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Old Chat Removed - New Chat Room Fundraiser - Please Donate

 

03-11-11 08:40 AM
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I was forced to remove the current chat room due to a few users finding ways to hack it. Now I'm looking into a better chat room. The current one I'm looking into is called 'Flashcoms Chat' which goes for about US $300 (features here and demo here). Since I don't have that much, I'm relying on the vizzed community to donate so that we can get a new chat room. I haven't picked out a chat room quite yet but $300 is the amount I'm aiming to raise for this since that'll be enough for most chat rooms that I'm interested in (or the cost to upgrade the current so that it is more secure).

The sooner you guys donate, the sooner we can get a new chat room up.



Current Chat Room Donations: $0 / $300
$10 - metal572


If you donate, please be sure to respond to this thread letting me know your donation was for the chat room so that I can add you to the list.
I was forced to remove the current chat room due to a few users finding ways to hack it. Now I'm looking into a better chat room. The current one I'm looking into is called 'Flashcoms Chat' which goes for about US $300 (features here and demo here). Since I don't have that much, I'm relying on the vizzed community to donate so that we can get a new chat room. I haven't picked out a chat room quite yet but $300 is the amount I'm aiming to raise for this since that'll be enough for most chat rooms that I'm interested in (or the cost to upgrade the current so that it is more secure).

The sooner you guys donate, the sooner we can get a new chat room up.



Current Chat Room Donations: $0 / $300
$10 - metal572


If you donate, please be sure to respond to this thread letting me know your donation was for the chat room so that I can add you to the list.
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(edited by Davideo7 on 03-19-11 01:25 AM)    

03-11-11 08:44 AM
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Wow, seems like a good room. I'll try really hard to plop in $25.
Wow, seems like a good room. I'll try really hard to plop in $25.
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03-11-11 09:36 AM
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I'll try to talk my mom into letting me donate she said no last time when I wanted maybe cause it's a small amount this time she might let me
I'll try to talk my mom into letting me donate she said no last time when I wanted maybe cause it's a small amount this time she might let me
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03-11-11 10:16 AM
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Darn i wish to donate but my mom say no unless Vizzed has their own code card... like ROBLOX and Aqw and stuff... beside, we are broke T_T
Darn i wish to donate but my mom say no unless Vizzed has their own code card... like ROBLOX and Aqw and stuff... beside, we are broke T_T
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Hey, David, should we use the Cometchat for now? if it isn't up, could you put it back up until we get the new chat?
Hey, David, should we use the Cometchat for now? if it isn't up, could you put it back up until we get the new chat?
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That is really sad that people ruin it for everyone by hacking into it. I would love to donate but I don't have the funds to do so. Hopefully you can get enough.
That is really sad that people ruin it for everyone by hacking into it. I would love to donate but I don't have the funds to do so. Hopefully you can get enough.
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03-11-11 11:10 AM
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Kaiser19 : Not going to use cometchat since there's no ability to mod it, sorry.
Kaiser19 : Not going to use cometchat since there's no ability to mod it, sorry.
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03-11-11 11:16 AM
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Sorry david, but I can't donate, like ever but What about IRC? Maybe we could use that until the new chat is up and ready.
Sorry david, but I can't donate, like ever but What about IRC? Maybe we could use that until the new chat is up and ready.
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dramabethie : Yesss, thanks for the hate.

The fact that I discovered it was very important; as it was easy to do, any person could do it. Thankfully, I had no evil intention. However, there are several people on Vizzed that probably do. How would you like it if you got on Vizzed one day to find out you've been IP banned for "bad chat conduct"?
dramabethie : Yesss, thanks for the hate.

The fact that I discovered it was very important; as it was easy to do, any person could do it. Thankfully, I had no evil intention. However, there are several people on Vizzed that probably do. How would you like it if you got on Vizzed one day to find out you've been IP banned for "bad chat conduct"?
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03-11-11 01:09 PM
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big fat cat : Absolutely no way I'm going with IRC, when we had that as the temp chat room when vizzed was down, it was horrible, absolute chaos.
big fat cat : Absolutely no way I'm going with IRC, when we had that as the temp chat room when vizzed was down, it was horrible, absolute chaos.
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i dont think ill be able to donate but i hope this goes well
i dont think ill be able to donate but i hope this goes well
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I'll try but I'll have to get my parents permission.But should we use an alternatate chatroom while we're trying to get money?
I'll try but I'll have to get my parents permission.But should we use an alternatate chatroom while we're trying to get money?
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Wow that's neat I saw that you can have audio and video that would be cool to bad I don't have money
Wow that's neat I saw that you can have audio and video that would be cool to bad I don't have money
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I'll try my best to get some money to help, but I doubt I could get enough for a substantial amount for it to be of much help =/ plus my parents will probably say no TT-TT But! If I do get some money and such, I'll do all I can to donate Hopefully it won't take too long.
I have a ton of games to sell, so there's a step in the right direction
I'll try my best to get some money to help, but I doubt I could get enough for a substantial amount for it to be of much help =/ plus my parents will probably say no TT-TT But! If I do get some money and such, I'll do all I can to donate Hopefully it won't take too long.
I have a ton of games to sell, so there's a step in the right direction
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03-11-11 02:27 PM
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soldierboi159 : There are no good alternates that are free.

icrazyforpokemon : The audio and video features cost to much extra, doubt I'll get enough for those.

MegaRevolution1 : Even a little bit helps because the way it looks right now, no one cares to donate, you would think the people who use it every day would be glad to donate
soldierboi159 : There are no good alternates that are free.

icrazyforpokemon : The audio and video features cost to much extra, doubt I'll get enough for those.

MegaRevolution1 : Even a little bit helps because the way it looks right now, no one cares to donate, you would think the people who use it every day would be glad to donate
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I'd donate, but I have no way to donate other than sending cash through the mail right now.

(I don't have a paypal or credit card, and gram won't let me use hers)

I was prepared to make a 50 dollar donation if I knew how else I could donate.
I'd donate, but I have no way to donate other than sending cash through the mail right now.

(I don't have a paypal or credit card, and gram won't let me use hers)

I was prepared to make a 50 dollar donation if I knew how else I could donate.
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Hmmm.... I was wondering why chat didn't let me in..

Sorry, but I can't... my mom won't let me, AND I'm broke because she took all of the money I got, plus I only have cash
Hmmm.... I was wondering why chat didn't let me in..

Sorry, but I can't... my mom won't let me, AND I'm broke because she took all of the money I got, plus I only have cash
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I have a few questions...
1) Which type of feature will be used? Pop-up? Embedded? Fullscreen?
2) Will it be text only?
3) Once its added, will Flash still be a requirement? (iPhones the only way I access here, and it doesn't allow flash =/)
I have a few questions...
1) Which type of feature will be used? Pop-up? Embedded? Fullscreen?
2) Will it be text only?
3) Once its added, will Flash still be a requirement? (iPhones the only way I access here, and it doesn't allow flash =/)
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wow i really want to help but i cant sorry
wow i really want to help but i cant sorry
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Looks pretty cool,even though I probably wont be using it really. I look more into it later.
Looks pretty cool,even though I probably wont be using it really. I look more into it later.
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03-11-11 05:35 PM
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The only viable option at this time is to just modify the current chat, what if you waste $300 on a new chat and septembern hacks that as well Then you'll end up taking that one down and looking for a new one.

Not sure you can expect people to pay for that though when someone can easily just chat else where for free. Donating for games is understandable but for a chatroom? I don't think so and I even doubt any of the chatters will donate. I think the chat has got too much attention lately, its a big hassle, and probably distracts people from posting. I'm sure some staff are happy now that they don't have to deal with daily reports in there

Another option is to just use the chat you made. That is just me though, you got more important features that need implementing such as new updated support for the RGR, mac support, multiplayer etc... I'd much rather you use that $300 on one of those.
The only viable option at this time is to just modify the current chat, what if you waste $300 on a new chat and septembern hacks that as well Then you'll end up taking that one down and looking for a new one.

Not sure you can expect people to pay for that though when someone can easily just chat else where for free. Donating for games is understandable but for a chatroom? I don't think so and I even doubt any of the chatters will donate. I think the chat has got too much attention lately, its a big hassle, and probably distracts people from posting. I'm sure some staff are happy now that they don't have to deal with daily reports in there

Another option is to just use the chat you made. That is just me though, you got more important features that need implementing such as new updated support for the RGR, mac support, multiplayer etc... I'd much rather you use that $300 on one of those.
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JigSaw :

I like that idea.

I ventured into chat today, not a fan. At all.

I liked the old chat (pre pro chat rooms)

It may have had no moderation options, but it got us by, and it was fun. I liked prochatrooms a little (till I found out how easy it was to exploit).

Part of the problem with new chat is that it is just bleh, 300 dollars on that? It'd be more cost effective to do IRC It may be hectic, but 300 dollars for a chat is ridiculous.

As for distracting from posting JigSaw, I have this to say, after chatting with some users, the chat room is the entire reason they do post.

I myself post, because I'm tired of chat, and without chat, I probably would stick solely to the RGR. There's not many ways to make people want to post more, since some people just don't like posting (I myself, find it to be tedious after 2000 posts.)

Anyway, I don't know about this new chat, but hey, do what you gotta do.
JigSaw :

I like that idea.

I ventured into chat today, not a fan. At all.

I liked the old chat (pre pro chat rooms)

It may have had no moderation options, but it got us by, and it was fun. I liked prochatrooms a little (till I found out how easy it was to exploit).

Part of the problem with new chat is that it is just bleh, 300 dollars on that? It'd be more cost effective to do IRC It may be hectic, but 300 dollars for a chat is ridiculous.

As for distracting from posting JigSaw, I have this to say, after chatting with some users, the chat room is the entire reason they do post.

I myself post, because I'm tired of chat, and without chat, I probably would stick solely to the RGR. There's not many ways to make people want to post more, since some people just don't like posting (I myself, find it to be tedious after 2000 posts.)

Anyway, I don't know about this new chat, but hey, do what you gotta do.
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I would donate if I could, but I can't afford to send money when I need it for College.
I would donate if I could, but I can't afford to send money when I need it for College.
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I would donate but to be honest, I can't afford to help out. I need to use my money on necessities and things that need to be paid. But I hope it goes well for you.
I would donate but to be honest, I can't afford to help out. I need to use my money on necessities and things that need to be paid. But I hope it goes well for you.
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To be honest, I do not like it at all, I cant donate anyways, but the chat room is not very good anyways. If there is a better chat room, I might be excited but I hate this one.
To be honest, I do not like it at all, I cant donate anyways, but the chat room is not very good anyways. If there is a better chat room, I might be excited but I hate this one.
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New Idea:

The entire reason the chat rooms were easy to exploit was because all you had to know was someone's user number an their username to log on as them. However, what if you made people's usernames replaced with a long line of numbers and letters? For example, instead of the URL being like "id=71642name=the_casualty" (or whatever it is) it could be "id=71642name=iohdksdh836h".

I don't know how easy or hard that would be to implement but it's an idea at least.

If you're really set on getting this chat room, I'll donate $50 or so.
New Idea:

The entire reason the chat rooms were easy to exploit was because all you had to know was someone's user number an their username to log on as them. However, what if you made people's usernames replaced with a long line of numbers and letters? For example, instead of the URL being like "id=71642name=the_casualty" (or whatever it is) it could be "id=71642name=iohdksdh836h".

I don't know how easy or hard that would be to implement but it's an idea at least.

If you're really set on getting this chat room, I'll donate $50 or so.
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MegaRevolution1 : The chat room I'm interested in is flash based. It'll be text only and probably optional popup or full screen.

legacyme3 : No way we're using the old chat room, the lack of mod powers causes to much drama. Did you dive into that chat room I posted? A ton of nice features including the ability to be in more than 1 chat room, private conversations can involve more than 1 person, you can listen to play lists that others have made while chatting or upload your own music to make your own playlist, etc.

the_casualty : That would require a lot of recoding which I currently don't have time for.
MegaRevolution1 : The chat room I'm interested in is flash based. It'll be text only and probably optional popup or full screen.

legacyme3 : No way we're using the old chat room, the lack of mod powers causes to much drama. Did you dive into that chat room I posted? A ton of nice features including the ability to be in more than 1 chat room, private conversations can involve more than 1 person, you can listen to play lists that others have made while chatting or upload your own music to make your own playlist, etc.

the_casualty : That would require a lot of recoding which I currently don't have time for.
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Yeah, I dived into it for a few hours this afternoon. It's not entirely bad, but somethings I did notice.

1. A swear filter NEEDS to be implemented as soon as you acquire it.
2. You need to force users to use their own names. I had someone (pikamander64) come in and made themself legacyme3. I'm not a fan of that.
3. I wouldn't call it needed, because anyone can fix it themself, but you should auto set the noises off, it was annoying as all hell until I found it.
4. Whispers can be seen by EVERYONE in chat, so that's a definite fix.

It seems pretty solid to me, but I don't know if it is worth 300 bucks...

That said, if I can donate, I will, because I do want to have people come online. And I do spend a lot of time on site =P

My biggest qualm with the chat is it's strangeness (at first I didn't really like the other chat that much, so I have a feeling I'd grow to like it), but it feels very different to me.

On the issue of the old chat room though, I'll argue it goes both way and that drama is unavoidable. Just like the lack of power can make people go wild, the presence of power can make people go nuts as well. Personally, I'd reccomend that if we go forward with this chatroom, that we designate a chat mod to watch the other mods in chat. Far too easily the functions can be abused.

Yeah, I dived into it for a few hours this afternoon. It's not entirely bad, but somethings I did notice.

1. A swear filter NEEDS to be implemented as soon as you acquire it.
2. You need to force users to use their own names. I had someone (pikamander64) come in and made themself legacyme3. I'm not a fan of that.
3. I wouldn't call it needed, because anyone can fix it themself, but you should auto set the noises off, it was annoying as all hell until I found it.
4. Whispers can be seen by EVERYONE in chat, so that's a definite fix.

It seems pretty solid to me, but I don't know if it is worth 300 bucks...

That said, if I can donate, I will, because I do want to have people come online. And I do spend a lot of time on site =P

My biggest qualm with the chat is it's strangeness (at first I didn't really like the other chat that much, so I have a feeling I'd grow to like it), but it feels very different to me.

On the issue of the old chat room though, I'll argue it goes both way and that drama is unavoidable. Just like the lack of power can make people go wild, the presence of power can make people go nuts as well. Personally, I'd reccomend that if we go forward with this chatroom, that we designate a chat mod to watch the other mods in chat. Far too easily the functions can be abused.

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I'll see if I can donate, no promises.

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legacyme3 :
1. Yeah it has an optional swear filter
2. I'd of course integrate it with vizzed so that you'd be logged into it with your vizzed board login
3. That's something which can easily be disabled from the admin panel

legacyme3 :
1. Yeah it has an optional swear filter
2. I'd of course integrate it with vizzed so that you'd be logged into it with your vizzed board login
3. That's something which can easily be disabled from the admin panel

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Davideo7 :

Which three is that in response to? the whispering or the sounds? =P

Either way, I'll give it a look once it arrives here, but I'm caustiously optimistic.

Do you want me to see if there's any possible way to hack into it? That's my main concern with any chatroom we get. The last one was too easily hacked, I don't think this one will be a problem, but it doesn't hurt to be safe.
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Which three is that in response to? the whispering or the sounds? =P

Either way, I'll give it a look once it arrives here, but I'm caustiously optimistic.

Do you want me to see if there's any possible way to hack into it? That's my main concern with any chatroom we get. The last one was too easily hacked, I don't think this one will be a problem, but it doesn't hurt to be safe.
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legacyme3 : 1 2 and 3 are reponses to 1 2 and 3. Well you can't really try and hack it on that site since that site allows guests to chat.
legacyme3 : 1 2 and 3 are reponses to 1 2 and 3. Well you can't really try and hack it on that site since that site allows guests to chat.
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I meant when you got it put here, I have a test account I usually test things with.

I think it's fine, I'll still donate if I can find a way to (still no paypal or credit card)
I meant when you got it put here, I have a test account I usually test things with.

I think it's fine, I'll still donate if I can find a way to (still no paypal or credit card)
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I pray the new chat room goes up soon, i wanna donate but i'm broke for now
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well right now i am waiting for some cash to come in possibly soon i am not sure when at this point but when i do i might be able to afford $50.00 or so.don,t pencil me in just yet i will pm you David with the cash when i get it and i also have a Paypal account good luck David.






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well right now i am waiting for some cash to come in possibly soon i am not sure when at this point but when i do i might be able to afford $50.00 or so.don,t pencil me in just yet i will pm you David with the cash when i get it and i also have a Paypal account good luck David.






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Davideo7 : Do you think that we should hyper link (or whatever it's called) the Demo chat to replace the regular chat for now? Or is it best left untouched till its replaced? Just so it keeps the activity flowing for the time being.
Davideo7 : Do you think that we should hyper link (or whatever it's called) the Demo chat to replace the regular chat for now? Or is it best left untouched till its replaced? Just so it keeps the activity flowing for the time being.
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legacyme3 :

I know you're not as active so you probably won't read this, but I'll post anyway. Making a PayPal account is free. Also, you don't actually need a credit card. The American Express gift cards can operate as credit cards on PayPal. I've used them for Ebay. You could just buy one of those cards and connect it (as a credit card) to PayPal to donate.
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I know you're not as active so you probably won't read this, but I'll post anyway. Making a PayPal account is free. Also, you don't actually need a credit card. The American Express gift cards can operate as credit cards on PayPal. I've used them for Ebay. You could just buy one of those cards and connect it (as a credit card) to PayPal to donate.
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BNuge :

Nope, not gonna read it =P

That's actually good to know. I'll look into getting one of those giftcards then, because I've wanted to donate here for a while.
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Nope, not gonna read it =P

That's actually good to know. I'll look into getting one of those giftcards then, because I've wanted to donate here for a while.
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legacyme3 : You can also mail David money. That's an alternative, just ask him about it.

Also, I don't think he'd accept international payments, which is why I can't mail him my money.
legacyme3 : You can also mail David money. That's an alternative, just ask him about it.

Also, I don't think he'd accept international payments, which is why I can't mail him my money.
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MegaRevolution1 : Keeping the chat down and not replacing it with anything until we have a permanent replacement forces people to donate. I don't want users to get comfortable with a temp chat solution.
MegaRevolution1 : Keeping the chat down and not replacing it with anything until we have a permanent replacement forces people to donate. I don't want users to get comfortable with a temp chat solution.
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Is it just me or has posting gone up after taking the chat room down?
Is it just me or has posting gone up after taking the chat room down?
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Davideo7 :

It's very possible, although I can't say.

My posting has been below par the past month, and I haven't had much to really say.

Could you check statistics for the past 2 days, compared to a 2 day spread in the VCs, and a 2 day spread in mid January?

I'm intrigued.
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It's very possible, although I can't say.

My posting has been below par the past month, and I haven't had much to really say.

Could you check statistics for the past 2 days, compared to a 2 day spread in the VCs, and a 2 day spread in mid January?

I'm intrigued.
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Davideo7 :

What I'm seeing is this...

In the 2 days since chat was removed, we are averaging 482.5 posts.
In a VCS month, I took five random days, and avreraged... around 730 posts (being a VCS mind you)
And in a normal month, I used January, 5 random days 457.2 posts.

So while posting is up by about 30 posts (being a non VCS month, it's not been enough yet to notice too big a difference.

I think in a few days, we can revisit it, and see if theres an increase, but because we have a small sample size, it's hard to tell.
Davideo7 :

What I'm seeing is this...

In the 2 days since chat was removed, we are averaging 482.5 posts.
In a VCS month, I took five random days, and avreraged... around 730 posts (being a VCS mind you)
And in a normal month, I used January, 5 random days 457.2 posts.

So while posting is up by about 30 posts (being a non VCS month, it's not been enough yet to notice too big a difference.

I think in a few days, we can revisit it, and see if theres an increase, but because we have a small sample size, it's hard to tell.
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Yeah, it'd make sense that posting has gone up. Now users aren't wasting their time in the chat rooms and instead posting. I think that's a pretty good thing.
Yeah, it'd make sense that posting has gone up. Now users aren't wasting their time in the chat rooms and instead posting. I think that's a pretty good thing.
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the_casualty :

I guess. You take the good with the bad.

While there is no chat to distract from posting, some members have outright abandoned this site in search of a site with chat and a forum for now.
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I guess. You take the good with the bad.

While there is no chat to distract from posting, some members have outright abandoned this site in search of a site with chat and a forum for now.
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legacyme3 : Yeah, well, screw them. If users TRULY were dedicated to this site they wouldn't go somewhere else. I could care less about them.
legacyme3 : Yeah, well, screw them. If users TRULY were dedicated to this site they wouldn't go somewhere else. I could care less about them.
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the_casualty :

I try to remember.

A page view by one of them is the same as a page view by one of us.

Loyalty is nice and all, but still page views are important. I fear without chat, while posts will go up, page views might slip a bit more.
the_casualty :

I try to remember.

A page view by one of them is the same as a page view by one of us.

Loyalty is nice and all, but still page views are important. I fear without chat, while posts will go up, page views might slip a bit more.
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legacyme3 : Considering 80% or more of the users here are here for the Retro Game Room, losing 10 people who spend all day in the chat room isnt that big of a deal.
legacyme3 : Considering 80% or more of the users here are here for the Retro Game Room, losing 10 people who spend all day in the chat room isnt that big of a deal.
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the_casualty :

Not a huge deal no, but every page view counts. I like everyone being happy and having a reason to come here.

Those people in the RGR rarely post either, so it's not like that's doing a ton.

When it boils down to it, I think yes, posting is nice for some people, games ae good for others. Chat is another zone where people come here for. And I think that alone makes it worth looking at, because if you CAN touch every base, why not?

It's like saying, ok, the defense has no chance of catching up to me on this breakaway. Do I go for the easy layup, or slam it home?
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Not a huge deal no, but every page view counts. I like everyone being happy and having a reason to come here.

Those people in the RGR rarely post either, so it's not like that's doing a ton.

When it boils down to it, I think yes, posting is nice for some people, games ae good for others. Chat is another zone where people come here for. And I think that alone makes it worth looking at, because if you CAN touch every base, why not?

It's like saying, ok, the defense has no chance of catching up to me on this breakaway. Do I go for the easy layup, or slam it home?
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The chat room is the only thing on this site that hurts vizzed more than it helps. Posting helps increase search engine rankings because it adds content to the site and also ad revenue goes up because people are viewing ads. People in the Retro Game Room view a lot of pages and therefore that also increases ad revenue and some people in the RGR submit content such as screenshots, comments and reviews to the game pages and some users post and do other things to earn Viz in order to play more games. The chat room doesn't benefit vizzed at all, doesn't increase ad revenue, doesn't give incentive for people to earn Viz and it doesn't add content to the site, all it does is add extra strain on server. I of course want a chat room and will try my hardest to get a new one up as soon as I can but I just wish people didn't become so dependent on it that the only thing they want to do on this site is chat in the chat room.
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The chat room is the only thing on this site that hurts vizzed more than it helps. Posting helps increase search engine rankings because it adds content to the site and also ad revenue goes up because people are viewing ads. People in the Retro Game Room view a lot of pages and therefore that also increases ad revenue and some people in the RGR submit content such as screenshots, comments and reviews to the game pages and some users post and do other things to earn Viz in order to play more games. The chat room doesn't benefit vizzed at all, doesn't increase ad revenue, doesn't give incentive for people to earn Viz and it doesn't add content to the site, all it does is add extra strain on server. I of course want a chat room and will try my hardest to get a new one up as soon as I can but I just wish people didn't become so dependent on it that the only thing they want to do on this site is chat in the chat room.
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As has been reccomended in the past, maybe implement a post requirement to chat? I'd say 30 a month would be adequate for chatters, this way the people get their chat room and you get your pageviews/post count.

I'm just trying to come up with ways the chat room could be beneficial.
As has been reccomended in the past, maybe implement a post requirement to chat? I'd say 30 a month would be adequate for chatters, this way the people get their chat room and you get your pageviews/post count.

I'm just trying to come up with ways the chat room could be beneficial.
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legacyme3 : Something like that could work. Another possibility would be to make the chat room only available at certain times of the day. Another would be to make it so you need to make 1 post per every hour you spend in there, not sure how that would work but it'd be like a parking meter lol.
legacyme3 : Something like that could work. Another possibility would be to make the chat room only available at certain times of the day. Another would be to make it so you need to make 1 post per every hour you spend in there, not sure how that would work but it'd be like a parking meter lol.
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Davideo7 :

I personally find that acceptable, and makes it so it's not just a cancer to the site. Many things could be done to make it beneficial.
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I personally find that acceptable, and makes it so it's not just a cancer to the site. Many things could be done to make it beneficial.
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legacyme3 : Yeah, plus putting some requirements could potentially reduce the amount of problems that go on in there sometimes.
legacyme3 : Yeah, plus putting some requirements could potentially reduce the amount of problems that go on in there sometimes.
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I agree completely, any problem causers would effectively be rooted out from the get go. This also makes for a fair compromise between chatting and posting, allowing this site to reach its full potential.
I agree completely, any problem causers would effectively be rooted out from the get go. This also makes for a fair compromise between chatting and posting, allowing this site to reach its full potential.
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Davideo7 : I am getting use to the new chat room now, but I still cant donate :/ But I have a problem with the chat now, I cant get in...it keeps failing to connect it says this: Connection Failed Error #1. Do you know what happened?
Davideo7 : I am getting use to the new chat room now, but I still cant donate :/ But I have a problem with the chat now, I cant get in...it keeps failing to connect it says this: Connection Failed Error #1. Do you know what happened?
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Lol it seems all the comments here are just people saying how they want to donate but for some reason or another can't, which means they are just sucking up. Also I'm starting to think I may be a little older than 95% of vizz users since all of them are complaining about how their moms won't let them donate. Am I the only one here who actually holds a job?
Lol it seems all the comments here are just people saying how they want to donate but for some reason or another can't, which means they are just sucking up. Also I'm starting to think I may be a little older than 95% of vizz users since all of them are complaining about how their moms won't let them donate. Am I the only one here who actually holds a job?
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ncstatefanrs :

I'm older than the majority of users here. Most members here are in the 13ish area, and are for the most part, just pre adult teenagers.

They don't have a job, and I can't really condemn them, mostly because it's hard for myself to get a job. I'm trying of course, but this economy really sucks.

Anyway, are YOU gonna donate then Mr. I Have a Job? Because if I had steady income I would.
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I'm older than the majority of users here. Most members here are in the 13ish area, and are for the most part, just pre adult teenagers.

They don't have a job, and I can't really condemn them, mostly because it's hard for myself to get a job. I'm trying of course, but this economy really sucks.

Anyway, are YOU gonna donate then Mr. I Have a Job? Because if I had steady income I would.
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ncstatefanrs : *troll alert*

I'm sorry, I can't read the language of "Jerk", please speak English.

If you wanna complain about how you're older then the general user base, then please keep it to your dead blog page or your Twitter.

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I'm sorry, I can't read the language of "Jerk", please speak English.

If you wanna complain about how you're older then the general user base, then please keep it to your dead blog page or your Twitter.

Kthanx.
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legacyme3 : Right now I'm thinking about making it so that it costs 1 Viz per every minute you spend in the chat room.
legacyme3 : Right now I'm thinking about making it so that it costs 1 Viz per every minute you spend in the chat room.
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Davideo7 :

I'd be in favor of that, seeing as every decent post can net you as much as 40 Viz.

If someone makes two of these posts in a day, they get 80 minutes.

It's not so much it'd make us rip our hair out, but not so little that it would go completely unnoticed by the big chatters.
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I'd be in favor of that, seeing as every decent post can net you as much as 40 Viz.

If someone makes two of these posts in a day, they get 80 minutes.

It's not so much it'd make us rip our hair out, but not so little that it would go completely unnoticed by the big chatters.
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legacyme3 : Not to mention you already get 100 Viz per a day for coming to the site (that's assuming a user doesn't use their daily Viz to play some games) so that's basically a free 100 minutes a day and if you want more than that, you gotta post (or find other ways to earn viz).
legacyme3 : Not to mention you already get 100 Viz per a day for coming to the site (that's assuming a user doesn't use their daily Viz to play some games) so that's basically a free 100 minutes a day and if you want more than that, you gotta post (or find other ways to earn viz).
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That is perfectly fair and reasonable, and the only people that will complain are those too lazy to make 1 or 2 posts to get some very easy Viz.

If they are STILL complaining, they can also always donate to the site, and that nets them Viz as well. There is literally hundreds of ways for the every day user to get this to work. Finally, there might be a reason for me to hold on to my viz, and make the chat room useful to the site as well.
That is perfectly fair and reasonable, and the only people that will complain are those too lazy to make 1 or 2 posts to get some very easy Viz.

If they are STILL complaining, they can also always donate to the site, and that nets them Viz as well. There is literally hundreds of ways for the every day user to get this to work. Finally, there might be a reason for me to hold on to my viz, and make the chat room useful to the site as well.
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Over the last few days, Ive realized chat is a luxury, and we have abused it a lot. And a lot of us could handle without chat at all.
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Wow, I could really get used to using a feature like that. Great minds think alike eh?

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Over the last few days, Ive realized chat is a luxury, and we have abused it a lot. And a lot of us could handle without chat at all.
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Wow, I could really get used to using a feature like that. Great minds think alike eh?

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I think a fee of 2 or 3 Viz per minute would be acceptable and may generate even more posts. It's a fair price especially since Viz isn't that hard to come by. It also may get users to spread word of the site, using Viz earned from referred users as an incentive. I've found that's a fairly easy way to earn extra 2-3 hundred Viz a day.

I'm not sure which you prefer to go up more, but it does seem like both would go up.
I think a fee of 2 or 3 Viz per minute would be acceptable and may generate even more posts. It's a fair price especially since Viz isn't that hard to come by. It also may get users to spread word of the site, using Viz earned from referred users as an incentive. I've found that's a fairly easy way to earn extra 2-3 hundred Viz a day.

I'm not sure which you prefer to go up more, but it does seem like both would go up.
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soxfan849 :

I'd say that 1 Viz is more acceptable, simply because after a while it can get racked up, especially for those of us who chat for about 4-5 hours of our day after posting.

After my 30 postsish of the day I chat for 4 hours or so. 4 hours=240 minutes. That's 240 Viz. Which anyone can easily pay.

Now if we go to 2 or 3...

2=480 viz, close to what everyone can pay, but some don't get that much even with posting. You gt 100 a day automatically. 380 Viz from posting is a good deal of posts, seeing as the average user only posts 10 times a day when they do post. 10 posts=around 80-120 Viz. You still have 260 to cover, and most people will beg for Viz in the chats so they can continue talking to their friends.

3= 720 Viz. That is pretty ridiculous, and even I find that obtaining 620 Viz a day through posting can be a trial, seeing as I average about 25 Viz per post right now. To get 620, I would need to make 25 posts at this length. I'm not kidding you, I make longer posts than a lot of users do, so if you have the average user making 10 Viz per post, they will need to make 62 posts a day to chat. 62 is an awful lot, and most people will not consider it at all, and would probably sooner leave site for an alternative that is more reasonable.

This is why 1 is a good starting point. It's easy to pay for everyone. It's not a hinderence. And eventually they will have to make a few posts every now and then to replenish Viz.

Referals are nice if they are legit, too many people cheat though.
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I'd say that 1 Viz is more acceptable, simply because after a while it can get racked up, especially for those of us who chat for about 4-5 hours of our day after posting.

After my 30 postsish of the day I chat for 4 hours or so. 4 hours=240 minutes. That's 240 Viz. Which anyone can easily pay.

Now if we go to 2 or 3...

2=480 viz, close to what everyone can pay, but some don't get that much even with posting. You gt 100 a day automatically. 380 Viz from posting is a good deal of posts, seeing as the average user only posts 10 times a day when they do post. 10 posts=around 80-120 Viz. You still have 260 to cover, and most people will beg for Viz in the chats so they can continue talking to their friends.

3= 720 Viz. That is pretty ridiculous, and even I find that obtaining 620 Viz a day through posting can be a trial, seeing as I average about 25 Viz per post right now. To get 620, I would need to make 25 posts at this length. I'm not kidding you, I make longer posts than a lot of users do, so if you have the average user making 10 Viz per post, they will need to make 62 posts a day to chat. 62 is an awful lot, and most people will not consider it at all, and would probably sooner leave site for an alternative that is more reasonable.

This is why 1 is a good starting point. It's easy to pay for everyone. It's not a hinderence. And eventually they will have to make a few posts every now and then to replenish Viz.

Referals are nice if they are legit, too many people cheat though.
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legacyme3 : Actually hardly anyone ever cheats the referrals, it's got a lot of restrictions and security features.
legacyme3 : Actually hardly anyone ever cheats the referrals, it's got a lot of restrictions and security features.
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Davideo7 :

lol sorry wasn't aware.

I remember having seen a few, and I had assumed that there were many cheating the system that were not caught.
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lol sorry wasn't aware.

I remember having seen a few, and I had assumed that there were many cheating the system that were not caught.
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legacyme3 : I guess that's true. One Viz per minute just seems like a low amount, and I'm not sure how long people generally spend in the chat room. I can see how any higher and it may actually cause more harm than good, however.

Also, I'm not aware of how to cheat the referral system, but I'm guessing it would take more time than it's actually worth. I just made a Youtube video of me playing a game with my link in the description box. It works fairly well.
legacyme3 : I guess that's true. One Viz per minute just seems like a low amount, and I'm not sure how long people generally spend in the chat room. I can see how any higher and it may actually cause more harm than good, however.

Also, I'm not aware of how to cheat the referral system, but I'm guessing it would take more time than it's actually worth. I just made a Youtube video of me playing a game with my link in the description box. It works fairly well.
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Maybe You could make it 2 or 3 post an hour maybe that would make people make more posts and maybe viz
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That looks like an AWESOME chat room, we should get that one, I'll try really hard to donate but my parents don't like it when I use my money =[
That looks like an AWESOME chat room, we should get that one, I'll try really hard to donate but my parents don't like it when I use my money =[
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icrazyforpokemon :

I don't think that is entirely reasonable. See by making the cost Viz related, instead of post related, you make it so you don't NEED to post to be in chat, you could simply donate, which is even more helpful to the site.

If you make it related on posts per hour, what if I just made 40 posts today, and am tired as all hell? Should I be forced to make 2 or 3 more posts in topics I've already been instead of using the vast reserves of Viz I have accumulated?
icrazyforpokemon :

I don't think that is entirely reasonable. See by making the cost Viz related, instead of post related, you make it so you don't NEED to post to be in chat, you could simply donate, which is even more helpful to the site.

If you make it related on posts per hour, what if I just made 40 posts today, and am tired as all hell? Should I be forced to make 2 or 3 more posts in topics I've already been instead of using the vast reserves of Viz I have accumulated?
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I tried the new chat with the Wii, and my only complaint is that the typing bar (whatever it's called) is in the middle of the chat, so it cuts off part of the messages. Otherwise it worked fine. It had no problems in Safari, so my main ways of using chat are pretty much fine.
I tried the new chat with the Wii, and my only complaint is that the typing bar (whatever it's called) is in the middle of the chat, so it cuts off part of the messages. Otherwise it worked fine. It had no problems in Safari, so my main ways of using chat are pretty much fine.
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man i wish i could help but my mom wont let me buy,donate,or whatever until i get an A in math.when i get an A ill donate for sure.
man i wish i could help but my mom wont let me buy,donate,or whatever until i get an A in math.when i get an A ill donate for sure.
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03-15-11 05:53 PM
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Davideo7 : if a gift card from american express would work i would give ya the $100 for it
if it will could u possibly tell me how?
Davideo7 : if a gift card from american express would work i would give ya the $100 for it
if it will could u possibly tell me how?
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zaqmonster : Yeah that would work, you could basically PM me the number of the card as well as any other info about the card. Not only would that help vizzed out and help get us a better chat room, I'd also award you 100,000 Viz for that.
zaqmonster : Yeah that would work, you could basically PM me the number of the card as well as any other info about the card. Not only would that help vizzed out and help get us a better chat room, I'd also award you 100,000 Viz for that.
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The 10 dollars I just donated is for the chatroom. I hope we will be able to raise the money soon.
The 10 dollars I just donated is for the chatroom. I hope we will be able to raise the money soon.
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metal572 : Thanks, added to the list.
metal572 : Thanks, added to the list.
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I'm getting some more money tomorrow, so I'll donate withing the next few days (at least $25).

I don't get why people don't donate to this site that often. I mean, even a little...
I'm getting some more money tomorrow, so I'll donate withing the next few days (at least $25).

I don't get why people don't donate to this site that often. I mean, even a little...
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I might be able to spare $5 of my birthday money. I'm not sure, but I might be able to.
I might be able to spare $5 of my birthday money. I'm not sure, but I might be able to.
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Ya that day when this happend Me and my friend thought it was just took off of ours and I saw everyone elses was gone and then Found out about the hackers. I don't get them that much. Just pathedic in my mind. But If I had alot of money I would donate the full 300 dollars. I just don't have the money right now. Whenever we do get the 300 dollars that chat really does seem like it would be kewl
Ya that day when this happend Me and my friend thought it was just took off of ours and I saw everyone elses was gone and then Found out about the hackers. I don't get them that much. Just pathedic in my mind. But If I had alot of money I would donate the full 300 dollars. I just don't have the money right now. Whenever we do get the 300 dollars that chat really does seem like it would be kewl
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