirit tracks probably being the most lightest) most of their other games will be like skyward sword.
4) I'm crying right now (majoras mask and twilight princess were awesome)
Let me cover a few points.

1)Ocarina of time has been considered the best Zelda game longer
2) ocarina is the most important game in the story, for the hero of time is mentioned in almost every game after it
3)Ocarina is the most important game in the time line (if you haven't read the official Nintendo Zelda time line than you should read it and see what I mean)
4) opinion of many: Ocarina of time completely revolutionized the series.

Skyward Sword
1) explained the new Zelda series (it is said to be the first game, and everyone can just assume that Demise was reincarnated as ganondorf)
2)skyward sword had very good ratings
3) Nintendo can be quoted as saying that they hit the sweet spot with skyward sword. And on the dark/light storyline spectrum (majoras mask being the most dark and wind waker or spirit tracks probably being the most lightest) most of their other games will be like skyward sword.
4) I'm crying right now (majoras mask and twilight princess were awesome)
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Sword legion : Thank you. I suppose we all have different ways of seeing these games.
Sword legion : Thank you. I suppose we all have different ways of seeing these games.
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You couldnt of made the first post shorter. I like ocorina of time better. Skyward sword was boring to me and I never beat it.
You couldnt of made the first post shorter. I like ocorina of time better. Skyward sword was boring to me and I never beat it.
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ocarina of time is better then skyward sword I just wish navi could have been more helpful especially in ganon's castle
ocarina of time is better then skyward sword I just wish navi could have been more helpful especially in ganon's castle
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ender44 : It looks as though Demise is Gannondorf, and that was one thing I REALLY didn't like about the story. 
 although it is possible that:

     1 Ganon and Gannondorf are different entities

     2 Demise is Ganon

     3 Ocarina of time, Gannondorf sought out Demise's help and the two worked together to obtain the triforce.
          Then when Link beat Gannondorf, Demise (Ganon) emerged at the final battle in Ocarina of Time.

Darkpower508 : You're welcome, I'm glad we could agree to disagree
ender44 : It looks as though Demise is Gannondorf, and that was one thing I REALLY didn't like about the story. 
 although it is possible that:

     1 Ganon and Gannondorf are different entities

     2 Demise is Ganon

     3 Ocarina of time, Gannondorf sought out Demise's help and the two worked together to obtain the triforce.
          Then when Link beat Gannondorf, Demise (Ganon) emerged at the final battle in Ocarina of Time.

Darkpower508 : You're welcome, I'm glad we could agree to disagree
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I always thought Ocarina of Time was better. Other than the Water Temple, It was flawless. Even though it is not my favorite, (My favorite is really Majora's Mask), I still recognize it as a classical pastime and a brilliantly made work of art.
I always thought Ocarina of Time was better. Other than the Water Temple, It was flawless. Even though it is not my favorite, (My favorite is really Majora's Mask), I still recognize it as a classical pastime and a brilliantly made work of art.
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OOC was good, but way to easy to complete fully. Skyward sword had a way better story line and well rounded controls for being a wii motion style game. Also it was a bit more difficult, OOC was a one day walk in the park. Lots of people think OOC was the best but Blegh. Majora's mask had much more to offer and the difficulty was increased tenfold in comparison to OOC. I only say this because the heart pieces took longer to find and it put you on a time schedule. Shoot I would put a link to the past as a favorite before OOC, but i have decimated every zelda game out so far 100%.
OOC was good, but way to easy to complete fully. Skyward sword had a way better story line and well rounded controls for being a wii motion style game. Also it was a bit more difficult, OOC was a one day walk in the park. Lots of people think OOC was the best but Blegh. Majora's mask had much more to offer and the difficulty was increased tenfold in comparison to OOC. I only say this because the heart pieces took longer to find and it put you on a time schedule. Shoot I would put a link to the past as a favorite before OOC, but i have decimated every zelda game out so far 100%.
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Ocarina of Time. Skyward Sword controls can be a pain sometimes. I could play OoT forever because of its simple interface, and the bosses were fun too. Although it was made years ago, it will always remain the best game ever.
Ocarina of Time. Skyward Sword controls can be a pain sometimes. I could play OoT forever because of its simple interface, and the bosses were fun too. Although it was made years ago, it will always remain the best game ever.
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Jordanv78 : Ocarina of time because of the affect on gaming and the awesome music.

Jordanv78 : Ocarina of time because of the affect on gaming and the awesome music.
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ocarina of time is so much better than sky ward sword. Because ocarina of time story was far more better. sky ward sword is to a great game but Zelda ocarina of time is where its at. 
ocarina of time is so much better than sky ward sword. Because ocarina of time story was far more better. sky ward sword is to a great game but Zelda ocarina of time is where its at. 
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I haven't even played Skyward Sword and i know it looks like complete garbage and it's lack of dungeons is total bs. I have amazing memories fighting with my brother who gets to play ocarina. i usually lost due to my being younger and smaller.
I haven't even played Skyward Sword and i know it looks like complete garbage and it's lack of dungeons is total bs. I have amazing memories fighting with my brother who gets to play ocarina. i usually lost due to my being younger and smaller.
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Since I haven't played Skyward Sword or ever seen it, I'm picking Ocarina of Time.
Okay, I'd pick OoT over SS anyday because it brings back memories, and it was my first Zelda game. :3

Since I haven't played Skyward Sword or ever seen it, I'm picking Ocarina of Time.
Okay, I'd pick OoT over SS anyday because it brings back memories, and it was my first Zelda game. :3

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Zelda ocarina of time is by far better. Yeah skyward sword is great and all but ocarina of time is sought to be the best game in video gaming history. So i have to vote Ocarina of time. 
Zelda ocarina of time is by far better. Yeah skyward sword is great and all but ocarina of time is sought to be the best game in video gaming history. So i have to vote Ocarina of time. 
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Skyward sword all the way. Better story. Zelda is actually likable (that means she's kinda hot), and killing Ghirahim feels SO good.
My vote is Skyward Sword, Ocarina was my first Zelda game but there's one thing that holds it back, actually, 3.
1 Hey, Listen!
2 Water Temple
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Skyward sword all the way. Better story. Zelda is actually likable (that means she's kinda hot), and killing Ghirahim feels SO good.
My vote is Skyward Sword, Ocarina was my first Zelda game but there's one thing that holds it back, actually, 3.
1 Hey, Listen!
2 Water Temple
3.Gaepora Kaepora
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