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Deadliest Warrior - Vampires vs Zombies

 

09-15-11 01:03 PM
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All things considered, this episode was fantastically done!  I have no issue with the results and I have no complaints about the methodology.

However, there is one thing I will take issue with and it's a BIGGIE!  I don't think their analysis of the vampire's strength and speed is accurate.  The claim made by Steve Niles was that a vampire would have 6 times the speed and strength of a professional ("elite") athlete.  The athlete they used was a professional body builder who (the type who weighs 300+lbs and is a solid brick of muscle).  With his downward strike force of 1700 pounds, they determined that all vampires would have a strike strength of around 8800 pounds.  I refuse to believe that.  I would believe 6 times the vampire's human strength, which for me would give a strike force of around.... I dunno... I can break poplar in a single strike so maybe a maximum of 2800 lbs. 

I dunno, anyone who watches, feel free to chime in!  Am I the only one who thinks that vampire's strength was grossly overestimated?
All things considered, this episode was fantastically done!  I have no issue with the results and I have no complaints about the methodology.

However, there is one thing I will take issue with and it's a BIGGIE!  I don't think their analysis of the vampire's strength and speed is accurate.  The claim made by Steve Niles was that a vampire would have 6 times the speed and strength of a professional ("elite") athlete.  The athlete they used was a professional body builder who (the type who weighs 300+lbs and is a solid brick of muscle).  With his downward strike force of 1700 pounds, they determined that all vampires would have a strike strength of around 8800 pounds.  I refuse to believe that.  I would believe 6 times the vampire's human strength, which for me would give a strike force of around.... I dunno... I can break poplar in a single strike so maybe a maximum of 2800 lbs. 

I dunno, anyone who watches, feel free to chime in!  Am I the only one who thinks that vampire's strength was grossly overestimated?
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So...this is a tv program?
If theyre both dead how can they kill each other...
So...this is a tv program?
If theyre both dead how can they kill each other...
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So who won? Vampires, right?

I have no idea about the strike strength, but does it really matter? Personally I think vampires would win just due to their intelligence and the fact that they have at least some supernatural strength/stealth. Some people might argue that you can't really physically harm a vampire unless you are using special weapons (stake, cross, holy water, garlic). Last time I checked zombies are not that organized.

They have fully-functional thought, unlike a 'traditional' zombie who is essentially just a dead/infected body in a bloodthirsty blind rage, focused on killing and eating people. Additionally zombies may have rotten/weakened body parts (especially if they are just a reanimated corpse) and generally only have the strength of a regular human. In general I think of them as pawns that even a regular human could kill just by shooting them in the head. For vampires it would be too easy.
So who won? Vampires, right?

I have no idea about the strike strength, but does it really matter? Personally I think vampires would win just due to their intelligence and the fact that they have at least some supernatural strength/stealth. Some people might argue that you can't really physically harm a vampire unless you are using special weapons (stake, cross, holy water, garlic). Last time I checked zombies are not that organized.

They have fully-functional thought, unlike a 'traditional' zombie who is essentially just a dead/infected body in a bloodthirsty blind rage, focused on killing and eating people. Additionally zombies may have rotten/weakened body parts (especially if they are just a reanimated corpse) and generally only have the strength of a regular human. In general I think of them as pawns that even a regular human could kill just by shooting them in the head. For vampires it would be too easy.
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Annette :
Yes vampires won and that's exactly why I thought they would.  The same reason we humans would win!  They also used modern vampires, no garlic and no crosses.  No holy water either but that might be more like... zombies cant bless water.

They didn't use brain munchers either, they used plague-style zombies that just feed on flesh and spread the virus.  The doctor discussed how the decaying of flesh is not necessarily a disadvantage as the fingers would sharpen as a result (decay of course going from the outside in).  They also have superior strength to humans due to the fact that they have no consciousness to speak of.  No neural inhibitors which tell us to stop when something we are doing will damage our body.  Where you might squeeze until your hand hurts, they would squeeze until the goal was accomplished, so to speak.

It was interesting and definitely worth watching.

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Yes vampires won and that's exactly why I thought they would.  The same reason we humans would win!  They also used modern vampires, no garlic and no crosses.  No holy water either but that might be more like... zombies cant bless water.

They didn't use brain munchers either, they used plague-style zombies that just feed on flesh and spread the virus.  The doctor discussed how the decaying of flesh is not necessarily a disadvantage as the fingers would sharpen as a result (decay of course going from the outside in).  They also have superior strength to humans due to the fact that they have no consciousness to speak of.  No neural inhibitors which tell us to stop when something we are doing will damage our body.  Where you might squeeze until your hand hurts, they would squeeze until the goal was accomplished, so to speak.

It was interesting and definitely worth watching.
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Right, I forgot to include that. Zombies do have an advantage in the fact that they cannot feel pain, they just keep going at it until they're decapitated, or a pile of mush on the floor. I want to watch this episode now.
Right, I forgot to include that. Zombies do have an advantage in the fact that they cannot feel pain, they just keep going at it until they're decapitated, or a pile of mush on the floor. I want to watch this episode now.
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zombie's would win cuz its mostly a parasite or infection and the both have a ability to evolve and mutate  
zombie's would win cuz its mostly a parasite or infection and the both have a ability to evolve and mutate  
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on the show vamps won BUT they should have all survived vampires are super smart and wouldnt have let the zombies even get close to them. I agree with the outcome of them winning though
on the show vamps won BUT they should have all survived vampires are super smart and wouldnt have let the zombies even get close to them. I agree with the outcome of them winning though
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I haven't seen the show. was it good?
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It's a pretty good episode.  Not my favorite but, definitely worth seeing.

Exiled_templar :   They made a vague reference to the idea that even though the vampires won, the virus still infected them, through their own biting of the zombies!

hnnn : Absolutely!  Vampires would have had a plan to avoid it all together.  Or failing that, they would have an exit strategy.  There most likely wouldn't be a fight!
It's a pretty good episode.  Not my favorite but, definitely worth seeing.

Exiled_templar :   They made a vague reference to the idea that even though the vampires won, the virus still infected them, through their own biting of the zombies!

hnnn : Absolutely!  Vampires would have had a plan to avoid it all together.  Or failing that, they would have an exit strategy.  There most likely wouldn't be a fight!
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Exiled_templar : That is only if you base it off the Resident Evil version of zombies. As much as I love Resident Evil, it really makes up their own things with the zombie genre. If you go by the normal modern zombies, they don't mutate.
Exiled_templar : That is only if you base it off the Resident Evil version of zombies. As much as I love Resident Evil, it really makes up their own things with the zombie genre. If you go by the normal modern zombies, they don't mutate.
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Don't they have to get a person to represent the to contendents how would they find a vampire and a zombie
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cob : but if vamps and zombies were real the vamps would wipe out the zombies very quicky, protect humans to keep their blood supply safe
cob : but if vamps and zombies were real the vamps would wipe out the zombies very quicky, protect humans to keep their blood supply safe
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I gotta get this episode so I  can watch it and I hope its as good as I expect!!
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hnnn :
I think you're assuming that they would know about it before it was widespread.  Before it made it to the vampires, it would have to be going on a while I think.  Although, I guess it depends on location.  If I saw the first zombie ever, there wouldn't be a second.  I'm sure vampires would think the same way.  But, as I said, there's other circumstances that affect it including the speed at which the zombie virus can mutate to afflict a vampire and the vampires' abilities to take out the zombies in a timely manner.  Remember the zombies have all of day light to spread the disease before a vampire can even take a swing.  They have a fair number of advantages that would have immeasurable real-world impacts

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I think you're assuming that they would know about it before it was widespread.  Before it made it to the vampires, it would have to be going on a while I think.  Although, I guess it depends on location.  If I saw the first zombie ever, there wouldn't be a second.  I'm sure vampires would think the same way.  But, as I said, there's other circumstances that affect it including the speed at which the zombie virus can mutate to afflict a vampire and the vampires' abilities to take out the zombies in a timely manner.  Remember the zombies have all of day light to spread the disease before a vampire can even take a swing.  They have a fair number of advantages that would have immeasurable real-world impacts
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thenumberone :   The zombies would be distracted by the vampires sparkly skin and lose interest in the attack. 

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DarthRambo : um,whats with the picture?
DarthRambo : um,whats with the picture?
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Vampires Vs. Zombies was featured? Sweet, I should watch the show more often, maybe they'll rerun it so I can see it myself
Vampires Vs. Zombies was featured? Sweet, I should watch the show more often, maybe they'll rerun it so I can see it myself
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i now really need to see this episode
i now really need to see this episode
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