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Why dont illegal aliens get legal?

 

03-24-10 03:27 AM
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I was watching the news and i seen a buch of hispanics and latinos marching in washington about getting legal in america. they said because there scared there going to get deported. i dont know much about law but i know that people from mexico can get legal. my question is why dont they all just go get legal why march about it?

By the way i'm NOT racist at all just to let you know. i'm just curious about this subject
I was watching the news and i seen a buch of hispanics and latinos marching in washington about getting legal in america. they said because there scared there going to get deported. i dont know much about law but i know that people from mexico can get legal. my question is why dont they all just go get legal why march about it?

By the way i'm NOT racist at all just to let you know. i'm just curious about this subject
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well, part of the problem is that it is a huge long process to get approved and there are a ton of regulations and what not that you have to follow in order to get approved.

Plus the government doesn't look highly upon people crossing the border illegally and then expecting to become citizens or anything like that.

Also, you have companies that employ these people and keep them too scared of getting in trouble to try to get citizenship.

It's a vicious circle for some people. A bad life here is much better for most of them than a life back where they came from.
well, part of the problem is that it is a huge long process to get approved and there are a ton of regulations and what not that you have to follow in order to get approved.

Plus the government doesn't look highly upon people crossing the border illegally and then expecting to become citizens or anything like that.

Also, you have companies that employ these people and keep them too scared of getting in trouble to try to get citizenship.

It's a vicious circle for some people. A bad life here is much better for most of them than a life back where they came from.
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We need a more efficient way of screening people who want to come over legally, but not give amnesty to illegals.
We need a more efficient way of screening people who want to come over legally, but not give amnesty to illegals.
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They just sound stupid. They parade around saying the govt should make illegal aliens, legal because there afraid of getting departed. Well maybe you should be marching around, putting a big public spotlight on yourself for one. For two theres right ways of going about this and theres wrong ways. This falls into wrong ways. They should have just went through the process like geeorgee said. Just sounds stupid to me.
They just sound stupid. They parade around saying the govt should make illegal aliens, legal because there afraid of getting departed. Well maybe you should be marching around, putting a big public spotlight on yourself for one. For two theres right ways of going about this and theres wrong ways. This falls into wrong ways. They should have just went through the process like geeorgee said. Just sounds stupid to me.
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But JTRL, it's not easy to "get legal" once you've illegaly crossed the border. I mean literally the first thing they did in the USA was breaking the law by illegaly getting there, do you think the government is going to be like "Sure you can 'get legal', just sign this paper".

It's sometimes easier said then done to immigrate to the USA legaly if you you happen to have little education and no work already lined up (to be clear I'm not steriotyping all Mexicans are uneducated).
But JTRL, it's not easy to "get legal" once you've illegaly crossed the border. I mean literally the first thing they did in the USA was breaking the law by illegaly getting there, do you think the government is going to be like "Sure you can 'get legal', just sign this paper".

It's sometimes easier said then done to immigrate to the USA legaly if you you happen to have little education and no work already lined up (to be clear I'm not steriotyping all Mexicans are uneducated).
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Yeah, it is really hard. Like JTRL said "It's sometimes easier said then done".
Yeah, it is really hard. Like JTRL said "It's sometimes easier said then done".
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Originally posted by septembern
Yeah, it is really hard. Like JTRL said "It's sometimes easier said then done".


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Originally posted by septembern
Yeah, it is really hard. Like JTRL said "It's sometimes easier said then done".


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Well, having some in depth conversation with a friend over this I can shed a bit of light. Particularly in the case of Mexico (as this involves my friend's family and why they haven't been able to come over), the Mexican government makes it almost impossible to get legal immigrant status because of all the regulations (they don't want people leaving) so a lot off times they find it easier to cross the border illegally and go through the process here. Some are able to get visas to come over, but many are not.

Also, with the labor market. A lot of times they come over here, work for awhile and save up the money, then go back home and have enough money to live comfortably for a long time.
Well, having some in depth conversation with a friend over this I can shed a bit of light. Particularly in the case of Mexico (as this involves my friend's family and why they haven't been able to come over), the Mexican government makes it almost impossible to get legal immigrant status because of all the regulations (they don't want people leaving) so a lot off times they find it easier to cross the border illegally and go through the process here. Some are able to get visas to come over, but many are not.

Also, with the labor market. A lot of times they come over here, work for awhile and save up the money, then go back home and have enough money to live comfortably for a long time.
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So this issue hits home for me since my mom was born in Mexico. Thankfully, she was lucky enough to successfully get a visa. As many people have said in here, it's not easy to just apply for U.S. citizenship and bam!, there it is. Especially since there is such a high volume of people that are willing to come to the U.S., it is becoming increasingly difficult.

Also, I'll have to disagree and say that rallies and marches are not "stupid" ways of presenting issues. Voices need to be heard in one way or another, and there is power in numbers. People have to stand up for what they believe in, and history has shown that marches can be very successful in getting a point across.
So this issue hits home for me since my mom was born in Mexico. Thankfully, she was lucky enough to successfully get a visa. As many people have said in here, it's not easy to just apply for U.S. citizenship and bam!, there it is. Especially since there is such a high volume of people that are willing to come to the U.S., it is becoming increasingly difficult.

Also, I'll have to disagree and say that rallies and marches are not "stupid" ways of presenting issues. Voices need to be heard in one way or another, and there is power in numbers. People have to stand up for what they believe in, and history has shown that marches can be very successful in getting a point across.
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I dont konw if you were talking about me bdfalc0n07. but i didnt say marches are ''stupid'' all i said is why they were marching about it. i dont think there stupid at all.

I dont konw if you were talking about me bdfalc0n07. but i didnt say marches are ''stupid'' all i said is why they were marching about it. i dont think there stupid at all.

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No haha I wasn't talking about you, someone else posted about how the protesters sounded stupid.

I mean, there ARE stupid ways to protest like the way some people here at my university were protesting education and budget cuts... they were doing dumb stuff like pulling fire alarms around campus and disrupting classes. They even tried to block off an interstate highway. To me, that is stupid protesting. But I don't think that was the case for the aliens protesting.
No haha I wasn't talking about you, someone else posted about how the protesters sounded stupid.

I mean, there ARE stupid ways to protest like the way some people here at my university were protesting education and budget cuts... they were doing dumb stuff like pulling fire alarms around campus and disrupting classes. They even tried to block off an interstate highway. To me, that is stupid protesting. But I don't think that was the case for the aliens protesting.
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Well, they are deported for a reason. They came into the USA through illegal means, which makes it our right to send them back. If they get in legally it could take a while and possibly more money then they could handle anyway, so they should be happy they got in, in the first place. If the USA were to just start letting tons of immigrants in legally they would be facing a serious population problem, the USA would be the next India when it comes to the population boom.
Well, they are deported for a reason. They came into the USA through illegal means, which makes it our right to send them back. If they get in legally it could take a while and possibly more money then they could handle anyway, so they should be happy they got in, in the first place. If the USA were to just start letting tons of immigrants in legally they would be facing a serious population problem, the USA would be the next India when it comes to the population boom.
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Oh ok bdfalc0n07 i see what your talking about. pulling fire alarms,disrupting classes,blocking off interstates and doing other stuff like that is to extreme i agree.
Oh ok bdfalc0n07 i see what your talking about. pulling fire alarms,disrupting classes,blocking off interstates and doing other stuff like that is to extreme i agree.
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Well, that means they would have to admit that they came here illegally, meaning that they would have to risk being deported, arrested, and or having visa removed/ banned. If they get deported, I think it also makes it harder to come back in legally. The whole process to become a naturalized citizen or even just a legal resident is a long one, and some people may not be able to wait that long (such as those who send money back to their family from the States). If they don't get caught, there is no penalty to being here illegally, whereas if they confess, there are consequences that will make life a lot harder for them.
Well, that means they would have to admit that they came here illegally, meaning that they would have to risk being deported, arrested, and or having visa removed/ banned. If they get deported, I think it also makes it harder to come back in legally. The whole process to become a naturalized citizen or even just a legal resident is a long one, and some people may not be able to wait that long (such as those who send money back to their family from the States). If they don't get caught, there is no penalty to being here illegally, whereas if they confess, there are consequences that will make life a lot harder for them.
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Simple, because if they try to get legal people wil discover they are illegal(peoplle that hate illegals) and just run them out of the country.
Simple, because if they try to get legal people wil discover they are illegal(peoplle that hate illegals) and just run them out of the country.
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