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12-12-18 01:52 PM
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zanderlex : Good point. If you want to, we can do a weighted score. 

Something like...

(# of games won / number of games played) x (10 + number of games won)

So say Lex plays 1 game and wins. He would get a score of 11: (1/1)x(10+1)

M0ss plays 10 games and wins 8. He would get a score of 14.4: (8/10)x(10+8)

Zander plays 15 games and only wins 4. He would get a score of 3.7: (4/15)x(10+4)

Igor play 20 games and wins every one of them. He would get a score of 30: (20/20)x(10+20)

But Min plays 23 games and wins 21. He would get a score of 28.3:  (21/23)x(10+21)

You get a better score for your win percentage AND the number of games you win. Just a thought, I would be happy to do up the spreadsheet for it. 
zanderlex : Good point. If you want to, we can do a weighted score. 

Something like...

(# of games won / number of games played) x (10 + number of games won)

So say Lex plays 1 game and wins. He would get a score of 11: (1/1)x(10+1)

M0ss plays 10 games and wins 8. He would get a score of 14.4: (8/10)x(10+8)

Zander plays 15 games and only wins 4. He would get a score of 3.7: (4/15)x(10+4)

Igor play 20 games and wins every one of them. He would get a score of 30: (20/20)x(10+20)

But Min plays 23 games and wins 21. He would get a score of 28.3:  (21/23)x(10+21)

You get a better score for your win percentage AND the number of games you win. Just a thought, I would be happy to do up the spreadsheet for it. 
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12-12-18 02:09 PM
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Light Knight : This system sounds good.
Light Knight : This system sounds good.
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Minuano : Brackets are cool. But...

A. Bracket limits number of games, that's why the bracket starts after something similar to a "season" where lots of games can take place.

B. Brackets only prove who wins and who gets 2nd, still need consolation rounds to figure out all the othet places.


Once we reach week 3 its a standard bracket and also allows for the best players to get a break.

Like in baseball, the teams that win the division don't have to play in an extra round.
Minuano : Brackets are cool. But...

A. Bracket limits number of games, that's why the bracket starts after something similar to a "season" where lots of games can take place.

B. Brackets only prove who wins and who gets 2nd, still need consolation rounds to figure out all the othet places.


Once we reach week 3 its a standard bracket and also allows for the best players to get a break.

Like in baseball, the teams that win the division don't have to play in an extra round.
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But brackets are far more streamlined! And it determines 4 of the 9 places far more easily, especially if you do a loser's bracket. Though admittedly everything below 4th gets a little muddled. Tie breakers for the rest would probably do wonders, though the odd number of people makes things a little awkward. It's otherwise just... a lot easier to run.
But brackets are far more streamlined! And it determines 4 of the 9 places far more easily, especially if you do a loser's bracket. Though admittedly everything below 4th gets a little muddled. Tie breakers for the rest would probably do wonders, though the odd number of people makes things a little awkward. It's otherwise just... a lot easier to run.
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12-12-18 04:43 PM
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GaminSol: With brackets, how would the 9th person be involved?

How does this sound?

1 week season with a bunch of games. Then the 2 players with the lowest score compete for the 8th spot?

https://twitter.com/zanderlex/status/1072985111203852288
GaminSol: With brackets, how would the 9th person be involved?

How does this sound?

1 week season with a bunch of games. Then the 2 players with the lowest score compete for the 8th spot?

https://twitter.com/zanderlex/status/1072985111203852288
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As I said before when I brought up the brackets, ideally we can work with a number that belongs in the 2^x family in terms of participants. Given that we've found so many in a short period of time I imagine there would be little issue waiting for another 7 members to join.

Your compromise isn't a horrible idea, I just don't see the need to rush it. Let's just see if there's more members who are willing to join.
As I said before when I brought up the brackets, ideally we can work with a number that belongs in the 2^x family in terms of participants. Given that we've found so many in a short period of time I imagine there would be little issue waiting for another 7 members to join.

Your compromise isn't a horrible idea, I just don't see the need to rush it. Let's just see if there's more members who are willing to join.
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Minuano : That's one reason why the round would start after the weekend, give a few extra days.

Also I'm throwing around another idea.

Locked character choices.

For example, before the tournament starts, each player has to choose 5-10 characters and they can only play as those characters.

But also in each round, they can't use the same character in more than one game.
Minuano : That's one reason why the round would start after the weekend, give a few extra days.

Also I'm throwing around another idea.

Locked character choices.

For example, before the tournament starts, each player has to choose 5-10 characters and they can only play as those characters.

But also in each round, they can't use the same character in more than one game.
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12-12-18 08:55 PM
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zanderlex : I would really, really, want to be able to play whatever character I'd like the whole time.
zanderlex : I would really, really, want to be able to play whatever character I'd like the whole time.
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I got some questions other than the character deal. How would levels work out? Some people like some levels than others or can have an advantage with some, unless you want just battlefield or omega? Are items allowed? Are final smash acceptable? I’m just wondering since I was also thinking about a tournament but with a different prize (not atm since you put yours up. Another reason is everything needs to be fair or balanced to say the least.) 
As for the character deal... what if some people are only good with one player? 
I got some questions other than the character deal. How would levels work out? Some people like some levels than others or can have an advantage with some, unless you want just battlefield or omega? Are items allowed? Are final smash acceptable? I’m just wondering since I was also thinking about a tournament but with a different prize (not atm since you put yours up. Another reason is everything needs to be fair or balanced to say the least.) 
As for the character deal... what if some people are only good with one player? 
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I think it would make the tourney more enjoyable if we were able to choose whichever characters we like whenever. I don't see any harm in doing so. 
I think it would make the tourney more enjoyable if we were able to choose whichever characters we like whenever. I don't see any harm in doing so. 
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aint no way ill let yoshi get restricted from being chosen, as he is my main
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yeah sign me up

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I'm still confused about the scoring... I don't wanna commit to signup until I get it. Could someone dumb it down for me? I also think limiting characters isn't that great an idea, especially with this game since it seems to be relatively balanced.
I'm still confused about the scoring... I don't wanna commit to signup until I get it. Could someone dumb it down for me? I also think limiting characters isn't that great an idea, especially with this game since it seems to be relatively balanced.
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m0ssb3rg935: You mean the one proposed?
It's just a combinations of your win/loss ratio plus how many games you won in all.
 
A ratio works like this. Games Won / Played. So if it's 1, that means you won 100% of the games, if it's .5,  you've won 50%, etc. It's just like calculating a percentage. But Zander though it wouldn't be fair to use just a ratio, because someone could play and win only 1 game and get a 100% win percentage. Meanwhile, someone else could play 30 games and win 29 and get a 97% win percentage.
 
So what I've done is taken the win/loss ration and multiplied it by your total games won (+10 to add a little more weight). Now your score is a combination of your win ratio AND how many total games you have won. So the person who won 29 out of 30 games would beat the person who one 1 out of 1 games.
m0ssb3rg935: You mean the one proposed?
It's just a combinations of your win/loss ratio plus how many games you won in all.
 
A ratio works like this. Games Won / Played. So if it's 1, that means you won 100% of the games, if it's .5,  you've won 50%, etc. It's just like calculating a percentage. But Zander though it wouldn't be fair to use just a ratio, because someone could play and win only 1 game and get a 100% win percentage. Meanwhile, someone else could play 30 games and win 29 and get a 97% win percentage.
 
So what I've done is taken the win/loss ration and multiplied it by your total games won (+10 to add a little more weight). Now your score is a combination of your win ratio AND how many total games you have won. So the person who won 29 out of 30 games would beat the person who one 1 out of 1 games.
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Updated ideas: No character restrictions, each fight, the othet user picks the stage, everything in a fight is allowed.

KillerLatias : If Yoshi was restricted it would have been you who restricted him.
Updated ideas: No character restrictions, each fight, the othet user picks the stage, everything in a fight is allowed.

KillerLatias : If Yoshi was restricted it would have been you who restricted him.
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when does this event start if i may ask?
when does this event start if i may ask?
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KillerLatias : It was supposed to start on the 17th.
KillerLatias : It was supposed to start on the 17th.
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Well if this hasn't begun yet, and seeing as I've been undergoing intense training to become a competent, erm, "smasher", I'd like to give this a go. Besides, I need more compadres on the Switch to hunt monsters and cyborg zombies with.
Well if this hasn't begun yet, and seeing as I've been undergoing intense training to become a competent, erm, "smasher", I'd like to give this a go. Besides, I need more compadres on the Switch to hunt monsters and cyborg zombies with.
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Mecha Leo : It was supposed to start but didn't start so now we're waiting to start.

With you and Yoshi, that puts us at 11 users. The only options that we have are wait and see if 5 more users will join and have a 4 round tournament or just use a weird odd number of players and do a season followed by an elimination round a d then a 3 round tournament.

If nobody else joins soon, probably would work on option B matchups around New Years. Other than that, just a lot of debating on rules and options. Plus I still have to worry about figuring out what the prizes are going to be because they would be different based on how many players there are, the format, and how many games are played.
Mecha Leo : It was supposed to start but didn't start so now we're waiting to start.

With you and Yoshi, that puts us at 11 users. The only options that we have are wait and see if 5 more users will join and have a 4 round tournament or just use a weird odd number of players and do a season followed by an elimination round a d then a 3 round tournament.

If nobody else joins soon, probably would work on option B matchups around New Years. Other than that, just a lot of debating on rules and options. Plus I still have to worry about figuring out what the prizes are going to be because they would be different based on how many players there are, the format, and how many games are played.
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