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Was Sonic Heroes the downfall of Sonic?

 

04-30-10 03:56 PM
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Originally posted by Didowe
I say yes, but to the fans reaction to the game, the fan base were the ones who made it the downfall, not the game itself, besides, many of the people call a game bad because the review says is bad and not many people know how to make their own opinions, this is also another reason for flame wars and arguments on the internet and real life, because one person says "I don't like this" while the other person likes that item, so they end up fighting.


I liked the game though, I like the level design best, rail canyon zone and hang castle zone were really cool, but "Egg fleet" was the best, and coolest level in the entire sonic series.

But I think the newer games had stronger flaws, but I haven't play them yet, so I can't really say so.



That's kind of true I guess. And yeah, Egg Fleet WAS a pretty cool stage. I liked that one a lot haha. But I wish it wasn't exactly like a team and that Metal Sonic would've been more awesome, since for once he was the main antagonist. But Metal Madness/Overlord wasn't exactly what I had in mind...
Originally posted by Didowe
I say yes, but to the fans reaction to the game, the fan base were the ones who made it the downfall, not the game itself, besides, many of the people call a game bad because the review says is bad and not many people know how to make their own opinions, this is also another reason for flame wars and arguments on the internet and real life, because one person says "I don't like this" while the other person likes that item, so they end up fighting.


I liked the game though, I like the level design best, rail canyon zone and hang castle zone were really cool, but "Egg fleet" was the best, and coolest level in the entire sonic series.

But I think the newer games had stronger flaws, but I haven't play them yet, so I can't really say so.



That's kind of true I guess. And yeah, Egg Fleet WAS a pretty cool stage. I liked that one a lot haha. But I wish it wasn't exactly like a team and that Metal Sonic would've been more awesome, since for once he was the main antagonist. But Metal Madness/Overlord wasn't exactly what I had in mind...
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I don't think it was cause I have a friend who played it and said it was actually good but to me I think the downfall of sonic games was sonic unleashed
I don't think it was cause I have a friend who played it and said it was actually good but to me I think the downfall of sonic games was sonic unleashed
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Ya that's what I mean, the night levels were horrible and same with collecting the sun and night maedels. The day levels were good.
Ya that's what I mean, the night levels were horrible and same with collecting the sun and night maedels. The day levels were good.
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I just dont know what sega story writers were smoking to get such a laaaaame story.plus the whole teamwork concept was bull
I just dont know what sega story writers were smoking to get such a laaaaame story.plus the whole teamwork concept was bull
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I think no because it was a good game and fun to play and with all the story's that went on could have opened up to more charactors and even more games and i think it was actually one of the better sonic games
I think no because it was a good game and fun to play and with all the story's that went on could have opened up to more charactors and even more games and i think it was actually one of the better sonic games
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I dont think it was the downfall of Sonic, but the 3D type games certainly contributed to it.
Sonic was always about speed, and in the same type of enviroment as an adventure game it just doesnt seem to work as well as it did in a platform enviroment.
If they wanted Sonic to be an adventure game then they should have made him more like Mario honestly.
That's just my opinion anyway.
I dont think it was the downfall of Sonic, but the 3D type games certainly contributed to it.
Sonic was always about speed, and in the same type of enviroment as an adventure game it just doesnt seem to work as well as it did in a platform enviroment.
If they wanted Sonic to be an adventure game then they should have made him more like Mario honestly.
That's just my opinion anyway.
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I will say it's a good game. I love that you can control 3 insted of just 1 at the time.
I will say it's a good game. I love that you can control 3 insted of just 1 at the time.
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I would say it was after SonicR and Shadow the Hedgehog as these were by far the worst games.
I would say it was after SonicR and Shadow the Hedgehog as these were by far the worst games.
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It wasn't the best game ever or anything but, I definitely liked the game! And it seems like a lot of the people I know did too so... at least with my availability heuristic, the game was not the downfall of Sonic.
It wasn't the best game ever or anything but, I definitely liked the game! And it seems like a lot of the people I know did too so... at least with my availability heuristic, the game was not the downfall of Sonic.
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I don't think so, because I've always really liked Sonic Heroes. I think they started getting bad when Sonic The Hedgehog was released for the PS3 and Xbox 360 in 2006. Then the Sonic franchise went downhill.
I don't think so, because I've always really liked Sonic Heroes. I think they started getting bad when Sonic The Hedgehog was released for the PS3 and Xbox 360 in 2006. Then the Sonic franchise went downhill.
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No, Sonic Heroes was actually a pretty fun game (However, I was disappointed that it didn't have the gameplay like Sonic Adventure 2 Battle) but I honestly think the downfall of Sonic started with Sonic Riders, and then the Secret Rings pretty much sealed the deal of "Sonic is Ruined". But, Sonic Unleashed was a pretty good game (without the Werehog levels, it would have been much better)
No, Sonic Heroes was actually a pretty fun game (However, I was disappointed that it didn't have the gameplay like Sonic Adventure 2 Battle) but I honestly think the downfall of Sonic started with Sonic Riders, and then the Secret Rings pretty much sealed the deal of "Sonic is Ruined". But, Sonic Unleashed was a pretty good game (without the Werehog levels, it would have been much better)
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Sonic Adventure 2 was a masterpiece. I'm probably one of only about 8 people that think Sonic moving to 3D was a good idea. Then Sonic heroes came out and there were some glaring flaws. I could get past the childishness and the cheesiness of the dialogue/story (to be fair, it was meant to be approachable by casual players and those new to the Sonic franchise), but the controls were glitchy and the camera was a pain to fight with. But was it the downfall of Sonic? It very likely was. This was Sega's first attempt at a multi-platform game, which probably explains all the glitches.

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Sonic Adventure 2 was a masterpiece. I'm probably one of only about 8 people that think Sonic moving to 3D was a good idea. Then Sonic heroes came out and there were some glaring flaws. I could get past the childishness and the cheesiness of the dialogue/story (to be fair, it was meant to be approachable by casual players and those new to the Sonic franchise), but the controls were glitchy and the camera was a pain to fight with. But was it the downfall of Sonic? It very likely was. This was Sega's first attempt at a multi-platform game, which probably explains all the glitches.

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Yeah, Sonic Heroes was the downfall. It's still okay, I don't think it's really that bad, it's just not good as the rest, and also that after this, the series got worse and worse. I still think Sonic 06 was the peak, however.. I hope that Sonic 4 brings the series back to it's original glory.
Yeah, Sonic Heroes was the downfall. It's still okay, I don't think it's really that bad, it's just not good as the rest, and also that after this, the series got worse and worse. I still think Sonic 06 was the peak, however.. I hope that Sonic 4 brings the series back to it's original glory.
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I don't think Sonic Heroes was the downfall of Sonic the Hedgehog. It had a good concept, good story, and good gameplay. The only things I didn't like were a few glitches and in the final story, Sonic turns into Super Sonic while Tails and Knuckles are just surrounded by a big ball of energy.
I don't think Sonic Heroes was the downfall of Sonic the Hedgehog. It had a good concept, good story, and good gameplay. The only things I didn't like were a few glitches and in the final story, Sonic turns into Super Sonic while Tails and Knuckles are just surrounded by a big ball of energy.
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I never played that Sonic game. Was it horrible?
do they have it here on Viz?... is it worth playing? As a matter of fact...I'm about to play Sonic now...
I never played that Sonic game. Was it horrible?
do they have it here on Viz?... is it worth playing? As a matter of fact...I'm about to play Sonic now...
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They don't have it on vizzed because it's a gamecube game. Though it had it's flaws, it was still a good game and worth checking out.
They don't have it on vizzed because it's a gamecube game. Though it had it's flaws, it was still a good game and worth checking out.
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I wouldn't say that it was the downfall of Sonic, as I found that game quite enjoyable, but it wasn't long after the release of sonic heroes that their games started to take a turn for the worse.
I wouldn't say that it was the downfall of Sonic, as I found that game quite enjoyable, but it wasn't long after the release of sonic heroes that their games started to take a turn for the worse.
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No, actually it was Sonic 2D* Blast.


*was called 3D, but it wasn't 3D. Even though it looked 3D it's just 2D with a bad angle.
No, actually it was Sonic 2D* Blast.


*was called 3D, but it wasn't 3D. Even though it looked 3D it's just 2D with a bad angle.
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